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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I would go with Carbon Express. They are currently the strongest shaft on the market with the best ability to reduce oscillation after the shot. But most importantly make sure the arrows are spined correctly to your setup. They run about $90. /dzn. But are well worth it. Your Easton Redlines are a bit old in technological years and Easton has made many improvements to their line since then...especially in durability. I could send you a video showing Carbon Express in direct comparison with the other top manufacturers if you like. They beat them all hands down. However, if you are a Made in the USA kind of guy...go with Gold Tip...they are the straightest and strongest ones Made in the States...Easton/Beman being a very close second (lacking only in the straightness factor) with Blackhawk Vapors a good third(they are very straight...but not as durable as I would have liked to have seen).
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I currently shoot CX300's they seem to be accurate and tough.
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
Easton c2 carbon
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
carbon all the way 80% of the time - the other 20% is ACC's which are a combo.
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I have shot both, I started with carbons as a matter of fact. I got a half dozen Arrow dynamics nitro stingers with my bow when I bought it. They were good arrows, I liked them. They are just hard to get a hold of is all. I played with several other carbons, they all shot fairly well. Then I tried some aluminums just for the heck of it. That is pretty much all I will shoot now. After doing some research and a lot of reading on forums like this I don't think the carbons are all that they are made out to be, especially the inexpensive ones.
I shoot aluminums because the have the best tolerances for the money. You can buy cheap old gamegetter xx75 green arrows and they have better tolerances and are more consistant than most carbons. I have heard too many stories about spine not being consistant, or arrows not being straight right out of the box. When you buy a dozen arrows and 3 or 4 of them are a little off before you even use them, I think I'll pass. Not that I shoot well enough that I could tell a difference, it's just a mental thing I guess. I'm not saying all carbons are junk and they shoot like crap. Actually every carbon arrow I have used has shot just fine and I I didn't have any problems destroying them with other arrows. When people ask me about carbons I tell them two things. Get good ones, and get them stiff. The better ones are sorted a bit better. And the stiffer arrows are less likely to show spine inconsistancies. Plus aluminums are easier to work with if you like to build or repair your own arrows. And they work better on a prong rest with different fletchings (unless you are shooting skinny ones, I have shot skinnier aluminums than some carbons are). I currently shoot 2016's or 2213's. The 2016's are spined pretty close to what I need, and the 2213's are pretty stiff for my set up. I like stiff arrows though. I have shot smaller ones as well, for low poundage target stuff, or just goofing around. For goofing around when I had my bow turned down to like 40 lbs I was using 1816 jazz's with feathers. And a few years ago when I tried indoor spots I was trying all kinds of crazy stuff. I was shooting 1714 X7's at 22 inches with feathers. Sounds weird, but they actually flew pretty well. I should clarify that last statement and say that I only have like a 25 some inch draw and was shooting a muzzy Zero effect, which is an overdraw rest. That's still one short freakin' arrow. Everyone joked that the fletchings took up half the arrow. Paul |
RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I still use Easton XX75's in #2315. They work great in my old PSE Edge 1000C bow.
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
Currently use Carbon Express and they work fine for me...
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I've alway's and only hunted with Aluminum arrow's. Swear everyone tried talking me into carbon....But what I'm using I alway's get a compleat pass through...and am extreamly happy with em....Why fix it..if it ain't broke..
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RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
First off...DO NOT JUST GO OUT AND FIND AS STIFF OF AN ARROW AS POSSIBLE AND SHOOT IT OUT OF YOUR BOW!!!!! Properly choose an arrow that is spined acording to your set-up! AN ARROW THAT IS TOO STIFF WILL ALSO NOT FLY AS PROPERLY AS IT SHOULD!!! As straightness is concerned...Easton recommends that an arrow to be at least straight to .006 of an inch to be fine for any hunting application. Furthermore, ANY aluminum arrow after it has been shot 3 to 4 times into ANY 3-D target and removed has drastically changed its straigtness...up to a difference of -.003 of what it had been to start with. Yes, in more times than not an aluminum hunting arrow OUT OF THE BOX can be very straight...to .0015" (Superslam Selects ). This is due to the fact that aluminum can be straightened mechanically by a machine. However, the common arrow straightener devises out there do an ok job at keeping and arrow "shootable" but you will never achieve the original uniform straightness.
I do agree that one should buy a better made carbon over a "cheap" one. The difference in accuracy between a .003 straightness carbon and a .002 straightness aluminum (XX75 0r XX78) is unnoticable at any regular hunting distance. Carbons are just as easy to refletch and set up for any rest. You can even purchase carbons that are the same outside diameter as a 23 (i.e. 2315, 2317...) series aluminum. The only down side with carbons is that the inserts are not adjustable once installed. However, this would mean only a slight difference in the tuning process when tuning broadheads. Carbons will retain their straightness shot after shot Carbons will out penetrate an aluminum IN EVERY CASE (when shot from the exact same setup)! OVERALL...CARBONS ARE SUPERIOR TO ALUMINUMS. But if your aluminums shoot fine for you, or if you have an older bow (10+)...use them they are still a good arrow. |
RE: What shaft material do you currently hunt with?
I'm not going to get into a pissing contest about it, but I believe the opposite of pretty much everything you said to be true. And until someone can scientifically prove it otherwise to me I will continue to believe it. I have shot arrows that spined up to 100 lbs out of a 50 lb bow and they flew absolutely perfect, even with a fixed blade head. And I don't believe shooting an aluminum into a 3-d target will make it become less straight, unless you don't pull them correctly, or you bow is so out of tune and you have such long arrows that they are whipping around when they hit the target. I have however seen carbons get ruined by repeated shooting into 3-d targets. Mostly due to improper removal though. But it's much more common because they are so hard to get out if you don't lube them. Also I think because of the heat generated by friction when they enter the target. This could also be solved by lubing your arrows.
I didn't say carbons sucked and you should never use them. I just feel that aluminums have better quality control for the money is all. You will never talk me into beleiving different, as I will most likely not change your mind. That's the cool thing about archery. It's so opinionated. Almost like politics or religion sometimes. And I have worked with both aluminums and carbons, There is no freakin way carbon is as easy or easier than aluminum shafts. At least not to me any way. That being said, I may go back to carbons for a while. I am looking for something light to shoot out of my new bow. And that is what they excell at after all. I'm not really planning on hunting with it though. Paul |
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