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mooseman44 10-30-2006 06:31 PM

New Excalibur Phoenix
 
I got a new Phoenix yesterday. If you didn't see my other post about how well it shot, in short I shot arobinhood at 20 yards freehand while still at the dealer's setting the xbow up. Anyway, the string isn't exactly flemish (at least not the flemish that I'm used to as a longbow shooter). How do you shorten the strings that aren't flemish (I've taken about 30 shots)? I've tried untwisting and it doesn't move. Currently the xbow is braced so that the string is linedup with the second line on the deck. Is this okay? What will I gain from getting the brace height closer to the first line? Did I mention that this is an awesome weapon?!!

Dnk 10-30-2006 06:44 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
Congratulations on you're new bow. You handle all the strings the same, just twist to shorten. Anywhere between the lines is good but if you are want to be like some people here wait until the string stops stretching and then experiment with different positions between the lines. Some where between the two lines will yeild the most accuracy. I usually try to get it real close to the forward line to give me the lowest brace height. Donno if there is a difference in speed if you give it the min brace height but I can only imagine you do get a tiny bit of speed from a low brace height.
They are all awsome bows!

mooseman44 10-30-2006 07:26 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
I think it is the excel string that comes with the bow. It is definitely endless loop. With that in mind, am I correct in assuming that you won't gain much by trying to "untwist" them? Am I also correct in assuming that you can't "untwist" these strings so much that they will come apart like a flemish string where the twists are what actually hold the string together? Thanks.

Dnk 10-30-2006 08:12 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
You twist them to shorten the string and and increase the brace height. You will not damage anything by untwisting. Just stay between the lines. The flemish string looks like Mathew's Zebra string, also made of two strings of different colours.

awshucks 10-30-2006 08:31 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
Congrats on the Phoenix, I have 3 Excals but that's my "go to" bow. I'm using the same Excal string and have gone from 357 gr. stock Excal GT's to brass inserts for 431 gr. The Excel costs a few fps that you don't need anyhow, lol, and you can figure 1 fps for every 5 gr in increased arrow weight. Rumor has it that most Excals do their best when the brace height is set at 1 1/4" above where the rail meets the riser. One of advantage of the Excel is that it doesn't stretch much. You already got good advice on twists. Good Luck!!

shewe 10-30-2006 09:22 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
gratz on your new bow.....love those excals:)

smokepolehall 10-31-2006 04:20 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
Horray Horray u have gotten the best, so now u can rest! Congrats all info given prior to my post is good stuff by couple of great Excal folks, so enjoy shooting it!:D

Taureaunoir 10-31-2006 11:04 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
DNK,being in Ontario,do you think the phoenix is fast enough for moose at 30 yards and any idea on the K.E ?
Taureau noir

awshucks 10-31-2006 11:12 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 

ORIGINAL: Taureaunoir

DNK,being in Ontario,do you think the phoenix is fast enough for moose at 30 yards and any idea on the K.E ?
Taureau noir
Dnk is busy w/ Squillkilla's family tree, but until he checks in, Bill T. co-owner of Excal took at least two moose w/ a Vixen. I'm confident enough in mine to bear hunt w/ I'm leaving my Emax sit at home. My range on bear is 17 yds. Good Luck!

Edited: Forgot the k.e. I'm getting 80 ft lbs of ke w/ Phoenix[431 gr at 290 fps]

Dnk 10-31-2006 11:22 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
I don't hunt moose in Ontario but I would have no problems wacking a moose with my Vixen using cut on contact BHs. I'd probably feel more comfortable at a closer range but with a good blade like Magnus Stingers you'd get deep enough. Don't expect a pass-through. Of course a Phoenix is a bit more in the power department. Would I take a shot at 30 yards.... its border line but I think when the moment of truth came I would say no, at 20 yards and only if the perfect shot presented itself. But you never know!

Taureaunoir 10-31-2006 11:29 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
DnK ,thank for the fast answer.I've been hunting 46 years with a bow.
7 Year ago had hearth valves replace ,last summer had a CVA now have a hard time shooting my pow over 55# so looking for a crossbow ,was to go with excalibur EXOCET ,its 200# pressure so will i be able to play with it many shots or does the Phoenix be my best bet?
Taureau noir

htoler 10-31-2006 11:33 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
The Phoenix has plenty of power for hunting moose elk deer hog bear or whatever you may wish to hut , you will beshooting arrows at around 300 fps with over 70 fp of kenetic energy.. plenty of power

htoler 10-31-2006 11:44 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
I had a Phoenix before I got the Exocet and this is just my opinion but I think the Phoenix is the best of the line of the Excaliburs.. it has plenty of powe and speed.. and it is amazing how much easier it is to cock than the Exocet.. just mu thoughts..

Taureaunoir 10-31-2006 11:50 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
Thank, I need power,yes ,but need it easy to cock it .So the Phoenix might be the solution
Taureau noir

Dnk 10-31-2006 11:52 AM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
I agree with Henry, the Phoenix is probably the best bet for you with draw weight, power and weight considered.

smokepolehall 10-31-2006 12:21 PM

RE: New Excalibur Phoenix
 
Phoenix lineup, GT's lite weights 72KE, 2213's 75KE, 2216's 77KE and 2219's 79KE. Ain't no doubt i would snuff a full Bull Moose at 30 yds. with mine![:-]


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