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3 Shot 11-01-2004 07:35 PM

The Best Mechanical
 
Ok, with my recent failure of finding a nice buck I shot with a NAP Spitfire, I am doubting them.......

They seem unusually hard to open, and seem to get poor penetration even when compared to other mechanical heads, and another thing, is they cost at least $7 more than say a Rocky Mtn. Snyper.

So I am on the quest for some new mechanicals, if I can't find a good mechanical I have some Muzzy's sitting around.

I have heard good things about Rocket Mechnicals, and the Rocky Mtn. Snypers, but I wanted to get your guys opinions on them or other mechanical heads.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Ken/WV 11-01-2004 09:24 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
I have had very good success with the Nap Spitfires, Nap Scoprion XP's, and the Grim Reaper broadheads. All are very good...the only downfall is that the Nap Scorpion requires the small rubberbands....and the Spitfires and Grim Reapers don't.

HANKFAN 11-01-2004 09:33 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
My vote is for the Scorpion XP's. I have used just about every mechanical out there and
I always end up with 4 Scorpion XP's in my quiver every November morning. I have 100% confidence in this head.

TFOX 11-01-2004 10:43 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
The 2 you listed are the best for lower energy setups.


The Spitfire's are one of the worst for low energy setups.Over the years that I have been drifting in and out of this forum,that seems to be the biggest complaint about the Spitfires.I also have noticed many of the hunting shows that use them seem to never get a passthrough.Even with setups that you would think should have no problems.

5 shot 11-02-2004 02:33 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
Most "broadhead failures" are really hunter failures. It's either bad shot placement, picking the wrong head for your individual setup or some other factor that the hunter did not consider. Spittfires will get the job done, but they do require more KE than many other heads. They have a large cut and open slower, therefore they tend to not penetrate as well as smaller heads. If you have plenty of KE it's not big deal, but if your "under gunned" or on the edge and you hit bone or have a hard quartering shot you may not get full penetration. In order to recommend a head for you I need to know more about your setup. Draw weight, length, arrow speed and weight if you know them. With this info we can make an informed choice on what broadhead would best suit your setup.

Rickmur 11-02-2004 02:37 AM

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3shot, 5shot is the man on broadheads, welcome to the board.

Rich Baker 11-02-2004 05:31 AM

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Just shoot thunderhead 125's and be done with it

PABowhntr 11-02-2004 05:58 AM

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Despite the blade sharpness and short number of thread issues I will still offer up the Rocket Steelhead 100 as my personal favorite mechanical. Its short overall length, modest cutting diameter and one piece solid steel ferrule allow it to provide awesome penetration and very good entrance and exit wounds.

I took a buck and a doe this year with that head and am totally confident in its performance.

By most accounts the 125 grain version is even more reliable.

royak 11-02-2004 06:06 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
I have used the Shockwave 100's for the past several years. I have never lost a deer and 99% have expired within 50 yds. I know I have taken at least 15 deer with them in fact I have taken 5 with the same head with only sharpening the blades. I love them . Give them a try you will really like them but as stated they are only as good as the archer behind them.

Eider 11-02-2004 06:58 AM

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The last 11 deer I shot were with NAP Spitfires and one was with the new Spitfire XP. No deer went farther than 30 yards. In fact the two I shot this year droped only 20 yards away. Shot placement is key. The first deer had pass through and took out both lungs. The second deer this year did not have pass through but I clip the heart, the arrow was stuck in part of the shoulder, she droped 20 yards away. Some people have questioned my set up as being to light for these broadheads. I dis agree based on my succes. Here is what I shoot. Jennings Trophy Master at 60lbs draw, 26" draw length, ACC 128's with 100gr Spitfires. It works great for me. I will continue to shoot spitfires and spitfireXPs. Just my 2 cents

cardeer 11-02-2004 09:56 AM

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Gee , the spitfires work great for me. The deer I shot this year had a 3 inch exit hole with lungs hanging out of it

Big John 11-02-2004 10:06 AM

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I too have used spitfires the last several years, 8 deer, 3 turkeys, 2 red fox, with large holes and good blood trails.

CBM SC 11-02-2004 10:11 AM

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Lot of good ones but Spitfires are my favorite............but I have 76# of KE ! Here's a pic of the exit on a doe I shot a few weeks ago !


buckmasterg2xl 11-02-2004 10:18 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
i started using a mechanical called a Vortec this season. i ordered them from Cabellas. they are a 2 bladed mechanical with a very wide cutting surface (over 2" i think). i shoot a lower poundage bow and they have worked well for me. no pass throughs but very good blood trial.

HuntingBry 11-02-2004 10:25 AM

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I have used a number of mechanicals. I have used the old Punchcutters, Bloodtrailers, Rocky Mt. Revolution, Rocky Mt. Snypers, Rocket Steelheads, Rocket Sledgehammers, and now NAP Spitfires. I have taken deer with all but the Bloodtrailers. The ones I would recommend the most are the Snypers and the Spitfires. Rocket broadheads are good too, but as stated earlier the blades need attention before hunting.

NHBuck 11-02-2004 03:20 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
Well since it is up for discussion and this is my first year back seriously bowhunting I'll throw out a plea for suggestions.

I am pulling 63 lbs at a 30 inch draw with Easton Gamegetter 2117 aluminum arrows from a Bear compound with 100 grain heads. I picked up some mechanicals since I hadn't shot in a few years and was not sure how long I'd last due to shoulder injury and if I'd have time to retune the Muzzy's. I used to pull 68lbs but couldn't do it this fall. The mechanicals I picked up fly just like my field tips. They are made by Allen and are their spider 3 blade mechanicals with a 1 1/2 inch cutting diameter. Looking for experience or suggestions. I am hunting Jersey Thanksgiving weekend and want to be sure of humane kills. Obviously placement is crucial but looking for suggestions. I am not against changeing broadheads as I still have at least 4 or 5 practice sessions to go before I leave.

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atlasman 11-02-2004 05:39 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
WASP JAK-HAMMER's are a nice little mechanical head as well. They offer a smaller diameter for lower energy setups and they did a number on the buck I shot. Didn't get a passthrough though and so I had a tough blood trail..........drips at best.

At the end of that track job I decided right then and there that would be the LAST time I crawled on my hands and knees squinting for blood on a perfectly shot deer.

I have been shooting Magnus Stingers ever since and last week got to see how they did on a deer. The biggest problem I have now is struggling to pull the arrow out of the ground after a passthrough :) Like a hot knife through butter........and short GREAT blood trail.

Ken/WV 11-02-2004 08:11 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
You maybe interested in the Grim Reapers if you want to get rid of the rubberbands and still shoot a mechanical. They open a lot easier then the spitfire's if you shoot a low KE set up. Plus they cut a nasty hole, and fly like a field point. I love the motto as well....


Are you hunting bambi?
Or Godzilla?

LOL. Grim Reapers are bad. :D

dsheally 11-02-2004 11:48 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
5 shot hit the nail right on the head with his answer. Well said.

SumHunter 11-03-2004 12:40 AM

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Started using Rocky Mountain's Gator XP this year. Have shot two deer so far with them (both were good shots), and neither one ran more than 50 yards. No "O" Rings and the blades come up from the bottom .

motown 11-03-2004 04:39 AM

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i have been shooting spitfires since i started hunting. i lost one buck and that was my shot placement. spitfires do DAMAGE!! it looks like you get them witha 12 G shot gun! if you have the KE stick with the spitfires i just got the new spitfires with the blade tip on them and i cant wait to use one on a deer:).

3 Shot 11-03-2004 06:29 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
I am shooting a Mathews LX at 65lbs w/ 29" Gold Tip 55/75, I am shooting around 275fps with a 100gr Field Point.

oneshot 1 11-03-2004 01:05 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
On Mechanicals I would say speed has a lot to do with how they work.I've had good luck with both 125gr.Rockets and Vortex.

Here is a pic of the exit wound on a big Deer killed at 30 yards with a Vortex Broadhead.

oneshot


Greavous 11-03-2004 02:30 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
This is the exit of a 125 Spitfire from last years best buck. I also whacked a doe with a shockwave and both were dead within 40 yards. Neither arrow passed all the way through and exited the animal but both went through both sides. I'm sure the energy is absorbed when opening and slows the arrow to a stop. I got a bit of shoulder on the doe. Both wrecked my arrows. Both tasted very good.


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deerslayer52089 11-03-2004 03:01 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
the Wasp Jack-Hammer SST 125's will not fail you, just try them and see and then email me with what u think about them [email protected]

buttonbuckmaster 11-03-2004 03:24 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
Grim Reapors are what I use and love them. BIG hole on exit.

3 Shot 11-03-2004 05:45 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
Oneshot 1: Was the Vortex the 3-blade?

Everbody has so many opinions, and everybody mentions a lot of different mechanicals, a lot of you guys like the spitfires, maybe I might try some 125gr Spitfires, or the Rocky Mtn Snypers, maybe the Grim Reapers, or all of them and see which I like best!

Carpmaster 11-03-2004 06:32 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
I think that there are a lot of good ones out there but from what ive seen heads made by rocket open up the easiest of all.

Kelly/KY 11-03-2004 06:45 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
By far the Rocky Mtn Gator XP is the best and least apt to fail.

3 Shot 11-03-2004 07:08 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
kcison: I just ordered the Snypers, which are very similar to the Gator XP, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these mechanicals, both have the Cam Action Design, I think the Snyper will penetrate better for my setup given the smaller 1 3/8" opening considered to the Gators 2". Both look like awesome b-heads, but I have heard a lot of great stuff about the Snypers, and we will see in a few days when I get them.

Hopefully before this weekend, so maybe I can try them out!

oneshot 1 11-03-2004 07:22 PM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
3 Shot No The Vortex was 2 Blade.I was realy surprised I was over on another Forum some Guys was testing different Broadheads shooting them through different things a checking penatration.I was realy suprised how they Vortex held up.

oneshot 1

PYseeker 11-04-2004 06:57 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
I know that mechanical's are widely used these days, shoot I use to use them. But after one lost deer i learned my lesson. I would say use those muzzy's you have. I use muzzy 100'3 three blade and they just plain work. We owe it to the game we pursue to do it quickly and efficently. just my 2 cents. Stay fixed blade!!

Shoulder Shot 11-04-2004 07:45 AM

RE: The Best Mechanical
 
Shoot the muzzys they are proven equip. for me . I shoot 100gr 4 blade and have had good results. Just remember you always have to make a good shot with arrow or bullet to get excellent results. Ive lost deer with gun and bow.


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