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zak123 06-20-2004 02:46 PM

.003 or .006
 
I'm going to get some gold tip arrows.I can get the .003 arrows, xt, for $50 total and the .006, hunter, for $40 total. Is the .003 straightness worth $10? Thanks

JoshKeller 06-20-2004 05:52 PM

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Yes, get the better quality arrows. $10 really isnt that much in archery.

hunter9022 06-20-2004 06:06 PM

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Yes, definatly go for the straighter. I switched from a .005 easton to a .003 gold tip XT hunter, and i can really tell the difference. They will last a lot longer.

Buck Magnet 06-20-2004 06:06 PM

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Spend the extra money and get the Gold Tip 3-D Pro's. They have a straightness of .001 and a weight tolerance of +/- 1 grain There won't be a flyer in the bunch!

PABowhntr 06-20-2004 07:10 PM

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To be honest with you, it probably does not make a bit of difference for most shooters but if you want to have peace of mind then go with the one that has a better advertised straightness variance.....at least initially.;)

Sharpshot_71 06-20-2004 09:03 PM

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I am not a good enough shooter to need that extra .003 of straightness. For hunting you dont need that perfact of stuff.

bigbulls 06-20-2004 10:19 PM

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I have always bought at least .003 arrows and everyone always told me that for hunting that it would not make any difference. Well, they are full of crap. Even with field tips my groups were not as tight as they were with the straighter arrows. Then add a fixed blade head on the end and there was no consistancy at all with them. Either spend the extra money on straighter carbon arrows or buy alluminum Easton super slams.

I want to add something so that you will understand what those numbers really mean. 6 thousandths of an inch does not sound like much but what that means is that they can vary as much as 6 thousandths of an inch one way and 6 thousandths of an inch in the opposite direction. So you could end up with an arrow that from one end to the other could be out 12 thousandths of an inch total. That's a lot for an arrow to be out. You may as well be shooting cedar arrows.

kelincp 06-21-2004 02:00 AM

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More animals (men and food types) have been taken with eyeballed arrows straightened with a bone with a hole in it than all alum and carbon arrows put together. In hunting situations I just can't see .oo3" making that big of a difference. That said, for $10 I would get the .oo3 arrows.

bigbulls 06-21-2004 02:51 AM

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More animals (men and food types) have been taken with eyeballed arrows straightened with a bone with a hole in it than all alum and carbon arrows put together.
Yeah, and they were also using self made bows, strings made from animal sinue, heads made from flint, and feathers made from real turkeys. They were flinging 800+ grain arrows at a blistering 100 fps from 5 feet off of a horses back.[&:];)

They were also drawing on rock walls and living out of animal skin tents.;)


I didn't believe it would make a difference either until I tried some .006" arrows but it made a big difference.

PABowhntr 06-21-2004 04:49 AM

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Bigbulls,

Ofcourse, you are correct in that explanation of how .006 might actually be 12 thousandths of an inch from one arrow to the next......and a .003 might actually be .006 variance from one arrow in a group to the next. However, as has often been pointed out in the ICS carbon debate threads, not all of the arrows even meet those advertised specs initially and then they tend to degrade over time with extended usage so a .006 difference in arrow straightness is probably the least of someone's concerns when considering two different carbon grade shafts.

I have no doubt that you shoot better with the slightly straighter carbons but I do believe that this is not necessarily the case with the majority of shooters out there. One also needs to consider the specific brand, and the subsequent quality control of that brand, when making references in this discussion. Some brands, such as Goldtip, might see a large difference between their low end and mid grade to high end shafts where others, though they advertise a sizeable difference, are not really that different in terms of consistancy for straightness, spine or weight from one "grade" shaft to the next.


Then add a fixed blade head on the end and there was no consistancy at all with them
I cannot argue that point but I have found, more often than not, that the cut of the arrow and the subsequent insert alignment is more often at fault than the straightness of the shaft....again, at least in what I run into regularly.

I am not trying to be argumentative but rather just offering a different point of view on the subject.

mr4pt 06-21-2004 06:13 AM

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I never knew there was a difference, neither did all those dead animals I piled up.

Seriously, you're starting to get a little too technical when you start talking about .003"

nmaineron 06-21-2004 07:14 AM

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So where does that put my GT hunters that I have been shooting for a couple of years now?Right off the bat I had to cull 5 of them.They still seem to fly OK but I would be willing to bet that they are way out of wack.
I don't really think that anyone with my shooting ability is going to notice a big enough difference in the .003 and the .006, and I don't shoot that bad,I can hold my groups to 4-5"@35 yds on a not so good day.
If all things were on the up and up and you got what was advertised and better, then I don't think that I would spend the 10 bucks on the .003s but thats not the case with my experiences so I would spend the 10 just to keep from throwing half of them out.Ron

adams 06-21-2004 07:54 AM

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ZAK, What have you spent on your hunting set up? I know, if you're like me way too much. So, why skimp on the vehicle for your broadhead. You practice 3 or 4 days a week and spend countell hours on stand to take a chance on what is one of the most vital components of your entire set up. IMHO the .003 is definately better than the.006 and if you can spare up the extra 40 to 50$ get the pro hunters. GT guarentees that they will be w/i .001 and 1g. Of the dozen gt advantage pro hunters I have found exactly 0 bad arrows. IMO they are well worth the extra $$.

One eye 06-21-2004 07:57 PM

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I would not even shoot .003 arrows with broadheads, especially if you are shooting high speeds.

Dan

bigbulls 06-21-2004 10:20 PM

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PA, I know that all of that other stuff that you stated can and often does make a very big difference as well. I was just trying to keep it about the straightness of the shafts. Assuming same brand, spine range, proper cut, proper insert installation, etc...... Like you said it is just one of many factors when considering shafts but one that can make a difference in ones performance.

idahoelkinstructor 06-21-2004 11:12 PM

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I always tell people to buy the very best they can afford. Zak personaly I would buy them if you can afford them. Right now I shoot an older bow and XX75's 2219 arrows. Now XX75's are not the top of the line. They have .003 straightness which is not the best. But they have worked very well for me and I have killed many animals with them. I honestly do believe that the extra $10 bucks is worth the straightness. But if you can't afford them, well then you can't afford them! You will not win an archery tournament with the cheaper arrows but they should be accurate enough for most hunting purposes. Just make sure you can keep all your arrows inside the vitals for the animal you are hunting. Good luck and happy hunting!


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