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Hello,
Have been reading this forum for some time now. Have learned some does and don't. Have a question, what is the best thing a person can use for rail lube? I know I will catch it from some, Just received a Barnett Quad 4 for X-mas. First X-Bow. Thank's for the help and remember i'm new to this.;)

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Barnett Lubewax
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Barnett Lubewax is specifically formulated to prolong the life of bowstrings. It is also used for lubricating the rails of the crossbow to reduce friction and increase velocity.

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Thank you ,
There was a small tube sent with the X-bow. Didn't want to shoot it with out knowing. Hear people talking about a tube of "Rail Lube".

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Retiredarmy: Welcome to the forum!

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Thank you, hope to pick the brains of ya'll and learn this X-Bow thing with all fingers, hands, arms ect.. attached.

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Welcome to the forum Retiredarm! Have fun too!

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welcome to the forum. have fun with your new toy.:)

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Welcome to the forum,I shoot a Quad 400 also.:)

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Retiredarmy, welcome to the forum. i am retired Army also. Be sure to wax the string seizing very often,about every 10 shots. Take the bow down once inawhile and really coat the cables with wax where they cross inthe slot. Some of the seizing can only be waxed when the bow is cocked. The Quad 400 is a very powerful crossbow. Wish you well with your new crossbow.

Oops,wax the track about every 5 shots.

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Had fun for 20 years doing it. Now work for the state of Tn. if I can do it another 20 will call it quits for good. Wanted to try X-bow hunting for turkey, sure it will also be used for deer. Thank's in advance to everyone for help and hints they give. Those of you shooting Barnett, are there any mayjor problems I should look for? Quad 4oo, barnett scope.....

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Make sure you use the rail lube that came with it, or any brand will work. If not you will pay for that rail lube over again in what you pay for putting a new serving on from not using the lube! Its good stuff, make sure you use it, I would say I use it about every thirty or so shots, I do not count but That would be my guess on how much it is used.

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Shot it today for the first time. Used what came with it. The stuff Rebel Hog mentioned. Like you, didn't count but don't think it can be over lubed? Looking for good target ideas???

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if you do not want to make your own, wich if you do a serch theres a couple of threads on here about targets get yourself a good bag target Cabellas sells on that is basically the same target as the Morelle Eternity target which is a good one, and Dan speaks of a yellow target he uses for broadheads that is working well maybe he will chime in and tell which one it is I forgot, I have been using the block target for crossbows and would not buy another one..

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sounds good, tried a search came up with "0" would be interested in knowing how to make own just to do it...

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I've been using the MacKenzie[sp?] layered foam which are bright orange and have cables on the corners which you can reposition twice each to tighten them up. I got them for both type heads, but have recently gotten a Morrell Eternity bag target which I really like for field tips. To make your own, can't help ya, think you start w/ a gazillion Mal-Wart bags, lol. Dan Miller sells a pair of arrow pulling pliers that are the best $11.00 I've spent, pic enclosed. His phone [only] is [740] 483-2312 if any of you new guys are interested.

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I have the Block target and as time goes by I like it more, being shot at alot must be helping it. The one handed arrow removal is a total lie though. I bought the block cause the few bag targets I tried my arrows went through them, or at least enough to ruin the vanes. I here some say hanging a bag target helps alot too. As Dan said the home made version starts out with alot of wal-mart bags and some scrap cloths and you pack it in as tight as you can into a burlap bag and you are good to go. Never done it, but thats what they say. I think DNK can offer more details on the home made version stuff.

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well sound's like the Block or the Yellow jacket is the way to go. Sure like the idea of those pliers.Wonder if he would ship a set to TN?

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Retiredarmy: Dan runs/owns Horizontal Archery, Sardis, Oh. I'm sure he ships anywhere in the USA. He's also the USA warranty rep for Excal and a heck of a knowlegable and nice guy.

I'm going off of memory here, which can be dangerous these days, lol, but if I'm not mistaken, B-netts need heavier than normal arrows, like in the 440's or above, 22" long, and I think they recommend 125 gr b-heads, prolly to get the FOC up some on the heavy arrows. Maybe some of the other guys that shoot them can tell you how they tweak theirs.

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Pretty good memory, the book recommends 450 total grains including TIP.
Am assuming that is what came with it. They are not marked, but so far so good....

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Hey Bill retiredarmy, I vist my wifes kin in Nashville and Dunlap. How far is that from Chapmansboro?

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Yup Dan Miller will ship the arrow pliers. Take 2 hundred lb. burlap /gunny sacks put one inside the other and fill up with old worn out clothing and plastic bags bubble paks. Shake it down good and sew both bags together at top. Don't leave metal buttons or zippers in clothing. Now if you don't cotton to all that work, just buy a yellerjacket by Morrel and shoot field pts. I use a 3-D deer target fer B'Heads but the Mckenzie Aim-right bear makes a better target.

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I have a Block target and a Block 4X4 and I find the later much better. The former leave tons of foam slivers all over the place. It is so much easier to remove arrows from a foam target if you spray the arrows with silicone or pam.
Bag targets last much longer if you hang it and once the arrows go in noticeably deeper just flip it face down and jump on it a whole bunch of times and its back to normal. I own an automotive shop and a very large amount of garbage is plastic wrapping or plastic bags. Stuff a burlap or feed bag really tight with the material (cloth as smoke suggested works well too) and tie it up and then put it in another bag and tie it up tight. Works really well but like bag targets you have to the same dance on it when the arrows start going too deep. I hope this helps! Do not spray the arrows when using bag targets.

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Well, since we drifted into targets here, lol, I shot out a Block in no time w/ Emax. Very few b-heads btw. I'm using McKenzie now for b-heads and the Morrell for field points like I posted earlier. Was plain bull-headed about getting a bag target and wouldn't have this one, except local bow monkey was tired of looking at it and let me have it for $30, lol. The absolute premier xbow target is a goofy looking black octagon multi faceted thing called the Rhinehart 18-1. I have the honor of returning the only one they ever got back, as it will not take GT LII's. It will take other carbons and all aluminums, but DO NOT shoot Gt's into it, it's easier to get last years taxes back than pull them. And yes, I tried every remedy known to man to get those arrows not to melt the foam and weld themselves in it, I really liked that target, just not enough to switch to aluminums. I also went thru every thing that my local Mal-Wart had to offer, lol. As it stands right now, Dnk has me about $200 deeper in xbows, lol. ASD, Az EZ fletcher, Chrony, Morrell Eternity, ect. Thanks Don!! [really]

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Thanks fellas, looks like the Yellow Jacket will be the way to go!!

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Just a word of warning, if that's the one w/ Bumble Bees on it, check and make sure carbons don't weld themselves in it. If you don't use carbons, no problem. I don't know of a self healing type foam [not layered like Block and my McKenzies] that won't weld carbons. I've read about some in 3-D targets that don't, even shot them on 3-D course but can't remember the name of mfgr. My bow monkey had the Bees thing and said something about me not wanting to shoot carbons at it. It may not just be the carbon matl, but the combo of it and real high speed, which I know you got w/ Quad.

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Dan, have you ever used silcone on your arrows before shooting into foam?

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Yes, and alot more stuff, everything I read about and some I thought up. I'm probably a little paranoid about this, as when I had 4 GT's in the Rhinehart, it was all my buddy and I could do to get them out. Rhinehart told me there was nothing that would prevent it, due to the speed of Emax [pre Phoenix days]. On the one 3-D shoot I went to, Ivory soap worked on some of the trargets, but still managed to just twist a shaft off right at the face of target. May have to go alum if I get into 3-D.

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I wonder how difficult the arrows out of a stryker are going to be like?