WHICH CARBON ARROW IS BEST?
 

:eek:I AM SWICHING TO CARBON ARROWS, AND I HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN TO 2 CHOICES. EITHER THE CARBON EXPRESS CX HUNTER 300, OR THE EASTON AXIS 340. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THE EASTON AXIS IS MUCH NARROWER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL EFFECT THINGS. ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON WHICH ARROW IS BETTER???

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Not to mention, many people are having spine retaining issues.

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I am using axis 400s,All I can say is WOW!
Great penatration, increased speed.

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iv been shooting both carbon express and PSE carbon force and have to say i like the pse carbon forces better. but my bow shop has different arrows you can try out in their archery range so if you can do that i would highly recomend that.:D

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Carbon Express is by far the better of the two arrows.

I shoot CX300's myself and they are the best I have used thus far. I will be trying their terminator selects here soon simply because I want a heavier arrow than the CX. I also really like the PSE carbon force extremes as well.

I have not tried the Axis arrows but I have tried other Easton/ Beman (same company) arrows and IMHO they are junk.

I also can not fathom how the axis shaft with the HIT insert thingy can be very strong at the tip. It seems to me that a shaft that has its insert glued inside the shaft from the tip back would be much stronger than a shaft that has no insert at the end of the shaft. A glued in insert should help to hold together the shaft on hard hits.

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WHICH CARBON ARROW IS BEST?

The aluminum one.

Clint

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There is not a carbon shaft on the market without those issues. Many people may not admit it, but the main reason they change to carbon arrows are because they can generally shoot them longer. Top grade aluminums are hard to beat for straightness BUT......that straightness doesn't last long if they are shot much. And aluminums may even get bent carrying them in a quiver or while laying on your lap in the stand. I'd venture to say that the average archer will get longerstraight shooting life out of a dozen carbons than he would using a dozen good aluminums.

By the way......I've shot and hunted with Easton Carbon Evolutions and am very satisfied. Personally I don't care much for the Korean made shafts and Bob Eastman.

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Isn't Easton going over seas as well. I haven't heard much about it lately but I remember something about this a while back because of the taxes they pay by manufacturing their shafts here in the USA.

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i have blackhawk vapors and i love em. once i bought my first half dozen my groupings got better and ive stuck with em ever since

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I did a test last week with my axis 340's. I bought a dozen in april and have shot 6 of them almost daily. last week I bought 6 more and shot them. If you were to look at the groups you couldn't tell which were the new or the old. So needless to say, I haven't experienced any problem SO FAR with lack of spine retention.

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Out of both, id say the easton axis arrows. But, in my opinion, you cant beat a gold tip.

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Easton Acc's spend the money their worth it.

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I have no complaints about my CX300's and yes I have stuck them into more than just foam!:D My practice arrows are well over a year old and shoot the same as the arrows I load in my quiver come fall.

My hunting partner swears on beamans, so I think it is a matter of finding the right mix for you. Then again it might be a poor example, he also likes Mathews too, so I'm not to sure their is any reasoning in the mans head;)

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Does anyone have any experience with the Redhead series by Bass Pro? They didn't carry the Gold Tips talked about on this board and the archery pro suggested I consider the Red Head Carbon Maxx, which is their premium series. Rated straightness is .003, 1 grain consistency between arrows and has the Radial Weave vs. wrapped construction. Obviously one of the major manufacturers makes them for Bass Pro but I don't know who for sure. He says it is Carbon Express, and based on his comments, I suspect he is right.

what do you think?

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Oh no... having that old guy syndrome flashback... er... ahhh.... frrrpt... can't... stop myself... PULTURUDED CARBONS!!!!!!! Phew... I feel better now. :)

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Well i agree lou-lou but they are not that good on big deer as far as penetration. i hunted with the A/C/C 3-49 and shot a 300 lb whitetail last season and was not happy with the penetration so this year i am gonna be shooting the Easton ST Axis 340 , i really like the way these arrows fly and hit , i have had NO problems with the Axis arrows . Oh by the way that deer dressed out at 240 lbs scored 147 08/ P&Y 12 point public land deer

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Twisted,
Confused about that statement? Don't expect a noticeable difference in penetration between those 2 shafts........you've only gained less than 20grs total arrow weight (I think 18.5grs to be exact) in the switch, and the difference in diameter is minimal as well.
The main difference is that a 3-49 is a .390 spine deflection shaft vs the .340 spined Axis. (An A/C/C 3-60 would be a better match to the Axis 340)


If you had poor penetration on a good hit with your 3-49's I wouldn't look to the Axis340 as a magic bullet, those shafts will be quite close in performance on game.........I would look to other components like a better penetrating broadhead design.

What are your bow's overall specs? A 27" arrow tells me that maybe a 28" draw? What draw weight? A 300lb whitetail and a sub 400gr finished arrow weight (depending upon the bow set-up) don't always mix.;)

Not knocking your choice in arrows.......there's just not enough difference between the 2 you mentioned on paper to justify the switch based upon penetration issues.

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Shot placement?

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NO QUESTION! I would shoot the CX 300s. I am shooting 5575 Gold Tips now (a great arrow!:)), but I shot CX 300s before and never had problems!

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Bow Fanatic it was a 37 yard quartering away shot that hit in the lungs & cutting the heart passing thru to he far shoulder stopping there . it was a great hit .

the a/c/c weighed in @ 355.2 i was pulling 58 lbs.
the axis weighes in @ 381.5 i am pulling 64 lbs

thats not adding feathers which is about 24 grains

go to bowsite.com look under whitetail go to ohio look under the name riley you will see the hole and you will not question shot placement on that deer .

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Sounds like a great shot! For 37 yards and hitting the far shoulder I think your asking too much to expect a complete pass thru.[&:]

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you could be right about expecting too much , i am use to shooting these small deer here in North Carolina , a pass thru is the common , but the deer in Ohio are far larger than i expected.

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If i were him i would look into redhead's carbon maxx these are the exact same as the CXs (made by gametracker) but cheaper they actually are a very good arrow

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I have shot both of the arrows you mentioned , and would chose the cx arrows myself , they shot more consistant for me .

Of coarse the best answer to your question
WHICH CARBON ARROW IS BEST?
is , The one with alluninum in the middel:D

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A C&P from AT

And I'm not even taking into account things like ID & OD tolerances, components, longevity of straightness or spine..

They all kind of suck in their own way, and they all excel in their own way.

I initially was very impressed with the ST AXIS for example...then the problems showed up and I went elsewhere for a bit...but because of the penetration, and how well they shoot (when they are straight), I may just end up full circle for hunting season. Some things about them suck, but sometimes the advantages outweight the disadvantages for the job at hand. In this case, I'm willing to buy a couple or three dozen and weed out the bad, and I won't be pounding them come hunting season, so It will be less likely I have issues to the same degree as when I was shooting them for couple hundred shots a week.

Carbon arrows have a ways to go yet...

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I shoot axis 400 gr. I was at a seminar were they shot it into a steel door and they didnt scratch!

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well i have heard many of times the best arrow out on the market is the easton acc...which i disagree with as of yesterday...i bought a dozen beman venture 400's and i tell u... what a great arrow!! if u want to invest ur money in a good arrow put ur trust in a beman venture 400!! great flight and great penetration..

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I would go with the CEs. I shoot Terminator Selects and I love em.