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BolognaSniper 12-23-2004 12:32 PM

Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Which do you prefer and why?

gutshot 12-23-2004 12:51 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Just this year I went back to Muzzy's after using Wasp Jakhammers for three years. I personally didn't like the lack of penitration that I got with the mechanicals. 2 deer this year and one of them shot at just a little over 40 yards and I gor complete pass throughs on both. JMHO.

johnch 12-23-2004 02:01 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
I shoot Muzzy's also 4 blade 115 gr.
I use a slower bow and I always get full penatration for a good exit wound and easy and short blood trail to the deer

cardeer 12-23-2004 03:18 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
spitfire mechanicals ,find they shoot like my practice tips and always get good penatration and most the time pass thrus with exit holes that you could drive a truck through. Infact this year you could look through the deer like a scope.

zak123 12-23-2004 05:02 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
We all know what is going to happen. 5shot is going to come in here and post a link to his site. I will go ahead and take care of that.

http://www.broadheadtests.com/MECHANICALVSFIXED.html

IL-Cornfed 12-23-2004 05:16 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
"we all know what is going to happen"..... yep,... I was thinking that eventually it will turn into soma kind of fight like most posts on this topic do! That's what usually happens as soon as even just a little bashing from someone starts. :D All that being said, I prefer mechs. The reason is simple for me, I have never seen anything that could put deer down as quickly and as cleanly as do my tursted Rocket Styeelheads do! I have used dozens of differnet b-heads and many of the popular quality designs but the Rockets have impressed me the most. 25 deer, every single shot has been a complete pass though and not a single deer has taken more than 60 yards on me! That's a level of performance I've never personally seen with ANY other b-head design!!! 100% fully functioning, full size entry and exit holes everytime. It's reliablity that I personally have only heard of from Rocket b-heads. A truly exceptional deployable blade "aerohead" system! Devastating!

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-23-2004 05:37 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Fixed Thunder head 100 grain. I lost a nice deer on a mech. once. I don,t think the damn thing opened. I hit him right in the boiler room and the arrow didn,t pass thru. 15 yds tops. I have always had pass thru shots with the thunder heads. Just my humble opinion though,

IL-Cornfed 12-23-2004 05:50 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
"I lost a nice deer on a mech. I don't think the damn thing opened."...... you recoverd the deer and confirmed this right??? I lost a nice deer once with a fixed blade too???? :(

Bees 12-23-2004 06:03 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
I use both, If I am hunting an area where I anticipate a longer shot, I'll use a fixed blade. If I'm hunting an area where I anticipate a short range shot, I'll use a mechanical. that's how I do it.

I always have to chuckel when I read someone blame the tip of thier arrow for lack of success. I ain't the broadheads fault if ya can't place the arrow where it is supposed to go. And most story's about mechanical broadheads not working, are really stories about a missed place arrow and the person telling the tale is expecting the broadhead to save him.
sorry ain't going to happen, a missed place arrow is a misplaced arrow and recovery will vary no matter what broadhead you were using at the time..

As for my personal experience comparing fixed to mechanical, I have noticed that the mechanical's seem to put the deer down quicker. for me a good shot with a mechanical the deer is usually down 30 to 50 yards from me. when I use a fixed seems like the deer are usually found 70 to 125 yards away. I guess maybe because the deer is out farther when I use a fixed to begin with.
anyway that's my experience.

I think all the broadheads on the market today will put a deer down if placed correctly..

IL-Cornfed 12-23-2004 07:58 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 

ORIGINAL: Bees

I always have to chuckel when I read someone blame the tip of thier arrow for lack of success. I ain't the broadheads fault if ya can't place the arrow where it is supposed to go. And most story's about mechanical broadheads not working, are really stories about a missed place arrow and the person telling the tale is expecting the broadhead to save him.
sorry ain't going to happen, a missed place arrow is a misplaced arrow and recovery will vary no matter what broadhead you were using at the time..

EXACTLY!!!! ;):D:D

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-23-2004 07:58 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Yea I recovered the lost deer. I,ve heard it all now.

DavidPaul007 12-23-2004 08:37 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
"We all know what is going to happen. 5shot is going to come in here and post a link to his site. I will go ahead and take care of that. "

ROFL :D

I typically take mech's if I'm not 100% sure I can place my b-head where I want. This year I've had problems getting my b-heads to group, and thus, I've been going with mech's.

duramaxlt 12-26-2004 10:43 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
i've also had good luck with rocket steel heads

DaveC 12-26-2004 10:59 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Fixed- muzzy phantoms= big cut, huge hole, super penetration.

Mech- Rocket Sidewinders, they work great- nice hole in & big hole out
But there usually a one hit wonder. (bent blades & or furrel after 1 pass thru), but their cheap so I'm willing to but one per deer.

bigbuck7 12-26-2004 06:48 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
The more moving parts you have the more chance their is something can go wrong.

buckstar 12-26-2004 07:02 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 

ORIGINAL: bigbuck7

The more moving parts you have the more chance their is something can go wrong.
Yep, learned that the hard way. Used 100-125gr. Muzzy's for years without a complaint but just had to use a mechanical and see for myself. The buck was 15 yrds. away and my hit, though somewhat high, made it through the lungs and piled him up 1oo or so yrds down the trail. Good thing it hit the lungs because the hole, entry and exit, proved the blades never opened. I can't remember the brand but do remember they had a small blade for a point. All I can figure is the blade made just enough of an opening to let the mechanical blades pass through without grabbing anything to pull them open.

MasonsRidge 12-26-2004 07:31 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
I myself tried a mechanical broadhead about 15 years ago and it didn't open up due to the "O"-ring. I realize that these broadheads have changed since 15 years but since then I have taken numerous deer with the "ole reliable" Muzzy 3-Blade chisseled point. Bad to the bone!

I might add, using a Muzzy, you might encounter a few pass-throughs, that's a good thing. Good luck.

BolognaSniper 12-28-2004 06:05 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
My apologies gentlemen i did not intend or mean for any kind of argument. I have only used fixed broad heads and was just curious. I use Thunderhead 125s. Just have had many freinds try to convince me to switch to mechanicals. Though I have only been Bow hunting for 3 years the 5 deer I have taken with bow, none went more than 75 yards after shot, avg. shot distance was 25-30 yards, complete pass through all 5 times, shooting a PSE 1000c with a 4 inch over draw ,slings them at 261 fps. I was just wondering why some people want to change things that are not broke?

5 shot 12-29-2004 04:02 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
http://www.broadheadtests.com/MECHAN...html:D:D:D:D:D

gselkhunter 12-29-2004 06:02 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Don't listen to them, if they didn't shoot super fast bows or if they could tune a bow right, they would fixed blade broadheads too. Good fixed blade broadheads hold up, both Muzzy and Thunderhead are in that ball park. I shoot 130 muzzy. Go back into the tuning manuals and read about arrow balance and flight. It will tell you for good flight and penetration 60% of the arrow weight in the first third of the arrow! Add that to razor sharp blades on a 4blade Muzzy and you are talking dead anything.
Gselkhunter

SniperP1 12-29-2004 07:44 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Rocky Mountain Gator XP 100gr, This is the first time I've used the XP's, I was using the original Gator's w/the bone crushing tip's but, I couldn't find any this year. So, I went with the XP's, I'm very happy with them. I'm hunting with a recurve & you need something that leaves a big entry hole. Most of the deer I've shot have bled out very quickly & didn't go more than 100-150yrds, I dropped two right where they were standing.
This is the hole I put in the one I shot this year, I shot him in the spine directly under my stand & he dropped like a brick! I washed the broadhead & put it right back on the arrow & plan on using it on the next deer I shoot. It still shaves hair!


Orions_Bow 12-29-2004 01:48 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
I like both but I shoot fixed for 90% of my hunting! I generally like a good solid 3 blade head with ultra sharp blades & a super hard tip. I have found this type of setup works on any type of game animal! The 2 heads I like the best are the Rocky Mountain Ti series & the Ironhead 125's. IF I use a mechanical I use a Gator XP for the really big cut (works great on turkey's and coyotes). I also really like the Snyper.

This is kind of my guideline for the type of head I would use based on the animal being hunted and a bow generating between 65 & 70lbs of KE.

Turkey - Mechanical with a massive cutting diameter.

Deer & Black Bear - 3 or 4 fixed blade head (Rocky Mountain TI-110, Thunderhead, Muzzy are all examples of this style of head) or 2 blade mechanical (Gator XP or Snyper) with a moderate cutting diameter. For Bear a wider cut is important in my opinion (TI-125 a good example).

Elk, Caribou - 3 or 4 fixed blade head or a moderate cutting diameter mechanical with rear slidding blades for extra penetration (I personally would not use a mechanical), a cut on contact head is a great option as well (Magnus, Phantoms, Bear Razorhead, Rocky Mountain Tradition are all good examples of this style of head).

Moose - 3 or 4 blade fixed blade head or a cut on impact head. I would not use any type mechanical on this size of game.

I think too many people get caught up in it's either a mechanical or a fixed....I tend to think it's a matter of choosing a good broadhead design for the type of game you are hunting. If you only hunt deer & turkey a mechanical can be a great broadhead as well as a good fixed blade head. Both will work & both have proven they will work. If you are only a moose hunter then a mechanical may not be a good choice. Why not use more than one style of broadhead?

mobow 12-29-2004 07:15 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
I shoot 4 blade, 100 gr. Muzzy, not because I have anything against mechanicals. I killed deer with mechanicals, and if you are looking for a huge hole, hey, nothing opens em up like a rocket buckblaster. The reason I shoot fixed is this, anyone can put a mechanical on and shoot like a field point. I like to tinker, and man did I tinker, but when it worked, wow, what a great feeling. Just a sense of accomplishment.

moose1915 12-29-2004 08:19 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
i carry both in my quiver. if there is time, i prefer sabertooth cut on contacts, but i wanted to try mech this year, and shot a deer with rocky revolutions. i like the idea of the blades not having to fold out, just slide back into place. and they did a great job.

i guess i'm just wierd.

-moose

xeniabuck 12-29-2004 11:57 PM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
Only thing is with fixed blade is the inconsistent shooting compared to shooting field tips. I prefer mechs. If you shoot where you are supposed to, they will kill deer just as good.

Stump_MN_Hunter 12-30-2004 06:56 AM

RE: Fixed or Mechanical Broad
 
BolognaSniper,

Bottom line is that if you've found something that your confident with, shoots well with your setup and has done the job in the past, there is no reason to switch!! Instead of switching to different b-heads and spending time tuning them to your setup....spend that time doing more scouting and hanging out in the woods. I'm sure you will be much more happy.


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