Should states recognize other states’ licenses?
 

This will be my first hunting season in New York. I was all excited about this season (my first away from Illinois)!!! I found an awesome bow-hunting club (Tri-Village Bow Hunters), and some nice state ground to hunt. Then I went to get my license. At this point, I was told I could gun hunt but could not bow hunt. Now, I have hunted bow and gun in Illinois for about 13 years and I was dumbfounded. I can use a firearm to hunt deer, but not a bow? So then I was told that to bow hunt I would need to take the bow-hunter safety course. Now don’t get me wrong, I am all for hunter education. But after 13 years? Granted, I may learn something, but that is beside the point.

The point I am trying to get across is that I am able to hunt with bow and gun in Illinois, but when I moved to New York I loose my bow-hunting privileges(until I take the course) . Should a state recognize another states hunting privileges?

Thanks for letting me vent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GB

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I doubt if many would agree since states rights are a constitutional issue. I haven't hunted Colorado because they require a hunter safety course certificate and at 53 I refuse to take one. Most states have a cutoff year that waives this issue for those who have been breathing a while. Colorado sticks at 1948 birth date and I'm 1949 so I stay away. I still think each state needs to have control to keep big outfitters from politicking their way into tags. Good luck with the gun this year.

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gleninAZ

My issue is not about the permit for hunting deer. It is that if you are able to hunt using a method in one state should other states recognize and accept that states qualification.

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I would like for them to recgonize license, but with all the different cahnges in the laws it would be to hard for them to lewt you just go unless u understand all the laws of that state. If they could set up some kind of system where you could use your out of state license but still learn the laws that would be nice. But dont look forward to seein it happen anytime soon.

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Another aspect to look at is why I can use a gun but not bow. I would think it would be the other way around or that I could not use either one.

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PIKE_DEER, it does seem ridiculous to allow gun but no bowhunting. If there's potential for disaster, the gun season seems more likely. Is there nowhere you can take the course?

Phil.

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Most will honor the other states license if it has the same or stricter requirements for licensing. If Illinois doesn't have a bowhunter ed requirement they won't honor it. I just went through a month long fiasco to get my NY license and I've had a non-resident NY license for 25 years. They changed their system this year and haven't got all the bugs worked out of it. Can't you get in a course somewhere?

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I signed up to take a course on Saturday the 14. I can’t just let a bow season go by. LOL To me it is just the logic behind it. I am sure that other people that have the opportunity to hunt other states encounter this. But, me being bull headed, it just doesn’t make much sense. I am all for state government, but sometimes things would be easier with a little federalization. Like in Illinois you need to have a firearms owner ID card to buy ammo, but if you are from out of state you don’t need anything. Just an example from my home state. Anyway, I am sure that we all would agree that it is good just to do what you need to do to get in the woods.

Thanks for all the posts and letting me vent. LOL
GB

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Pike-No argument from me and I ain't movin' to NY. Come to Arizona and shoot at a big fat elk. Problem is usually too many people who don't know a deer from a dog that are making the laws. Sad but true.

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I understand your rationing behind the 13 years you've put on bowhunting in Illinois, however I am a firm believer in the Bowhunter Education program regardless of the impact it has on a seasoned bowhunter. I wish the course was mandatory in everystate regardless of the experience of the archer. Everyone will learn a little something and I gasp at how many archers are out there that shouldn't be and don't have to take the course, it's frightening, I should know, I used to be one. I hadn't a clue when I started at age 15, now 20 seasons later I hope can teach someone from my mistakes. I took the class several years ago to hunt states that require it and for the experience it might offer. I'm glad I took the class and actually aided the class more than myself, however perhaps I made a statement to a newbie. I've hunted several states but am yet to hunt a state requiring the course I took.

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I was looking at bow hunting NY, and found out about the class, and due to some other time constraints, I am muzzleloader hunting in NY.

I don't have a problem with it, NY residents have to take the class, right? Then why exempt non-residents just cause their state does not require the class? I don't have a problem with it, if my travel time was different I would take the class prior to going. As it is, I don't have that issue this year.

Anyway, good luck on the hunt! They have spotted a black bear and no one else is hunting them, so I guess I have decent odds on that and a deer! All private land.

--Jim

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I agree with Rob, I think the education program is a good thing and think that all states should require some form of hunter education. I just recently took a bowhunter education course and believe that if it is taught be knowledgeable instructors even a very experienced hunter can learn a few things. Probably the toughest part of the program is having to tailor it to both kids and novices as well as experienced hunters. I would like to see a basic course taught to get your first license then a more advanced course offered later.

PS - There are a lot of hunters out there who have hunted for years and are also some of the most dangerous people in the woods. I don't see any problem requiring all hunters to take a safety course. Yeah it might be an inconvenience to somebody like Pike_Deer but if it forces somebody unsafe to take it and HOPEFULLY learn something then I'm all for it!

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New York enacted is bowhunter education program back in 1980. At the time, I had been bowhunting for 10 years and had taken several animals including an elk (out of state of course). I attended the first class in my area, along with about 40 other people, most who had been bowhunting for years.

Did I learn anything? No, I don't think so. Was it a pain? Heck no, anything that had to do with hunting was something I looked forward to. The instructor encouraged a lot of participation and we had a good time talking about bowhunting. I think things have changed since then, and the course is longer and probably more boring, but it's still about hunting stuff. Go there with the attitude that you're going to enjoy it and you just might.

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My only addition to this would be ...remember some states allow you to SAY &quot;I have hunted before in order to get a license&quot; and that is it!
Colorado is requiring a hunting safty course not specificly a bow hunters course when I went 4 years ago. I don;t know if they have changed that or not but I have my card.



Good Luck PIKE_DEER!


Greg

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Amosgreg do I need one to bowhunt ohio? Going some time in oct.If I do I need to get on it.Thanks

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I'm not sure how I feel about honoring licenses from other states but I do think that non-res fees should be standardized.

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Need to jump in and clarify my comments. I think safety courses are great and Arizona gives you a permanent bonus point for takin the 16 hour course. I trained for the first concealed weapons pemits here and support education for all ages since an 81 year old in my class shot 2 good guys and a baby! Colorado does recognize an AZ certificate but I just haven't wanted to sit with a class of youngsters and their dads by myself. I am attending a class this fall with a freind and his 11 year old so will get it done. Also agree that being older doesn't make you smarter or more ethical. We've all seen old idiots who will take any shot on any animal. My $.02.

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They prob. require a hunter safty course for firearms which you have already taken in your home state. So it comes down to the bow course which could be fun and may allow you to meet some others in your area who bow hunt. Never know you may get some good tips or a new hunting buddy out of the deal.

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