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Trushot_archer 10-25-2004 11:35 AM

Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
Last season I went with 2315's and a 125 Magnus Snuffer (BIG HEAD) and had issues with penetration even with 63-64 lbs of KE. 2 deer no pass through but mega blood and easy trails from the entrance alone.

This year I went the other direction with a smaller head, 75 grain Rocket Ultimate Steel and lighter carbons. Total arrow weight last year was 525grains and this year I'm at about 370grains.

I have passed through everything I've shot (by quite a bit) but have meager blood on all 3 deer so far. I have a 1" cutting diameter but the deer yesterday bled only about 1 ounce in 40 yards and had no visible exit wound whatsoever. I only found it by air expelling from it when I rolled her over. Passed through taking both lungs...only went 35-40 yards and toppled...but not enough blood if I would have had to track farther.

Shot a doe later that day (yes I had 2 doe tags and it's perfectly legal in Mi. to shoot a dozen a day if you have the tags so chill) and same thing only...didn't fall in 40 yards and I never found it as the blood was nearly non existent.

My question is this...

Anyone have issues with these new compact heads and blood trails or am I in the minority here??

If there are other issues I'll go mechanical but if it's just me I'll chalk it up to "fluke" so far.

deadshot 10-25-2004 12:36 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
trushot ive been shooting muzzy 75grains for 4 years and i have never had a problem with either pass throughs or blood trails, matter of fact on 3rd nite of the season i shot a doe at about 15 yrds was a double lung hit and not only did she exspire rather quickly at about 40 yrds
but a blind man could have followed her blood trail, i wouldnt worry to much i think its just a fluke,

Double Creek 10-25-2004 12:56 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
I shot a doe earlier this year with the 100gr Rocket Ultimate Steel. I had a double lung pass through, but the blood trail was horrible and it took me 15 minutes to track her 60yds, where she was expired.

Last year I, like you, shot 2 blade magnus heads, 4 pass throughs, but the blood trails were scant.

The next deer I shoot will be getting a 3 blade muzzy.

Justin 10-25-2004 01:09 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
I'm using 100 grain 2 blade Magnus Stingers with a cutting diameter of 1 1/16". The doe I shot last night left a blood trail a blind man could've followed. I'm not necessarily convinced that the size of the hole is always a major contributing factor to the size of the blood trail. I think the sharpness of the head, combined with exactly what arteries and veins are cut are really what determines your blood trail. So many people are concerned with blowing a hole the size of a baseball through a deer with a huge expandable broadhead, when they should be concerned with where that broadhead is hitting.

Bees 10-25-2004 02:13 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 

I think the sharpness of the head, combined with exactly what arteries and veins are cut are really what determines your blood trail.
Good point, it's always been about arrow placement.


So many people are concerned with blowing a hole the size of a baseball through a deer with a huge expandable broadhead, when they should be concerned with where that broadhead is hitting.
I have noticed that when I place a mechanical where it is supposed to be, I don't have to bend over to see the blood trail.
I have also noticed when I place a smaller fixed blade where it is supposed to be I have to bend over to see the blood trail.

BobCo19-65 10-25-2004 02:17 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 

I have noticed that when I place a mechanical where it is supposed to be, I don't have to bend over to see the blood trail.
I have also noticed when I place a smaller fixed blade where it is supposed to be I have to bend over to see the blood trail.

To bend over or not to bend over - that is the question. :D:D:D

Bees 10-25-2004 02:19 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
I rather not bend over:D

BobCo19-65 10-25-2004 02:22 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
Me either. :D

tbonecpa 10-25-2004 02:24 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
I have used the 4blade 90 gr Muzzy for years and only shot one deer that didn't have a blood trail. I shot him quartering to me and the fat and intestines blocked the exit hole. Every other trail was very obvious. I used a shockwave mechanical last year and that had a large exit and entrance wound. The exit hole didn't surprise me but the entrance sure did.

Antler Eater 10-25-2004 02:48 PM

RE: Smaller heads and Blood trails
 
Over the years I have taken deer with 26 different kinds of broadheads (some are variations from the same manufacturer. For example a three blade head and/or a two blade or a four blade). Ranging in the size of the cut from 7/8" cut to in excess of 2".

To be honest I don't like either end of the extremes for various reasons. A deer hit in the right spot will bleed good with any reasonable size hole.

Obviously the larger the cut the better the chance of hitting arteries/vitals on a marginal hit. However even the "best" head in the world, can't make up for a poorly placed shot.


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