Idaho bound
 

I just got an invite to hunt Idaho. I was afraid I was going to have to do a paid guided hunt. The bad news is that I'll have to wait until next season. I'm way too busy to fit in a week of hunting out west this fall. What is needed to get a bow liscense there? Is it only big bucks? Do I need to proove I can kill a chipmunk at 25 yards?

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No, You need to demonstrate you can successfully field dress a chipmonk without wasting any of the meat.:eek:

Sorry couldn't resist:)

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No, but you do have to have had hunter's safety. What will you be hunting? I will be going to Idaho this year for elk.

Dan

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Know a good recipie for chipmunk balls?

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It will be for elk. The minor problem is that the person who invited me doesn't bow hunt. Oh well. I guess I have a year to convert him or just hunt bow anyway.

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In Idaho you have to have an archery permit. Depending on how old you are you will have to take a class. Lucky for you I'm an instructor with the IDFG. Unlucky for you, I would never pass someone that doesn't have any ethics. Good luck finding someone who will.

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What area will you be hunting in?

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I hear they're a good substitute for meatballs in spaghetti...;)

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Luckey for me you will still be cooking in the kitchen.;)

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Right now I will be flyuing into Boise and from there I don't know. I just know that I will be taken care of. It won't be for another year though. I can't possibly fit another trip into my schedule.

I hate it when finacial responsibility gets in the way of having fun!

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If you were truely a bow instructor you should know that anyone who has hunted with a bow from any state is not required to take a course.;)


Check it out as I did.

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/license...waffidavit.cfm

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Aren't those something like rocky mountain oysters?

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You'll need an x-acto knife and 1/4 teaspoon of seasoned flour........

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Fieldrat,
Like I said, it depends on your age. Even if you have hunted archery in another state, if your birthday is after January 1, 1975 the course is required. And if I am in the kitchen during elk season then you are invited to dinner. Hope you like Decon.

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First sign you know you win the arguement they start the name calling and threats.:D

I guess I have to correct you once again. There is nothing stating you need an Archery course if born after July 1, 1975. The laws states all "NEW" hunters must have a hunters safety course if born after July 1, 1975. If you aren't a new hunter you don't need the course. If you have held a valid Archery only liscense in another state, you don't need to take the course you just need to fill out the above affidavit regardless of your birthday. BTW I quallify on both fronts.;)

If you care to learn your own hunting regs:

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/hunt/rules/bg/info.pdf

To think all this over my opportunity for an Idaho Elk Hunt.:eek:

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I believe that "other state" has to have the requirement of a safety course. I had to state that when I got my ID license a couple years ago, that NH required it.

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I guess I didn't see any name calling. Fieldmouse you are right, for this year anyway. If have a current out of state bow only hunting liceence then yes you can hunt Idaho. But that is going to change. The IDF&G are talking about making everyone in state and out of state alike that has never taken a arhery education cource take one. No matter how old or how long they have hunted with a bow. Not sure when or if they will inpose this rule. But it is on the planning board. With that said Idaho is a very restrictive state. In Idaho it is unlawful to hunt with a expanding broadhead, unlawful to hunt with a bow set at more than 65% let-off. Unlawful to hunt with a arrow less than 400 grains, and unlawful to hunt with any electronic or tritium-powered device attached to an arrow or bow. There are more rules but these are the big ones that get people into trouble every year! I know my wife (hikchick) might not know the rules by heart, but I assure you that she teaches archery education with me. If you don't believe me go ahead look at our proflle for our names and call the IDF&G at 208-525-7290 (Idaho Falls office) and ask them yourself. She was not trying to start a war but she like me worries about your hunting ethics or lack thereof.

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I guess you missed the Fieldrat comment.

Before you choose to accuse me of no hunting ethics, expirience the mid-atlantic hunting first. Just as you would consider a mouse or a rat to be a nuisance, we concider deer to be far worst. The are over populated by far and are a threat to humans. They spread disease and distruction. You can't even begin to imagine how bad it is here. My connection out west was shocked when he saw how bad it is..

As far as hunting regs. It would seem I pass with flying colors except my Red Dot Scope. I take it that it is illegal. I don't like expandables, my bow is 65% let off and I'm sure I'm covered for 400gr. arrows. I will be sure to verify before my trip out there. Thank you for the help.

I looking forward to a new animal to hunt.

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Rodents should stay with rodents, I say. And we aren't questioning your ethics. You put them out there for all to see and we all saw that you have none.

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That's an opinion coming from an instructor unfamiluar with the very regulations your suppose to be teaching. What you can't back up is with the facts. No where is there a post that I say take a bad shot, don't do all you can to track a shot animal, hunt before or after hours and so on. What I can point out is that there have been several post from people in the mid-atlantic area sick and tired of the deer. Several members hunt year round because the land owners consider deer to be Rodents. They call demanding the bow hunters kill more deer. If we don't the snipers do it in the middle of the night.

You got pissed because I stated I don't care for the shoulders. There has been other members who also don't care for shoulders. One shoots 25/yr and feeds his friends dog with the shoulder. I also stated that for now on I will make it a point to donate all my shoulders to Hunters for the Hungry, just like I have done with several deer. How many have you donated?

To recall those post lead to the following conclusion:

If you are totally ethical you eat everything Balls and All.
If you are a little less ethical you stop at the heart and liver.
Next level you eat hind qtrs, shoulders, back straps, tender loins and neck.
Just below that you don't harvest the neck and so on.

So where do you stand chick? How much do you harvest. Do the Balls taste like chicken?

To conclude I don't hold a grudge. You and/or your husband should expirience this first hand. This fall why don't you all take a vacation to the DC area. It's a nice family trip and I will take one of you hunting in one of my honey holes. You will see a minmum of 4 dozen deer with 2 dozen with in 25 yrds. Several 130 - 140 class bucks and atleast one or two monsters. I should also include about 4 dozen dead deer on the side of the road hit by the cars daily.

The last thing I will close with, I will be in Idaho in the fall of 2005 shooting one of your big bulls with my bow. No I don't plan on eating the meat (though I do like Elk) but I do plan on donating the whole thing to Hunters for the Hungry.

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That's an opinion coming from an instructor unfamiluar with the very regulations your suppose to be teaching. What you can't back up is with the facts. No where is there a post that I say take a bad shot, don't do all you can to track a shot animal, hunt before or after hours and so on. What I can point out is that there have been several post from people in the mid-atlantic area sick and tired of the deer. Several members hunt year round because the land owners consider deer to be Rodents. They call demanding the bow hunters kill more deer. If we don't the snipers do it in the middle of the night.

You got pissed because I stated I don't care for the shoulders. There has been other members who also don't care for shoulders. One shoots 25/yr and feeds his friends dog with the shoulder. I also stated that for now on I will make it a point to donate all my shoulders to Hunters for the Hungry, just like I have done with several deer. How many have you donated?

To recall those post lead to the following conclusion:

If you are totally ethical you eat everything Balls and All.
If you are a little less ethical you stop at the heart and liver.
Next level you eat hind qtrs, shoulders, back straps, tender loins and neck.
Just below that you don't harvest the neck and so on.

So where do you stand chick? How much do you harvest. Do the Balls taste like chicken?

To conclude I don't hold a grudge. You and/or your husband should expirience this first hand. This fall why don't you all take a vacation to the DC area. It's a nice family trip and I will take one of you hunting in one of my honey holes. You will see a minmum of 4 dozen deer with 2 dozen with in 25 yrds. Several 130 - 140 class bucks and atleast one or two monsters. I should also include about 4 dozen dead deer on the side of the road hit by the cars daily.

The last thing I will close with, I will be in Idaho in the fall of 2005 shooting one of your big bulls with my bow. No I don't plan on eating the meat (though I do like Elk) but I do plan on donating the whole thing to Hunters for the Hungry.

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What we teach is to be ethical and take all of the animal. Before you go judging me you should know that I HAVE eaten rocky mt. oysters and except for the texture they weren't all that bad. Your arrogant attitude is what makes hunters have a bad name. We teach that you have to speak intelligently about the sport. You don't do that. You brag it up as much as you can and then expect people to think you are a hero. If you check back you were the first to throw an insult about me being in the kitchen. Therefore, you lost the argument first. As for donating to the hungry, do you really think that you can make up for your idiocy by now saying I have to match you pound for pound? Give me a break! And I have been to DC. I KNOW how bad the problems are there. I have family there. Don't lecture me.... I'm not the uneducated one here. Just the ethical one. You can be a hunter without making yourself out to be a god. If you really have seen the error of your ways as far as taking the shoulders then I commend you. Now fix your attitude. It still stinks. You might be doing someone a favor by taking a deer but, you don't do anything for the sport of hunting by opening your mouth and spouting off how great you are. That is the surest way to make us believe otherwise. And by the way.... I have donated meat. Every year that we get an elk or 2 meat is donated to families that we know who are having a hard time putting food on the table. Don't pull a self-righteous attitude with me. It doesn't work for you.

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There you go your high ethics. Threatning to fail me before I get to your class rather then attempt to teach me as a real instructor would do.


Once again your opinion with no facts. Please show me where I have bragged about how good I am. I have answered a few post about my first kill with a bow and shoot two. I guess that was unethical. I have also bragged about the amount of deer I see every hunt but so have a lot of others. I have also responded to post that talked about how far I've taken shoots for deer again unethical. Maybe you didn't like my comment to Mlaubner on what to do with unborn deer from the Does this spring? I certainly don't think stuffing them is unethical. Leaving them in the gut pile I would feel to be even more unethical. A friend of mine has a pair they look great and besides it was DNR who sold them to him for doing full mounts. Again the post your ticked off about was whether or not to gut. I found out the most do but a handful don't take the time to do that. Thats what this form is about to better yourself through questions, but then again you know everything.

You also know fall 2005 I'll be in your back yard havesting one of your big bulls. ;););)

I'm sorry about that last comment. I guess I'm bragging again.:D

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If Hikchick is cooking in the kitchen during archery season? She filled her elk tag early in the season. I am sure she will gladly cook you an elk steak off of her elk.:D

I think that archery education is a JOKE. I took my hunters safety class years ago. I have never taken a archery education class. I was "grandfathered" in, I was bow hunting before they ever offered the class. You can not teach someone ethics in a 20-hour class. They either have them or they don't.
You also can not pass or fail someone because you do not like them. If they pass the test they pass the course.

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Hikchick:

I dont eat the neck meat, the ribs, the deer balls, the heart or the liver, and I dont eat the deer guts, does that make me "unethical"? lol just wondering.


I got my hunter safety card (which the class was a total joke) so why would I need a bowhunting safety course to?

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I can never say a class is a joke. You can always learn something new whether being the instructor or the student. It maybe filled with a whole lot of BS at times but, something will be new or it may make you question what you think you know.

Lets get back on track. What else is need to hunt in Idaho. I'm good with everything except my favorite sight. The scope has to go. Do any of you all use stands or do you prefer to stalk?

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"I can never say a class is a joke. You can always learn something new whether being the instructor or the student."


Not always, especailly the class that my nephew took. The instructor read them a book about gun saftey and hunting equipment. Then they watched a video about aging and scoring a whitetail buck, and they watched another video about gutting, cleaning, and quarting a deer. After that they took a test, in which a 5 year old should be able to pass. Then they were given a certicate and told congrat's. About 2 months later he got his hunter safety card in the mail. Just about everybody in that class new more then the instructor. I just dont see how taking a class like this is suppose to make the hunter more safe and ethical? I'm sure not all of the classes are ran like this.

But to me, its just a way for the State to make more money. They charge you X amount of $ to take this test and learn stuff that you've known since you were a kid.


But anyway back to the original post. Field mouse I hope you have fun in Idaho, are you going to hunt a OTC unit? Keep us posted, and make sure to post your big elk picture when you get one. :)

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TXhighrack,
You write something that you attribute to me when it wasn't me who said it. I don't care what animal you hunt as long as you follow the law and make ethical decisions. Fieldmouse's decision not to use the shoulders and let them just waste is unethical and illegal. I'm not on everyone's case that doesn't eat every ounce. The one thing that I will thank Fieldmouse for is standing up for classes. The class that you (TX) describe is nothing like what we teach. Much of what we teach are ethics, information on arrows, broadheads, and bows, laws and the care of game. If you came to my class I would guarantee that you would walk out with at least 1 new piece of information. If you didn't then I would refund your whoppin' $8. For what the student gets in our class the $8 doesn't cover. It costs more than that to put it out there. Also, we don't get paid, it is all volunteer and if I need classroom supplies it comes out of MY pocket. Please don't lead anyone else to believe that our class is no good. There are many people, children and adult, who have come out of it with a great education.

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I think this whole thread got off on the wrong foot from the beginning. I was born so long before Hunter Ed was even an issue that I never would have had to worry about taking one. But I did. In 1980 I took a coarse. My reason. Traveling to other states in the future. I felt that they would all require it someday eventually. That has not happened, but if it does I'm prepared. I believe Hunter's Ed is invaluable to people that are beginners in the sport of hunting. The young especially. Seasoned hunters dont need it. Like some have posted, some hunters are more knowledgeable than instructors. If you can prove you have had archery permits in other states there should be no need for a class. As far as Field Rats and Stay in the Kitchen that's all un-called for.