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ButchA 08-15-2004 07:42 AM

Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
Good morning....

Yesterday, I was at the annual Sportsman Show here in Richmond, VA http://www.sportsmanshow.com. I always go every year and drool over new stuff, trophy deer mounts, ATV's, latest camo clothing, etc...etc...

Anyway, I saw the weirdest, most bizarre looking, bow sight that some guy was hawking from his booth. {Mods: please don't delete this - I am not spamming or anything} The bow sight company's sales pitch was "Put a rifle sight on your bow". I mean, I was like HUH???? So I had to walk over to see for myself.

The bow sight is called "Eradicator". I has two tritium dot sights in the rear and one tritium dot sight in the front about 4-5" inches away. There is no need for a kisser buttons, there is no need for a peep sight, yada yada yada yada..... :eek:

http://www.eradicator.com

Has anyone ever heard of a bow sight like this? How can this possibly work? I grabbed a brochure, then politely walked away. I am happy and content with my Tru-Glo 3 pin sights, thank you. Eradicator? No thanks....

Butch A.

comndr45 08-15-2004 08:18 AM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
There's been a couple of these sights around for a few years. I had one (Hindsight) and found it was a pain to set up for me. There was one with a V-notch in the rear and I think you used your regular 20 yd. pin up front. Eradicator has been around for a few years. I forget the names of the others that I've seen, so you can see the impression they made on me.

Dave Solgat 08-15-2004 08:19 AM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
My dad had the exact same sight design on his bow 15 years ago but it had a round ring on the back and a pin in front. Lots of work to set up but he shot ok with it. I think I still have it laying around so if I find it I will post a pic. of it. Looks almost identical but steel instead of aluminum.

Deerslayer_37 08-15-2004 10:06 AM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
mitch rompola uses them. still killing slobs he is..

slayer

Paul L Mohr 08-15-2004 10:56 AM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
It works pretty much just like the Hindsite does, except with the hind site you can use multiple pins. There are other sights on the market like this one, I forget the names, I think one is the Yikes sight or something like that. You could make something like this fairly easy with basic machining tools.

I've used the hindsite, and made a sight simular to this one. I have a NO Peep on my bow now. To be honest, I think a regular peep is more accurate and more forgiving. It just has dissadvantages like weight on the string, not lining up at full draw without some adjustments, and the low light visability thing.

All of these can be argued however. As far as a peep not lining up, that's a bunch of a crap with the newer strings. Once your string is shot in, all you have to do is get the peep in the string correctly so it rotates to the right position, or use a string loop. String stretch is not really an issue any more. It takes a bit of tinkering, but not any more than getting one these sights set up. They can be a real pain sometimes.

Weight on the string, well the amount it will slow your bow down is pretty minimal. Especially if you use a lighter peep. I highly doubt it will change your trajectory any. If anything depending on how you sight with the peep it will move your pins closer together. Your bow will not be any faster, it's a geometrics/optical thing.

And as far as light gathering capabilities, if you get a large enough hunting peep that shouldn't be a problem either. At least not at legal hunting hours any way. Those last few minutes of "light" that everyone talks about are usually twilight and past the legal hunting hours for that day in most cases. At least technically, but hey I hunt it as well.

I don't agree with the statement that your form isn't an issue out of a stand or anything like that. I read that on the web site somewhere. You still need to bend at the waste and have proper form in order to shoot accurately. I don't care what type of sight you use. After playing with the NO Peep for a while I've found with a consistant anchor you really don't need a peep sight at all at hunting distances.

I like the sight picture this thing gives you with tritanium or what ever it's called. Looks like my buddies glock. I would prefer a multiple pin set up though. As far as it being more accurate because it sights the same way as a pistol, I don't know about that. I think my bow is more accurate than most pistols I have owned.

As far as sights go, this thing is pretty butt ugly too. It really looks like something someone went out in thier garage and made on a mill or something. Of course the old Hindsights didn't look much better really.

Paul

liquidorange 08-15-2004 11:32 AM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
i switched to the eradicator years ago and will never use a peep again.makes sence to me. similar sights as my muzzleloader and the tritium dots is un beat in low light. i cant see a peep being more accurate because it isint fixed and has flex to it. the rear site on the eradicator is in fixed spot every time like a rifle. as far as hunting goes the eradicator is in a different league;)

Arthur P 08-15-2004 05:19 PM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 

i cant see a peep being more accurate because it isint fixed and has flex to it.
If your theory was correct, then this is the only kind of sight you'd see on unlimited 3D rigs. The fact that you NEVER see them on an unlimited 3D rig should give you a clue.

Sight radius means exactly the same thing with bow sights that it means with muzzleloader sights. The longer the sight radius, the more accurate the aim. Obviously, the sight radius you get with a peep is a LOT longer than what you get with that short little bracket.

IMO, these kinds of sights are nothing more than archery curiosities. A gizmo with limited usefulness. Something to play around with. Too many other, and far better, alternatives to choose from, so they'll never make a big splash.

liquidorange 08-15-2004 06:12 PM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
i understand that the longer site length ( distance from front to rear) the more accurate it should be like on a gun be but at my hunting ranges under 30 yards its more than accurate enough. for instance the sights on my revolver are more than good enough out to 50 yards and that site length is shorter than my eradicator . you have to understand though the peep on a string is subject to string flex and where you hold back and anchor and if you use a draw stop or hold against the wall and such . thats where practice and form come into play. there are competition models of this type of rifle site that are much longer. there is a pro shop in honesdale pennsylvania called altier archery that makes them and he has quite a few trophys on the shelf. i dont think rifle sites on a bow will ever totaly replace pins and peep. one thing i have noticed (not that it matters) if i pick someones bow up with pins and a peep and shoot a few i can never shoot the same place on the target as the owner of that bow. if i shoot my brothers bows with an eradicator site i hit where he does. just something i noticed. if rifle sites are good enough for guys like TOM MIRANDA AND MITCH and im sure they can have any site they would like that sounds great to me. all i can say is when i go hunting or to the range i get more WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE? questions more often than not. maybe if they were in cabelas they would sell more:)

davidmil 08-15-2004 06:46 PM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
They and a couple others with the same basic principle have been around for some time. If you think about it... it's a stupid idea. Instead of having your two sight plains 28-32 inches apart... they move them up so they're only 10 inches apart or less. ANy error in aiming WILL be exaggerated and magnified down range. If this principle had a hills worth of beans to it's merit... we'd move our front rifle sights back about 2 feet..[&:]:eek:[:'(]

JOE PA 08-15-2004 07:27 PM

RE: Ever heard of this weird bow sight???
 
My experience with the Eradicator leads me to think that the idea sounds better than it actually works. I found the sight to give me OK accuracy, but the sight is not adjustable, so you have to learn some type of compensation system if you want to shoot past say 20-25 yards. Of course, I had it on a bow that was not exactly a speed demon, so that might have been a factor in my opinion. I didn't have the tritium version, so the "luminescent" dots were reasonably visible in low light in the evening, but almost invisible in the morning, unless I "charged them up" with a flashlight. I shoot better with a No-Peep, or even a small wrap of orange thread on my string to line up with my pin guard than I did with the Eradicator.


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