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cw821 04-27-2005 04:00 PM

What did you look for in a sight?
 
What did you look for when you bought your sight? Whether the pin (s) are vertical or horizontal? Plastic or all metal construction? Length of fiber optic?

How about adjustments? How important is it to have micro adjustments on a hunting bow?

I see a lot about the Spott Hog, but it has very short fibers and no micro adjustments. The Impact Archery sights have spools of fiber, but the pins are protected by plastic. The Copper Johns are similar. They look to me to have all metal construction, exctept that the spool of fiber is totally exposed to damage off the front of the sight.

Yep, you guessed it.... I'm looking at replacing the cheap sight that came on the bow when I bought it. I'm kinda leaning toward the HHA 5500, but I think I would prefer a 3 pin. What do you think guys?

manboy 04-27-2005 04:06 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
metal, easy adj; and fiber optic, for me it is copper johns.:D

hoyt3 04-27-2005 05:35 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
I've used cobra for a good amount of time. I like the metal construction, easily adjustable (I don't really have the need for all the fine tuning), bright fiber optic pins, and a rugged 'pin protector' (the actual term escapes me right now)

WABOWMAN 04-27-2005 05:42 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
Simple sturdy construction. The more complicated, the more likely to have a problem in the field. Make sure that the fiber does not take too sharp a bend. I have had a few break at the bend and that can be a handicap till you repair.

Illinoisboy 04-27-2005 06:56 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
i bought the impact solo. it had a very bright pin. it has a fixed 1 pin set dead on at 18 yards. it will put an arrow in a 6 inch kill zone out to about 27 yards, plenty of distance for me. multiple pins seems confusing to me, and in my opinion less to worry about at the moment of truth. harvested 6 deer with a single pin. works great for me. hope this helps.

illinoisboy

Matt / PA 04-27-2005 07:05 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
I couldn't care less about how bright a sight pin is or how many wraps of fiber you see.......every fiber optic on the market however long or short is plenty bright enough to see through legal shooting hours. Also bright pins are a problem in low light looking through a peep sight anyway, sort of like trying to see the car through the glare of the headlights at night. Way too much is made on pin brightness.

I wanted quality of machining, durability and ease of adjustment, I found those qualities in my Spot Hogg "Real deal" and "Hogg-it" sights. Solid , plenty bright, and a joy to use.

BGfisher 04-27-2005 07:11 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
IMO, you need look no further than the 5500 except that maybe you could look at the 5000. These are a couple of the best, brightest, most rugged, adjustable sights you can buy. And for a hunting sight I like a clear sight picture, meaning a single pin.

Plastic is definitely out.

shed33 04-28-2005 10:44 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
3 pins, good low light visibility, durable, horizontal ....... copper john dead nuts works well for my needs.

Kanga 04-28-2005 11:13 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
What Matt said



I see a lot about the Spott Hog, but it has very short fibers and no micro adjustments
Gee I dont know where you came up with the no micro adjustment on the Spott Hogg.

My 2 Hogg-it's have 2nd, 3rd axis, gang adjustment and then micro adjustment for each pin.

PABowhntr 04-28-2005 11:24 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
In order of importance

1. All metal construction
2. Bright fiber optic pins
3. Zero pin gap adjustment
4. Round pin guard
5. Simple adjustement (doesn't have to be micro).

With that in mind I have been using the Copper John Dead Nuts sight on two of my bows. The third is adorned with the Cobra Sidewinder.

Other than those two I like the Spott Hogg and Extreme Line of sights.

Big John 04-28-2005 01:51 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

I couldn't care less about how bright a sight pin is or how many wraps of fiber you see.......
Just wait a couple years Matt, when age creeps up on you, you'll be taping flashlights to your riser trying to see better.

BGfisher 04-28-2005 01:56 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
Yeh Matt, what Big John said. No wonder your posts are always so dumb. You're still young and inexperienced. NOW BE

NICE TO THIS OLD MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!

Big John 04-28-2005 04:21 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
He better be nice to me or I'll have Buck Magnet beat him like a rented mule!

Rick James 04-28-2005 08:10 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
Well after going through several sights in the last 2 years, I must say the Spot Hogg IT is the best by far that I have ever used. They are expensive, but worth every penny. The Copper John had problems with the soft metal in the pin tracks forming when you tightened the pins down, and made it a huge PITA to adjust the pins in the place that you wanted the pin to be. The Copper John level was also off, and the adjustability in it wasn't independant from the gang adjustment so it was a PITA to adjust as well. They were all metal which is nice, but I think the Cobra Mini Venom is just as good of a sight as the Copper John and it costs half as much. I guess it isn't as cool as saying you have a Copper John though.....lol ;)

The Spot Hogg has the 3rd axis adjustments, which is nice because the 3d ranges around here LOVE up and downhill shots, and also nice for when in a tree shooting longer shots. The pins are also the easiest to adjust that I have ever seen, and the wire between the pins is nice for those shots ranged between your pins. I have the .019 which is plenty bright enough for me to shoot nearly at dark, I do it all the time at my local clubs outdoor 3D range in the woods. I also have the light coming in the mail incase I decide that it isn't bright enough to hunt with, however I don't think I will need it.

Add in the fact that I can add in a lense next winter for spots indoor without buying a new sight, and it makes even more sense to spend the money up front for a Spot Hogg.

Matt / PA 04-28-2005 08:51 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
What the!? Now I have 2 old farts ganging up on me?[:-]

Dumb!?....Me?.......Sorry Barry I forgot you need those .950 sight pins these days.;) If you can see the deer's ears ,nose ,and tail around the pin glow you're good to go right?:D

BJ,
Tell Buck Magnet to settle down, I am short on 3D target stakes and he'd make a perfect replacement.[:-]

huntnmuleys 04-28-2005 09:31 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
all metal construction is a must.
at least 5 pins, i like fiberoptic, but before we had those i did just as well with those old brass ones and some model paint.

i like the round pin guard, but honestly i dont think i really shoot any better with it.
i like simple, copper john, and p.s.e. sights fit the bill.

i like when a quiver attaches easily, cant imagine shooting without a bow quiver
brad

zak123 04-28-2005 09:43 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
I look for a nice buck!:D

BigJ71 04-28-2005 09:47 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
I think you should look for a metal constructed easy adjustable sight. There are lots on the market. You don't have to spend tons of money either. I think Rick James mentioned the Cobra Mini Venom, This is the sight I use and I think it's great.

If I had to change anything on it I would like to see a metal guard instead of the plastic one, but I'm not convinced the guard is that big a deal and the rest of the construction is metal. What I do like about it is with the exception of the actual sight pins, all other adustments can be made without an allen wrench. This makes life alot easier when first getting everything sighted in. I also like the compact design. I'm not a big fan of having a huge sight sticking out getting caught on everything. No it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles on it but it's sturdy and reliable.

Are there better sights on the market, you bet your a$$ there are, but if all you do is hunt, for the money it's hard to beat. I can buy any sight I want...hell I can buy a thousand sights (or bows for that matter) tomorrow if I wanted to. But come fall I will have my same Browning Boss Tracker bow with the same Whisker Biscuit rest and the same Cobra Mini Venom sight on it shooting the same .006 Carbon Express arrows and I will kill deer like I always do.

As long as your equipment is sturdy and reliable (don't buy junk) the thing you need to worry about the most is the guy pulling the string.

extreme1 04-28-2005 09:57 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
Simple to use,all metal construction,round pin guard,bright enough for my likes,easily adjustable,and very tough.
That being said I would have to say the
COPPER JOHN-------Price isnt to bad either(only $110 Canadian)

ShadowAce 04-28-2005 11:11 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

I couldn't care less about how bright a sight pin is or how many wraps of fiber you see.......every fiber optic on the market however long or short is plenty bright enough to see through legal shooting hours. Also bright pins are a problem in low light looking through a peep sight anyway, sort of like trying to see the car through the glare of the headlights at night. Way too much is made on pin brightness.

I wanted quality of machining, durability and ease of adjustment, I found those qualities in my Spot Hogg "Real deal" and "Hogg-it" sights. Solid , plenty bright, and a joy to use.
I agree. Also, lights on sights are ridiculous IMO. Here is the one I use from VBG.

Rick James 04-29-2005 05:56 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12

I think you should look for a metal constructed easy adjustable sight. There are lots on the market. You don't have to spend tons of money either. I think Rick James mentioned the Cobra Mini Venom, This is the sight I use and I think it's great.

If I had to change anything on it I would like to see a metal guard instead of the plastic one, but I'm not convinced the guard is that big a deal and the rest of the construction is metal. What I do like about it is with the exception of the actual sight pins, all other adustments can be made without an allen wrench. This makes life alot easier when first getting everything sighted in. I also like the compact design. I'm not a big fan of having a huge sight sticking out getting caught on everything. No it doesn't have all of the bells and whistles on it but it's sturdy and reliable.

Are there better sights on the market, you bet your a$$ there are, but if all you do is hunt, for the money it's hard to beat. I can buy any sight I want...hell I can buy a thousand sights (or bows for that matter) tomorrow if I wanted to. But come fall I will have my same Browning Boss Tracker bow with the same Whisker Biscuit rest and the same Cobra Mini Venom sight on it shooting the same .006 Carbon Express arrows and I will kill deer like I always do.

As long as your equipment is sturdy and reliable (don't buy junk) the thing you need to worry about the most is the guy pulling the string.
My fathers and my old Mini Venom had all metal....with the micro adjustable marks on them. Wonder if yours is an older model? I just bought my fathers for the Reflex Grizzly he just bought, and picked it up on Ebay for $25. ;)

PABowhntr 04-29-2005 07:32 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

He better be nice to me or I'll have Buck Magnet beat him like a rented mule!
Hee..hee. Now that I would like to see.

rybohunter 04-29-2005 08:01 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
In a pendulum, I looked for quietness, price, and quality of design.

In a fixed pin, my criteria was 3 pin, 019 size, sturdy metal construction, round pin hood, and ease of adjustment.

BigJ71 04-29-2005 09:09 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

My fathers and my old Mini Venom had all metal....with the micro adjustable marks on them. Wonder if yours is an older model? I just bought my fathers for the Reflex Grizzly he just bought, and picked it up on Ebay for $25.
I'm not sure....depends on what is considered "old". In the bow market if it's more that two years then it's "old":D I have had it for a few years. I bought it used so I'm not sure just how old it is. Mine also has the micro adjustment marks on it and it also has the little "T" handles to tighten the windage and elevation on the sight so no allen wrenches are needed (only for the pins). It'a all metal except fot the sight guard that's clear plastic, but seems to be holding up fine.

It's a great sight, it's simple, sturdy and reliable and I don't plan on changing it.

BGfisher 04-29-2005 10:12 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

What the!? Now I have 2 old farts ganging up on me?[:-]

Dumb!?....Me?.......Sorry Barry I forgot you need those .950 sight pins these days.;) If you can see the deer's ears ,nose ,and tail around the pin glow you're good to go right?:D

BJ,
Tell Buck Magnet to settle down, I am short on 3D target stakes and he'd make a perfect replacement.[:-]

I can't wait till you get old. And for that remark I will let out a fart. .950 pins? Who you kidding? I don't use anything over .600 with a light on it.

Big John 04-29-2005 01:36 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

I can't wait till you get old. And for that remark I will let out a fart. .950 pins? Who you kidding? I don't use anything over .600 with a light on it.
Me too. Darn young whipper-snappers.

cw821 04-30-2005 10:42 PM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
I've decided on the new HHA T-500 triple threat. It's all metal construction, very bright 3 pin, and the pins seem to be protected very well by the deep sight guard. thanks for all the input guys.

throwingStarr 05-01-2005 12:38 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 
So far i love my sidewinder, maybe in the future they could come up with a positive ratcheting detent (a micro cog ) system for elevation and windage adjustments bypassing the need for allen heads.

nodog 05-01-2005 06:29 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

ORIGINAL: cw821

I've decided on the new HHA T-500 triple threat. It's all metal construction, very bright 3 pin, and the pins seem to be protected very well by the deep sight guard. thanks for all the input guys.
That looks like a good one. Look forward to reading how you like it.

Arthur P 05-01-2005 07:32 AM

RE: What did you look for in a sight?
 

My 2 Hogg-it's have 2nd, 3rd axis, gang adjustment and then micro adjustment for each pin.
Dang, Aussie! Did'ja get an operator's manual with those things?[:-][8D]

I've always hated sights on a hunting bow, but used them for target and 3D. Before I quit using sights altogether, I thought the Archers Choice Grizzly was almost the perfect sight. Simple, all metal, rugged, bright pins and it held zero very well. Buying and installing two extra pins in the Grizzly to make it a 5-pin sight, that made it perfect.;)

Really though, I truly do hate having sights on a hunting bow. Dim light isn't the only time I've had trouble trying to see an animal on the other side of my pins. I've had drizzle freeze in my peep and kept me from getting a shot. I've drawn up to find a pin missing. The problem of not being able to see clearly past the pins in less than ideal lighting conditions is enough of a drawback, in itself, to keep me from hunting with sights. The other little 'inconveniences' just added fuel to the fire.

Yes, I've got to shoot and practice a little more in order to maintain my proficiency but what's the problem in that? I actually LIKE shooting bows. :)


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