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george_s 08-12-2004 07:00 PM

spirit of the wild
 
watching Spirit of the Wild...Ted put 2 bad hits on an elk. it just went to commercial. i'll let u know what happened

george_s 08-12-2004 07:05 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
ok, both shots to the leg bone(one on either side), maybe 2" too far forward. but he got enough penetration and did recover it. whew

ShadowAce 08-12-2004 07:05 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
I'll bet he makes a 70 yard heart shot!

Stalker22 08-12-2004 07:06 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
TWO BAD HITS! Ted's usualy a good shot. Especialy since he has them walk right up and say "SHOOT ME SHOOT ME!!!"
Please do elaborate.... what went wrong and what happened?

JimboHunter1 08-12-2004 08:10 PM

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George, I flipped to Spirit of the Wild and saw the left side shoulder hit. Was that the first shot or the second? Never did see the recovery because I was bouncing around between that and the pre-season Ravens game.

george_s 08-13-2004 05:58 AM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
his 1st shot was 30 yds broadise to the right shoulder bone. the elk started to run and it looked like the arrow just fell out 5 yds later. the elk stopped and you could see a little blood (not much at all) coming from the hit. it turned around and stopped (this was at 60 yds) and he put another in the opposite shoulder bone. ted found the 1st arrow after the commercial and it has 8" broken off, so it got alot more penetration than i looked on camera. after the recovery he said both sides penetrated. i know he shoots a light poundage bow. seeing those 2 hits made me cringe, but he sure came though. thats why he gets the big $$$:D

justhunt 08-13-2004 06:04 AM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
Maybe they edited the part when the gun went off to finish the job. I'm not impressed with his videos...but I like "Fred Bear".

rybohunter 08-13-2004 06:35 AM

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I saw the show, he hit low and forward with the 1st shot. Real time watching it didn't look like it went in far at all. He put another shot in just about the same area from 70 some yards away on the opposite side. It was enough to take the bull down. He did what he needed to get a good outcome of a not so perfect situation.

mstein26888 08-13-2004 06:40 AM

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I just called my wife and told her about the discussion on the board. I bet her last night that there would be debate about the shot placement and penetration of the elk's leg bone. I didn't agree with his thinking that 8 " of arrow was enough to get to the elk's pump station. I was very surprised with his shot, usually he is right on the mark. Too bad he didn't take that opportunity to emphasis or admit that everyone misses the mark sometimes, but you need to make sure you do everything you can to ethically harvest the animal.

BobCo19-65 08-13-2004 07:09 AM

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Gee, I guess I saw that differently. Yes the first shot was forward a little, but like he said (and it is true), that is where the exactly where heart is. A couple inches back, and he would have had an unobstructed shot to the heart. At first I didn't think he got good penetration, but on the replay, you could see the arrow snap when the Elk stumbled. He got enough to hit heart IMO on the first shot.
The second shot was at 75 yards. again, he went though the shoulder. I don't know if he got enough penetration on that one though.

Would I purposely shoot where Ted put the arrow? No.

Jeez, I'm defending Ted now.......

Last word, I still don't totally understand why Ted always seems to take heart shots. Especially when there is so much more to aim at with the lungs.

Charlie P 08-13-2004 08:20 AM

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If you go to Nugents web site the"Nuge " posted a thread"you wanna see a 75 yard heart shot?"

One of his comments:

the 75 yd elongated Yingness of it all was merely a parlayance of mystical subsonic flingability of the Great Spirit & mystical flight of my beloved arrow. silence but deadly Tedly. the ultimate fear factor! the thump of course was the culmination of my sacred shopping for straps. The beast has landed. twice tonite.
He's not too full of himself is he?

Charlie P 08-13-2004 09:04 AM

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This is how Uncle Ted describes the hunt in his article.

In one smooth ballet of archery motion, I swung on the massive shoulder of this new bull, said my prayer for the wildthings just as his huge foreleg stretched ahead, and in an instant my all-white arrow covered the 35 yards straight into his upper leg on a direct path to his pumpstation. I have never heard such a sharp WHACK in all my WhackMaster life, and the monster bull slammed to the ground like he was pole axed by a .460 Weatherby Magnum! It was stunning to say the least.

The instantaneous dirtdive put him nose first into a heap in the frosty Texas puckerbrush of bluestem grasses and scrubby vegetation. It was awe-inspiring. On video you will see how he wildly bulldozed himself for 40 yards with only his hind legs driving him on. At the same moment, he stood back up at 70-plus long yards out, and my second white arrow was already on its way, connecting on video for the whole world to see. It hit in the exact same spot as the first arrow, only on the left side this time.

Once again, the 500-grain arrow knocked him off his feet, the razorsharp Magnus four-blade Stinger broadhead slicing clean through the rock like leg bone, penetrating the heavy chest and cutting straight into the beast's heart from the opposite side. WOW! Ronnie and I were dumbfounded and stared silently at the now quiet brushline of brambles whence the beast had vanished from.

We rejoiced a short while later at sharing a most moving moment in time. Recovering and handling the animal on film had a life of its own, certainly solemn. Examining the two arrow hits was something we will never forget, and we remain humbled by the entire episode. I'm sure that everyone who sees this on TV or tape will feel the same awe we did right then and there. There are many lessons to be learned with each hunt and particularly with each kill.

I guess he could have hit it where ever he wanted, just would have had to cahse it around the enclosure.Can you feel it,can you feel the spirit.

BeltedMag 08-13-2004 12:54 PM

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Ted usually makes really good hits, i guess everyone has their bad days even the whackmaster. He is still a big hero of mine though, and love him or hate him he does try to help out the hunting cause. A friend of mine at work spent a few hours talking to him at a big NRA banquet and Ted invited him and his dad to go hunting in Africa with him, that would be so cool. Just wish there was more hunting and less other stuff on his show.

Dave

ShadowAce 08-13-2004 08:02 PM

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If he didn't talk like that he be just another rich, boring, deer hunting schlub! It's his "schtick" and he plays it up. Hell, if I had to talk like that to keep making money, I'd do it to!

Bowdaddy 08-13-2004 08:42 PM

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His show isn't programmed into my Tivo, but I do get a chance to check him out from time to time. He is definitely unique. He makes me laugh.:D
Whether you like him or not he's one hell of an ally to have lobbying congress, fighting to protect our hunting rights!!!

thenuge15 08-13-2004 08:46 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
I don't know why people always say its low if it hits in the heart region. An arrow doesn't have to hit right in the middle to be fatal.

JimboHunter1 08-13-2004 09:03 PM

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I don't know why people always say its low if it hits in the heart region. An arrow doesn't have to hit right in the middle to be fatal.
I guess it's because that's not the "meat" of the kill zone... The bottom of the chest isn't far away from the heart, so if you aim for the boiler room, you're much better off than aiming for the heart.

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-13-2004 10:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: mstein26888

. Too bad he didn't take that opportunity to emphasis or admit that everyone misses the mark sometimes, but you need to make sure you do everything you can to ethically harvest the animal.

Your absolutely right. Although Ted does more for hunting than probably anyone else in this country and although his tactics are sometimes extreme you have to respect the guy. He's in your face hunting, regardless of PC or what......but, he could at times tone it down and be Joe hunter.....I respect Ted to the utmost...but not a big fan of his show...to much pen shot animals on the YO ranch......

thenuge15 08-13-2004 11:13 PM

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Jimbo if you hit low on a heart shot you miss and if you hit high you hit lung. If you aim dead center and hit high you can hit a deer high and just wound it. I would rather miss then wound.

JimboHunter1 08-14-2004 07:42 AM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
Either shot is fine. No matter where you are aiming (heart, lung, etc.) you need to be accurate. Heart shots are just fine. I personally prefer lung shots with a bow because I want to do my best to avoid hitting the shoulder.

legacy22 08-14-2004 09:15 AM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
I dunno what to say besides........ wang bang sweet poontang.

Wolf killer 08-14-2004 04:23 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
The first shot Ted made was perfect. The heart on a elk is protected by the front shoulder. The penetration he got was typical of a bow shot elk, with his set up. You have to take into account he only shoots his bow @ 53-pounds. His arrows are 600-grains. He has a big slow set up. He is the one with the hunting show not me. I choose to shot a heavy arrow but I also have my bow set @ 72-pounds.

liquidorange 08-14-2004 10:22 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 
TED RULES!!! im reminded of a phrase my buddy keeps telling me, jealousy will kill a man!!!! getOVER IT!!!!!!!

george_s 08-15-2004 07:39 PM

RE: spirit of the wild
 

The first shot Ted made was perfect. The heart on a elk is protected by the front shoulder. The penetration he got was typical of a bow shot elk, with his set up.
i guess that makes sense. ive never hunted elk.


TED RULES!!! im reminded of a phrase my buddy keeps telling me, jealousy will kill a man!!!! getOVER IT!!!!!!!
You got me wrong, i'm not railing on ted, but i was alarmed at the shots. he has a choice to show or not show the footage. to the "not so expert" hunters like me, it looked like a bad hit. but he did get a second shot and recover it.


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