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Danny31005 09-04-2002 07:12 AM

One Cam Bow Questions
 
I bought a Parker Hunter Mag 2 this year. Granted the bow was a 2001 model that had been used as a demo bow in a pro shop last year. The bow has been shooting fine up until a couple of weeks ago. I noticed then that I was getting wear on the bottom of my vanes. I use a Whisker Bisquit with the cock vane up. After looking at the set up, I noticed that my nock point (I shoot a loop) was higher than it should be. The loop had not moved up on the string (at least I don't think it has) it was really tight, but I'm wondering if my string has stretched enough to cause nock point to move.

So, my questions are:
1. When the string on a one cam bow stretches, which direction will the nock point move?
2. On the new zebra strings (like Parker and other manufacturers use) how long (how many shots) does it take before a string shows signs of stretching?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have!

jsasker 09-04-2002 07:20 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
I'm no expert by any means but i think a string will stretch until you get a few hundred shots on it.about your nocking point,can you just move your loop down?check to make sure your loop is tight and isn't gonna slide up on ya.i'd bet your string did stretch.jmo.

PABowhntr 09-04-2002 08:19 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
1. Your nock point will move up when the string stretches as most of the string is above the nock point.

2. I believe Parker is using, or was using, Brownell D75 material but, regardless, as js stated, it usually takes a couple hundred shots for the new string materials to settle in completely.


















Danny31005 09-04-2002 08:33 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
PABowhntr,

So, you think after a few hundred shots, the string will stabilize on the stretching? I've probably shot this bow 1,000 +/- times and there was a significant change inthe loop position. The loop was tight so all the movement had to come from string stretch. I had really begun to see a lot of arrow torgue going down range. I plan to shoot during lunch today to see the effects of moving the loop back down. Of course that means reseting the pins again. No biggie...

Straightarrow 09-04-2002 09:14 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
1. Your nock point will move up when the string stretches as most of the string is above the nock point.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

PA, it would seem to me that would cause the nock point to move down. Maybe I'm visualizing it wrong, but that's how I would expect it to move.


PABowhntr 09-04-2002 11:12 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
Danny,

If you are still getting significant movement on your string loop after 1000+ shots then it would lead me to believe that you are either shooting a bow with the older fastflight string material installed (which shouldn't be the case provided the bow you mentioned has the original string/cable on it) or the string loop is moving. Now, you did state that you didn't believe it was the string loop but I would ask you how you know that it isn't? Did you mark the string both above and below the loop knots to use as a baseline to judge movement? If you haven't then try it and see what happens.

Something else to consider is that maybe your center serving is moving and not the string or the string loop itself.

Straightarrow,

I was trying to visualize it for awhile too and I kept coming back to the image of a rubber band. Imagine stretching a rubber band over a door knob. As the rb is stretched the material &quot;moves toward&quot; the point where the most pressure is being applied. In the case of the rubber band that would be the door knob. In the case of the bowstring it would be the idler wheel...unless I am missing something here.

















Danny31005 09-04-2002 11:38 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
PA,

The reason I say the loop isn't moving is 2 fold. 1. The pro shop just replaced less than 2 months ago. 2. When he installed the loop, he did something I had never seen before. He ties some sort of string on either side of a nocked arrow, then ties on the loop, then on the outside of the loop, he ties another set of knots. I tried to move it before..... that sucker is in there TIGHT! I'm hoping it was just string stretch.

Straightarrow 09-04-2002 11:57 AM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I was trying to visualize it for awhile too and I kept coming back to the image of a rubber band. Imagine stretching a rubber band over a door knob. As the rb is stretched the material &quot;moves toward&quot; the point where the most pressure is being applied. In the case of the rubber band that would be the door knob. In the case of the bowstring it would be the idler wheel...unless I am missing something here.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

I'm still trying to see that, but my mind isn't cooperating. :)

I vizualize it this way. Take a 100&quot; string and mark a spot 30&quot; from one end. Stretch the string one inch. This inch of stretch should be evenly distributed along the full length of the string. This would mean 7/10 of the inch is now added to the point above the nock and 3/10 added to the point below the nock. Now you have an even greater disproportionate amount of string above the nock. This means the nock is 4/10 of an inch closer to the short end, then it was before, or below the original nocking point. Does that make any sense?


PABowhntr 09-04-2002 12:52 PM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
Yes, it does make sense to me but then again so does my elaboration...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>. I am confused now too...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

















Arthur P 09-04-2002 01:13 PM

RE: One Cam Bow Questions
 
Ain't it wonderful how progress has simplified our lives? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

You know, I get plenty of string creep on dual cam bows. Brace height and axle to axle change, big time. Nock point? Hardly ever. The only way I know something is amiss is when I notice the bow making a little extra noise that it wasn't making before. Accuracy and shot placement never degrade a bit.


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