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Jiffy Lube or Turtle Wax?
First off, this is an xbow generic post. I'm not promoting/demoting any xbows. Fair enough?
As ya'll know these xbows have been around since like 400 A.D. Lately there have been numerous posts on wax and lubes, ect. I'm kinda curious what the xbower that whacked Richard the Lion-Hearted in about 1200 something or other used on his string/rails. Ya'll know no matter what xbow ya'll use, you got a string rubbing on a rail, been that way for a couple thousand years. It boggles my mind that there are so many different requirements these days w/ these different yet same xbows. One says wax, don't lube, another yet says lube don't wax ect. ect. Yet another says do both. Do ya'll really think there is any real reason for all these different requirements on basically the same xbows? What do you think would happen if a guy took a brand new co "A" bow out and waxed his string when the mfgr said not to, use rail lube? Or co. "B" this guy didn't wax the string like mfgr instructed but used rail lube? Stop and think a second now, these things been flinging arrows for a long long time. Frankly, I don't buy into all of this, been waxing strings/servings for a long time on alot of different xbows and have never gummed up a trigger or experienced any of the other horror stories out there. Seems to me snot would work if it didn't dry out so quick, lol. Just curious what ya'll think personally, pretty well know what your mfgr advises, so lets try and keep this generic, lol. |
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Well I know alot of people use string wax on there serving. When I said alot of people use it wrong, maybe I should have said alot of Horton guys use it wrong. Horton said on the stick of wax that I used to have if you put it on the serving, wax could come off and get into the trigger mech and cause a problem. I don't know why but they think it does. Maybe Horton has smaller parts in there that could gum up on a Horton, but not on a Excal, maybe Excal has more room in there and its not a problem. It also may get back to if the wax is put on right. Like the way you and don spoke of, thin layer, work it in etc, etc, ect... I have seen people put it on and it looks like you could take the string off and wax up a couple pair of skis for the slopes. Horton knows that people always think more is better, and with there bows alot of wax caked on by an idiot can cause a problem. Its like gun oil, in says right on the can, rub a thin film on and wipe it off, How many times have I or you seen an idiot put drops of oil, or take a spray can and shoot it up. Now down south that may be OK, but up here in late winter alot of oil on a trigger can cause it to freeze up. I think wax would only help the serving life if put on correct, but alot of guys would cake it on, then not have the trigger work, only to piss and moan that the bow is junk. Like you say, one maker says no, one says yes, it don't make sense right? Horton has made bows for a long time, I trust that if they say no wax on serving they must do it for a reason. I doubt they do it cause they don't like selling wax. It may be because of trigger design and the wax can cause a problem for only there bow, may be because they know people will use to much and cake up the trigger. Heck it could be because they are in the works with a rail lube company guy and are making money hand over fist on it! Who knows and who cares. It would be like me wanting to shoot light weight arrows on my Horton, busting them limbs and saying lighter arrows work on other bows so they must work on mine, but they don't, its the way my bow is made. Here is a cut from Horton's web page, its small so sorry, but the part that says no wax on serving is enlarged. I can not believe that they do it with out reason.
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I think you have a point there Dan. Next time I'm at Bass Pros I will try the liquid stuff with teflon in it. It makes more sense to me that it would work. For years I used bees wax on my bow with no real problems but then again I didn't shoot my xbow as much as I have in the past five years or more. I suppose lots of different lubes would work but with different frequencies of application. Food for thought and a good one Dan!
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Dan, Chicken Fat or animal fat!
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If there is a Lube with a higher content of Teflon like this on the market, please show me?
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You have to compare particulate size as well as the carrier Reb.
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ORIGINAL: Dnk You have to compare particulate size as well as the carrier Reb. Now if petroleum base lubes eat up bow strings, is another question. |
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Can deers smell those teflon lubes and those fats. U bet they can![:o]
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ORIGINAL: smokepolehall Can deers smell those teflon lubes and those fats. U bet they can![:o] |
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Well you se being the one that started this diatribe I was interested in using a GUN lube that smells like pine or spruce or something. This oil seems to have the same densities as the others but lacks the smell. Will the TEFLON really make that much a difference at 30 yards or less?
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ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog ORIGINAL: smokepolehall Can deers smell those teflon lubes and those fats. U bet they can![:o] |
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If u do like i do hunt, with the wind coming to me. Seldom do i have a deer come in from an area that they r downwind of me. Spect a big trophy Buck can smell it downwind and leave before u ever know he has been there.
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ORIGINAL: smokepolehall If u do like i do hunt, with the wind coming to me. Seldom do i have a deer come in from an area that they r downwind of me. Spect a big trophy Buck can smell it downwind and leave before u ever know he has been there. Again Smoke, do you flush all the lube from your rifles and shotguns before going into the woods? |
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ORIGINAL: roman Well you se being the one that started this diatribe I was interested in using a GUN lube that smells like pine or spruce or something. This oil seems to have the same densities as the others but lacks the smell. Will the TEFLON really make that much a difference at 30 yards or less? [align=center] [/align]Synthetic X-Treme Food Grade Grease (GXC) (NLGI #2 High Temperature EP) AMSOIL X-Treme Synthetic Food Grade Grease is an ultra-premium aluminum complex grease designed for high levels of protection in food service and pharmaceutical industry equipment. USDA H-1 rated for incidental contact with food. |
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Actually if i take my rifle it is without any lube or oil on it or in it. I have used grafite. I don't hunt in any moisture conditions, but after the season i do use oil and lube on it and put it up. Now in the past when i was younger i did use oil and lube during season. Most the the time i still hunted and shot my deer like that. Now i am old and fat and crippled and lose my balance to easy and don't still hunt anymore.[&o]
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ORIGINAL: smokepolehall Actually if i take my rifle it is without any lube or oil on it or in it. I have used grafite. I don't hunt in any moisture conditions, but after the season i do use oil and lube on it and put it up. Now in the past when i was younger i did use oil and lube during season. Most the the time i still hunted and shot my deer like that. Now i am old and fat and crippled and lose my balance to easy and don't still hunt anymore.[&o] Hey smoke, I'm usally around New Port, Tenn. and Sevierville, Tenn.every year! How far is that from you? |
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Spect about 300 miles from here, i live 3 1/2 miles from the Ms. river![:o]
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ORIGINAL: smokepolehall Spect about 300 miles from here, i live 3 1/2 miles from the Ms. river![:o] |
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Well I think Dan was trying to make light of it and he is right. If it works for your bow then you should keep it up and keep killing deer. If you don't then thats fine too. I would hate to see this post go from a rail lube, to a scent post, thats just getting in to deep! I just try to always do what my directions say and that may be good for my bow, maybe not. Like I said, Horton may just do it cause old man Bernard's dad told him not to and it just stuck, don't know. But to shed some light on it and take a different look at it I was in the bathroom today and was all done and washed my hands and such and opened up the medicine cabinet and was wondering if it would work. Its all natural so it should not harm you strings, actually it helps keep them smooth and not frayed. Also since its natural should help with the odor problem but suspect it will smell worse after use. It should keep that crack in that barrel nice and slick so them bolts slide right on down real good. And its a warming kind that will not freeze up in the winter too!
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