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10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 02:51 PM

2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Hereis the thread with pictures of the new bow.

http://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=338&posts=3&start=1

shewe 12-11-2006 02:55 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
wow....looks nice!:)

awshucks 12-11-2006 04:14 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Randy: Nice looking bow! Congrats! Is this the only addition or do you have more coming? What's the weight, if you can discuss features at this point? Meaning overall rather than lbs pull.

Dnk 12-11-2006 06:04 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Looks hot and kinda strikerish! That is not meant to be offencive. Looks like a long stroke. Any one know how long the stroke is?

Bigg~BirddVA 12-11-2006 06:19 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Great, more money I'll have to spend.

10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 06:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: awshucks

Randy: Nice looking bow! Congrats! Is this the only addition or do you have more coming? What's the weight, if you can discuss features at this point? Meaning overall rather than lbs pull.
This will certainly not be the only addition to the line. There will be a couple more. One more completely new and a couple more that get serious overhauls.

10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 06:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dnk

Looks hot and kinda strikerish! That is not meant to be offencive. Looks like a long stroke. Any one know how long the stroke is?
No offense taken. We have been working on this bad boy for a couple of years. Just now got it where we wanted it.
Powerstroke is not as long as it looks. Just over 13.25 if memory serves me. Sorry, I'm at home and don't have the specs on me.
It looks longer because it is so narrow. Only 17.5 when cocked.

10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 06:34 PM

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Here is a couple pics.

Dnk 12-11-2006 06:39 PM

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I need another xbow like a hole in the head!

10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 06:40 PM

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Well, that didn't work.
Sorry

Dnk 12-11-2006 06:43 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Randy please don't!

10ptCrossbow 12-11-2006 06:43 PM

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One more time



Yeah, the crowd goes wild. I posted a picture!:D



htoler 12-12-2006 07:15 AM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Will have to go check one out when they hit the proshops..
looking at it it still looks a lot like the proelite other than the footstirrup. to me anyway..

10ptCrossbow 12-13-2006 09:29 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Henry,
The back half is basically the same, but that front end is new and different in every respect. Shoots like a dream!

htoler 12-14-2006 06:05 AM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
well you know I will check it out as soon as A proshop close to me can get one in stock..

10ptCrossbow 12-15-2006 12:06 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
This should answer some questions.

http://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/images/pdfs/Phantom.pdf

Randy

Hotburn76 12-15-2006 04:00 PM

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That sure looks nice. I like that a CB maker is starting to play with some bigger/egg shapedcams too! Seems like most of them have just stayed with plain, small, round ones. Looks nice! How much is that going to set back a wallet?

htoler 12-15-2006 04:27 PM

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Randy

how about some info on that new Pro 40 multi dot scope???

htoler 12-15-2006 04:32 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
and how much more accurate is this Phantom than the Proelite I have now??

10ptCrossbow 12-15-2006 07:18 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 

ORIGINAL: htoler

Randy

how about some info on that new Pro 40 multi dot scope???
The Pro View is better.
The Pro 40 is a 2 color 3 dot scope.

10ptCrossbow 12-15-2006 07:19 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 

ORIGINAL: htoler

and how much more accurate is this Phantom than the Proelite I have now??
It will cut your groups in about half. Less noise and less shock

awshucks 12-16-2006 07:30 AM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
I see it'd being offered as a package deal only. Darn bean counters, lol.

htoler 12-16-2006 07:51 AM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
so then what your telling me I would not be able to shoot groups unless I wanted to replace arrows.. lol

Bigg~BirddVA 12-18-2006 06:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: awshucks

I see it'd being offered as a package deal only. Darn bean counters, lol.
That's going to be my biggest reason not to get one. I only need xbow and scope. Somebody there needs to rethink. They're losing sales that way.

Hotburn76 12-18-2006 09:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Hotburn76

Looks nice! How much is that going to set back a wallet?

Randy, Was this Missed, Avoided, Over looked, or not known yet?



10ptCrossbow 12-18-2006 09:36 AM

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Depending on the scope and if you want an Acudraw or Acudraw50 it will range from $1849-$1999 for the entire package.


awshucks 12-18-2006 01:32 PM

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Good bye Cadillac, Hello Mercedes!!

RWK 12-18-2006 01:38 PM

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!0 point, i see at that price your company do'nt want to make to many. You guys are nuts. Rich

Dnk 12-18-2006 02:36 PM

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Can some one lend me a thousand or two? Please?;) Of course thats probably over $2,500.00 in Canada. My Hoyt Ultra Tech was expensive at a bit less than $1,000.00 Canadian. Randy, what is the social profile of a buyer of one of these bows. They have to be making well over $100,000 per annum. I know you know Randy!

Bigg~BirddVA 12-18-2006 03:26 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 

ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow

Depending on the scope and if you want an Acudraw or Acudraw50 it will range from $1849-$1999 for the entire package.

Wow they did copy the Stryker! On the $$$ aspect that is. Think I'll wait for another year and get an Ebay deal.

Dnk 12-18-2006 03:54 PM

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Randy, please don't take the ribbing to heart. I'm sure there are lots of guys that have lots of money to spend on ultra-high end stuff as Bow Tech also believes. Heck if some one spends a hundred thousand bucks on a car why not? I've see it tons of times. This forum just has poe folk that get taken aback when we see this. I've been vacillating on what "last" rifle to buy and some of them are a few thousand. So who am I to say that your price is too high?:eek:

Hotburn76 12-18-2006 04:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow


ORIGINAL: htoler

and how much more accurate is this Phantom than the Proelite I have now??
It will cut your groups in about half. Less noise and less shock
Well don't take offense to this, but two things I can think of on this new CB. One, that is already being rode pretty hard is the price! That is pretty steep! I guess I will never be getting one, The whole package only deal is also a mistake in my book, the CB should be able to be sold separately from the accessories. Two, is the group size thing. People have posted that the pro-elite was a nock buster. How can you cut a nock busters group size down by half? Just don't make sense to me. Either the pro-elite is not a nock buster, or the new CB is not going to cut the groups in half, which one is it? When I say my supermax is a nock buster, it is! If I buy a half dozen arrows and shoot for a for a while in the afternoon, by the time I am done, I will have a bunch of bad nocks, and maybe a few completely split arrows! I feel saying cutting your groups down by half is like saying all others by ten point are only half as accurate as this, does that makes sense, or am I talking in circles?

RWK 12-18-2006 05:14 PM

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10point, I hope some one hears what the customer is saying, to many dollars buy a hole bunch. Rich

10ptCrossbow 12-18-2006 09:15 PM

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DNK,
What you are saying is somewhat true. Compared to the Phantom, the others are not very accurate. The gained accuracy comes with how the new design on the limb works. there is so little shock that it makes the bow more accurate. As for comparing to bowtech, our package comes with more and better stuff, so you aren't really comparing apples to apples.
As for being a bow only and not a package, our top bow is always a package. However, you wil be able to buy the PRo Elite as a bow only this year and it will shoot about 330fps this year, so that would certainly be an option.
I don't take the ribbing to heart. I understand where you are coming from

RWK,
I absolutley hear what you are saying. I agree, 2 grand is a lot of cash. That is why we make bows and packages from $400 up. The Titan pkg at $499 got lighter, quieter, better looking and will get a better trigger as well this year.
We have a very good $1000 package this year that we did not have last year. We try and make a good bow in most price ranges from $400 up.
Randy

Dnk 12-18-2006 10:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow
We try and make a good bow in most price ranges from $400 up.
Randy
That is very true Randy.:)

Bigg~BirddVA 12-19-2006 01:20 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 

ORIGINAL: 10ptCrossbow
We have a very good $1000 package this year that we did not have last year. We try and make a good bow in most price ranges from $400 up.
Randy
The packages are great if you're starting out but what about the guy who has several xbows and accessories and just wants to upgrade to the latest xbow? I've got 5 xbows, 4 cases and a 5 gal bucket of bolts, extra scopes, rings and God knows what else. What I don't need is a package deal with duplicates of things I already have. Shame Tenpoint customers can't just upgrade their bow/scope without it becoming a major expense.

RWK 12-19-2006 02:47 PM

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Guys can you picture going home and say honey i need a couple of grand to buy a crossbow, you might see your name in the obits. Rich

Dnk 12-19-2006 03:16 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Ok guys don't take offence but we have to be fair. This bow is not marketed toward us directly. Like a General Motors product you can buy an elcheapo sub compact or a Cadi SUV but we don't bash that. I am not a Ten Point guy and you all know that. Some of us here including myself have no problem buying a scope for several hundred dollars and a rifle for almost as much, rings and bases for a couple of hundred. My 300 WSM as it sits is over two grand and so what? Guys we are bordering on bashing here and I think we should lay off and start picking on Randy himself! Come on Randy show us a picture of yourself!

htoler 12-19-2006 08:05 PM

RE: 2007 TenPoint Phantom
 
Well I for one am going to go check out the Phantom as well as the new ProElite, and if it is half the Crossbow Randy says it is even though My proElite is still basically new I may have to find a way to get one, even if I have to save for a few months to do so,, I do know this I would much rather by A Phantom made by a proven crossbow as to buying a Stryker from a company that just took up making crossbows,
Also the is a very shap looking Feature rich crossbow. IMO
And if Excalibur comes out with some new one you can bet I will check them out also

Doegirl75 12-20-2006 12:45 AM

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I get ribbed on some local Ohio hunting forums for my "$$$TenPoint Crossbow$$$". It's as if I was foolish for spending so much jack on a single crossbow. The only thing I can think of that makes those guys think that is that they are Jealous. That's exactly what's happening here with the Phantom. Most of us KNOW (me included), that this bow is out of our league price wise. All of the sudden now the bow is overpriced and TenPoint is guilty of catering to BMW driving country club type snobs.


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