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btomlin 03-07-2005 09:13 AM

typical vs. non-typical
 
What do most of you classify as a non-typical. There is a thread going on now with photos of some very nice deer....however, there are a large number of them I would call a typical.

Some appear to be very typical other than a sticker/kicker point somewhere.

Is there a guidline???

I have a 155 typical ten that has 3 extra tines that total 14". Would this be a NT 170" or a typical that barely makes P & Y???;):D

Double Creek 03-07-2005 09:23 AM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 
Personally, a deer has to be pretty freaky for me to call it non-typical. I usually classify most "non-typicals" as a typical with some trash points.

IL-Cornfed 03-07-2005 11:27 AM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 

ORIGINAL: btomlin

I have a 155 typical ten that has 3 extra tines that total 14". Would this be a NT 170" or a typical that barely makes P & Y???;):D
On this site the definition seems to have changed so I guess we just roll with the flow? ;):D I also have taken deer just like the one you describe. When most folks that I actually know and hunt with talk of bucks they would refer to that deer of yours as a 150 class 10 pointer with "some trash/stickers". Here, many members would say that it was indeed a 170 class buck and not even mention the fram size???? I actually noticed this alot when Buckeye took his "160 class" buck and the debate and all that followed that deal? Many insisted that the deer be called a 130 class typical and not the 160 he was calling it. Personally when I look at the nice buck I do not see a 160 buck NOR do I see a 130 class buck, instead I see him for a 140-150 class buck with some "trash". Of course once many accepted that here I almost felt to go through and "update" many of my scores..... hey cool.... I've taken a handful of 160 and 170 class bucks! That does sound a lot better??? :D:D

For all purposes, I'm interested in FRAME size to get the feel of what kind of animals we're talking about so I would prefer someone tell me GROSS typical score. For instance, you tell me you have a 170 class buck hanging on your wall then I'm thinking a B&C class frame size not a 150 class with stickers. To be a non-typical he needs a lot of trash of something really strange and unusual.

Examples:

I would call this a typical, I wouldn't possibly try adding the fork and sticker to his score



This is what it takes IMO to be called a non-typ, lots of character, a little bit of everything..... these bucks are my favorites




rob1 03-07-2005 11:42 AM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 
Most deer can be scored either way unless they are obviously non-typical ( such as the Beatty Buck ). I am a scorer for Buckmasters and to be non-typical in their book, the buck has to have more than 10% of his total score by non-typical points. Any point is typical if it grows in a typical manner ( off the top of the main beam ). If it grows off of another point or off of the main beam anywhere other than the top, it is considered a non-typical or abnormal point. Alot of times it is left up to the owner of the deer as to how they want it to be scored. To get your non-typical score, take the typical score of your deer ( net, because a non-typical does have deductions ), and add the total inches of your non-typical points to that score.:)

buckeye 03-07-2005 02:28 PM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 

Personally when I look at the nice buck I do not see a 160 buck NOR do I see a 130 class buck, instead I see him for a 140-150 class buck with some "trash".
You are 100% correct:) This is also the way I see it and view the rack. The contest called for SCI scores (total gross) though that is why I posted it as such[8D]

killer243 03-07-2005 04:10 PM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 
i don't call it non-typ. unless thier is something really weird or different. the first buck in the picture i would not call non-typ. however the 2nd one surely is a non typical

recurver67 03-07-2005 08:36 PM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 
The deer would have to have a lot of non-typ. points in order for it to score good in non-typ. Any point that is not typ. is a deduction in inches or add to the final score as non typ. This buck is a typ. ,but it looks funny.


btomlin 03-08-2005 07:44 AM

RE: typical vs. non-typical
 
I know what constitutes NT vs. Typ in my mind & books mind. I was more looking at why it seems some call a typical a NT because of a few stickers. I didn't know if it was a regional thing or a personal thing

I really don't care if a deer scores better as a typ or NT...I mostly care that it was a mature animal. Headgear is pretty much "luck". Mature animals are hard to kill...period. If he's a mature animal with 130class head gear or B&C headgear, regardless of type of "hat" he is still the same class opponent.:D

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