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caza 02-17-2008 09:23 PM

grind my own?
 
my family consumes approx 100# of ground deer/wildhog a year my processor does a great job with just enough fat added to make it cook well, and pakages it very well. will it be worth the investment
to purchase my own grinder and and mix and package it myself. if so what type of grinder and about how much should it cost.

AZBear 02-18-2008 01:27 AM

RE: grind my own?
 
If you have a good butcher and he is doing a great job why mess with a good thing?I wouldn't change a thing unless the price is just too much to justify his cost, but it does require your time and effort and you will have to still get the equipment. If you were doing hundreds of pounds then sure but your butcher needs to make a living too. Just my .02 worth...

Big Guy01 02-18-2008 05:58 AM

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Don't go there. If you get a grinder you will start to make sausage, the next thing you know you have a grinder,stuffer, smoker and are eating a variety of smoked and cured meats and sausages, salami, kielbasa, pepperoni, snack stix, andouli, brats, calebrese, pastrami, canadian bacon and a whole lot more. Its a slippery slope and it all starts with a grinder:D

jerseyhunter 02-18-2008 06:00 AM

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By all means get an electric grinder, at least 1/2 hp. I started off with a grinding attatchment for my kitchen-aid and then graduated to a grinder. Had I known it was so much fun I'd have bought the grinder from the start. Now not only do I butcher and grind my own burgers ,but learned to make sausage, hot dogs etc. It's not about the $ saved, but about the feeling you get doing it yourself. Check out Cabella's or thesausagemaker.com for prices.

Big Guy said it all.

Big Guy01 02-18-2008 07:28 AM

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If you are going to do it do it right. Don't waste your money on a cheap grinder. No plastic gears. You would do quite nicely with a size 22 grinder driven by a 3/4-1 hp motor. Check out Cabela's their grinders are good.

jackmcmanus21 02-20-2008 09:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: jerseyhunter

By all means get an electric grinder, at least 1/2 hp. I started off with a grinding attatchment for my kitchen-aid and then graduated to a grinder. Had I known it was so much fun I'd have bought the grinder from the start. Now not only do I butcher and grind my own burgers ,but learned to make sausage, hot dogs etc. It's not about the $ saved, but about the feeling you get doing it yourself. Check out Cabella's or thesausagemaker.com for prices.

Big Guy said it all.
It definitely feels good to bite into some burgers or sausage that you've hunted, prepared, grinded and cooked yourself...its satisfying.

waiting_for_a_gift 02-21-2008 03:07 PM

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Yes go for it. I just use a low end electric grinder, I think it cost about $70 about 20 years ago. It works as well today as the day I bought it, has had roughly 800 lbs of meat through it.

mudhead1s wife 02-28-2008 09:15 AM

RE: grind my own?
 
Josh and I use a hand grinder but only for our venison, since he doesn't have to use it so often he doesn't mind that it isn't electric. I help him cut it all up and he grinds it. We also make our own jerkey, but we do it in the oven.

MIKECC 03-07-2008 07:04 PM

RE: grind my own?
 
DIFFENTLY INVEST IN A GRINDER, BUT DONT BUY A CHEAP ONE.20 YEARS AGO $70 TODAYS PRICE $500,LOL. GET 3/4 OR 1 HP. AND YOU WILL WONT BE SORRY. YOU WILL LOVE TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS I MADE IT. IT TAKE A LITTLE TRIAL AND ERROR TO FIND THE RECIPE THAT OYU LIKE BUT THATS HALF THE FUN. THEN YOU WILL BE MAKING EVERYTHING.
GOOD LUCK

JoeA 03-09-2008 08:13 PM

RE: grind my own?
 
Last month I helped a bud make a small batch of wild hog sausage...to make, you know, room in the freezer. We got a recipe for breakfast sausage, and went at it. It came out so well, that we plan to grind up a lot more pork for sausage as a nomal part of processing. BigGuy01 is right, but his advice came a little late...and we're happy about it.

Good luck with all your game cooking experiments & experiences.

trailer 03-10-2008 05:13 PM

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As previously mentioned a couple times, don’t go cheap and yes stay away from plastic gears. Also, get one with lots of power...

The Rifleman 03-11-2008 01:37 PM

RE: grind my own?
 

ORIGINAL: caza

my family consumes approx 100# of ground deer/wildhog a year my processor does a great job with just enough fat added to make it cook well, and pakages it very well. will it be worth the investment
to purchase my own grinder and and mix and package it myself. if so what type of grinder and about how much should it cost.
Ground beef here goes for around $1.99 a pound for the cheap stuff and as much as $3.00 a pound for the good stuff.

So let's figure this in butcher terms.

The Amish that I have process, at least one deer a year, charges $45 to cut up a deer. They also charge $15 to skin it. They also charge another $25 - to debone it and grind it all up.

There is not a lot of meat in a deer.

My guesstimation - for a Pennsylvania Whitetail would be around 33%

Which means that if your deer weighed around 100 lbs / live weight, you would get about 33 lbs. of meat out of it.

So right there - with no pork added, you are going to pay the butcher $85 for 33 lbs of meat.

When you figure in the price of fuel and the price of a hunting license and the price of clothes and guns and ammo, you are probably up around $8.00 a lbs.

Now you want to BUY your own grinder and make your own.

A good grinder will run you around $300 or more.

Since I cut up no less than 3 deer a year and give away the meat and don't get anything given to me. I would figure that I have just as much into my meat as what I would have if I would take it to the Amish and have them do it for me.

BUT

When I cut the meat, I control what goes into it, how it is stored, how long it is aged, how much fat goes into it, how much hair ends up in it. How much gristle and bone fragments ends up in the meat.

As long as you have some place to hang the deer that is very cold or refridgerated and unless you have some people to help you. It wouldn't be in your best interest to start cutting your own meat.

At the same time, if you are LAZY, and like to sit on the couch and watch football games and not do much on the weekends except drink beer and watch TV. Then butchering is not for you.

I figure it takes me 8 hours, from the time I skin my deer until I clean my grinder to cut up a deer by myself.

Lot's of people will say that they will help you, but when the time comes to do the actual work. Everyone will have an excuse!

I have looked at lot's of grinders and will be the first to tell you that bigger is always better.. Forget about the amperage rating and estimated horsepower ratings on most grinders. Get one that is mounted on a plain old piece of board and uses a top cog V belt and a seperate motor.

The only other grinder I would look at would be the one from Harbor Freight and Salvage that has a grinder mounted to the side of a band saw.

A grinder is nice, but a bandsaw is even better.

It's hard to cut meat when it is frozen and in large pieces on your kitchen table.

Cut it into smaller pieces and you will be able to cut it up quicker and throw the scraps in a plastic bag and put it out with your regular garbage.

Most garbage men here don't like to take deer bones, because once they take it from one , they have to take it from everybody. Just figure 10,000 people, cutting their own deer and how many bones do you have in the garbage truck that week? Lot's!

My only other suggestion would be for you to spend the extra .01 a pound and eat BEEF!

doubleA 03-11-2008 06:42 PM

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I started many years ago with an hand crank #32 converted to electric pulley driven. It worked ok, though a little dangerous with the exposed parts. Then about 12 years ago I converted another #32with and industial right angle drive and 2 hp motor. This one worked ok too but was a bear to handle, it is heavy and cumbersome. I recently purchased this Cabela's # 32 and it's grinds very well and it's made where you can attach other things to it. Here is a picture I took while making up a small batch of summer sausage. You can really see the leaness of the venison on the left. So far I am pleased with the Cablea's equipment, I see it money well spent if you want good quality and to last a long time.



Here is a mixer attachment for the motor unit, it makes it a snap.



The Rifleman 03-12-2008 10:16 AM

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One thing you have to remember with a direct drive motor is that if an obstruction gets in the grinder.

A belt driven grinder will sometimes stop and slip the belt.

A direct drive will just keep on grinding and you will end up with shards of bones and other matter in your meat.

jerseyhunter 03-12-2008 10:38 AM

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A direct drive will just keep on grinding and you will end up with shards of bones and other matter in your meat.
Like my knife handle used to push the meat down cause the pusher was in the other room.[:@]Better than the fingers.:(

ducksmoker 03-12-2008 10:10 PM

RE: grind my own?
 
i have a hobart 22 head 5 hp220v/single phaze grinder this is a commercial grinder i payed $400 for it an put about $50 into the rebuild you can find these grinders out their the trick is to find one that is not 3/ phaze check restaurant supply co's that do repairs the down side it is about 100LB's
but it gets the job done fast.I picked up a Berkel digital scale with printer an LCD readout for 50 bucks an for my outside work i have a 16" jarvis 404 well saw. I am now in the market for a slicer i want a hobart edge

i would post some pictures but don't know how

JOSH GODBY 03-17-2008 06:17 PM

RE: grind my own?
 
I process all of my own venison and find it to be one of the most rewarding aspects of hunting. I dont have much $$ so I still do it the hard way. A #20 hand crank and a fillet knife work for me. My family eats deer 90% of the time and I wouldnt have it any other way.

racowboy 03-25-2008 09:30 AM

RE: grind my own?
 
I guess how much you spend should depend on how much excess money and time you have. I save everything I need to grind and do it once a year at the end of hunting season. I have a smaller grinder and it might take me an extra hour to grind a couple hundred pounds of meat, but like I said, it's only once a year. I have the Rival that looks like Cabelas cheap grinder with plastic gears that I just saw on special for $60. I have ran tons of meat through this thing. I ground a whole moose a couple years ago andI can't even remember how many years I have had this thing. Money well spent.


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