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I can not take it anymore!;) Go to www.asat.com and look at the pictures.

Ok looks good. But who the heck is going to shoot a deer through all the thick s**t they show in the pictures? This camo is no better than any other camo.[8D]
They (asat) assume all people must stalk cause all the pictures are on the ground behind 200 trees to pretend the deer would be looking at you from that direction. How the heck would you get a shot off with all those branches?

Ok so that is not your shooting lane, so then that is not the view of the deer and those pictures are staged.

Where are the tree stand pictures at ? Any body can "find" the perfect surrounding for a picture.[:@]

They advertize as bowhunters camo but do not show real world tree applications.:D

There is no way this is any better than mossy oak or anything out there. I do not care what you say ALL camo works just fine so stop talking about it and falling for the marketing bs and just hunt.:)

You can not argue success!!!!!! Look at the record books and see all the deer killed before ASAT days.[8D]

It begins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Keep stirring......thanks for trying out.;)

http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.as...y=camo&#605244

I know that there are a few on the first page.

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Is your arm tired yet? Thanks Matt/PA! I must have been looking for those pics at the sametime.

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I thought you or aussie might bite first!;)

Man that is a cute little deer. Is that this year? I never saw one that small , yotes must love em at that age.[:@]

I guess where I hunt it is all pines and there is not branches any where so we go 25 feet up to help but I can't see how the asat would help any.[8D]

Still not convinced:)

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I think you mean:

http://www.asatcamo.com/

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No it is not;)

My thoughts were about the pictures being questionable and so controled conditions like, anyway I think it is all marketing but the whole society has lifted their tolerances on what is needed and what is not. The manufacturers thrive on ignorance and impulse buyers. Why do you think there is so many products on the market? They all must be nessecaties right.;)

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If that's all the stirring you have...the noodles are going to be stuck to the bottom of the pot:D;)

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Yeah NEWSHOOTER.....is that all you got?:D

I might have to call BuckMagnet to take care of my light work.;)

Look my take on it is this. Any camoufage will work well in a given situation that compliments it's given appearance........sometimes camouflage doesn't even come into play AT ALL if you do your part right in stand location, the deer and wind cooperate etc. Heck I'm sure there are times and conditions when I could kill a nice deer doing jumping jacks in a Homer Simpson costume, but I wouldn't expect that to be exactly the best choice under a wide variety of conditions.
Camouflage such as ASAT and Predator that are deisgned to break up the human outline as much as possible are designed to help the hunter blend in , in as many environments as possible. Not just belnd in with a certain background, but to blend AND BREAK UP the human form.
Is it going to be a benefit in every occaision? NOPE..... like you said many many good deer have been killed wearing all sorts of things, but why not try to give yourself the best advantage that you can under ALL conditions. othing can make us invisible, but why not TRY to be as invisible as possible.
Let me ask you this.......you are 18ft up, and off to the side of your tree a bit with a light leaf canopy behind you, the biggest buck you have ever seen is standing 20 yards away in the open. As you come to full draw you accidentally clank your arrow faintly off your bow's riser and the deer freezes and looks up. You want to be wearing a nice dark Real Oak or Mossy Tree suit when that deer is SEARCHING for anything to give him an excuse to run? If that deer sees a human outline he's gone, or he's blind and stupid.
Be honest.

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I had 3 bucks standing 15ft from me the other day out turkey hunting. I was wearing good ole Nam Tiger Stripe. They looked right through me. Good camo for the spring,and its cheap:D

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LOL :D :D :D

I agree totally with Matt. If you have the discretionary income to spend on the sport, what harm is done giving yourself every possible advantage? I feel the same way about scent-lock. I know it does not make a huge difference, but it certainly could give me a small advantage in certain instances. Because my hunting areas are 10-12 hours away, I only get to take a few trips each year. Therefore, I want every possible advantage to make the most of my trip. Oh, and by the way, I will be adding an ASAT leafy suit to the arsenal this year! :)

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But Newshooter, isn't that exactally what you did when you bought into the whole sticks and leaves thing?
You are also the victim of marketing "BS", as you put it. Mossy oak or Realtree both have thousands of dollars invested in the marketing and advertising game. And what you fell victim to is called, in the business, as "Brand Loyality".
It has all to do with how you go grocery shopping, buy cars and most other purchases you make. All companies want you to be emotional about their products. When you purchase certain things you feel connected to whatever their advertisment portrays. This is all part of the game. I do not have the typing skills to sit here and give out a disertation or write a college thesis on the basic principles of marketing and advertising, but we all fall victim to it at some point in our lives. This is why, for every story someone posts about ASAT, someone else will have a better or similar story. We have bought into the marketing for whatever reason and want to validate ourselves/purchase by having someone else do the same.
For most of the folks that use ASAT, they almost all seem to have had some type of "experience", where by, they just suddenly "get-it". All of the prompting, marketing and photos up to this point have ment nothing to these folks, but then somewhere, somehow, something happens and from that day forward, they are ASAT users for life.
You apparently have not had this ephiphany yet, and for this I am sorry. The good news is that it is not too late. You already know the ASAT web page. What are you waiting for?;)

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I hunt the pines of East Texas and ASAT works just great there.

Now spot and stalking is a lot of fun IF you can do it;)

Here is a pic of a guy on the ground doing a stalk on a Chital deer who's eye sight is a lot better than a Whitetail.


The pic BTW was taken in Australia where all the trees are evergreen;)

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HMMMmm... I never trim limbs... I never cut down trees... I hunt the thicker spots... GEE, and here all this time I thought I did hunt the thickets. Oh well.

AND... as far as being better than anything else.... NOPE. The best camo known to man kind is "Snowflage" with a foot of new snow on the ground. NOTHING BETTER. Aside from snow, they all have their places. Some are better than others. Some suck in my woods and are great on someone elses prairie.

You got it all wrong... it isn't about being better than the others... it's about a boy having enough toys.

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Newshooter, because you have never owned ASAT, you'll never understand...and obviously are too closed minded to even consider the facts behind ASAT technology. I've worn them all inclulding your beloved Mossy Oak....and my field research speaks for itself, ASAT makes you as close to invisible to ANIMALS as you can ever be. I say animals because humans try to analize it's appearance too much and because it doesn't appear to the human eyes as conventional camo is in itself it's only downfall. Everyone has stories about how close animals have been, how it never saw me, how it looked right through me...etc...but never have I had the experiences with animals as I have wearing anything else but ASAT...until you try it, you simply won't get it....It's simply, everyone who has tried it will never wear anything else......that speaks volumes.

Your not stiring the pot, your simply showing your ignorance for the product.

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Alright, the truth of the matter is the boards are dead and I hate it.[:@] No new pics, no good treads.;)

Anyway I got a few good laughs from these replies and that made my day.

Really I bought a brand new mossy oak insulated suit and then found out the ASAT[:@]
I definatly would prefer the asat but my suit is brand new. I guess i am pissed that I did not know of it earlier. I do not think the wife would be real happy with more camo in the family. I am not brand loyal to anything! What ever is the best well researched product gets my business.


Just was in the mood for alittle fun, Thanks for the laughs, and hey watch some of the negative comments.:eek: We all have the same passion.:)

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Personally, I think all of this camo talk is a bunch of ****. Though I rarely use this anymore, can anyone deny this very old pattern as one of the best patterns ever.

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YY......aaaaaaaa.....wwwwwww.....nnnnnnn[8D]

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Where can I get me some of this camo??? It seems to work quite well....and look, no sticks, leaves, blotches of tan with black stripes....it must be a marketing gimmick.

;)

Eventually, when enough people go against the grain and buck the trend then they create a trend themselves and become the norm.

To heck with all you all...I am getting some River Ghost camo. [:-]

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Looks like Predator Camo to me

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PABOWHUNTER! I demand you give me a link to that camo now! I dont know what ill do if I cant see more! It is making my heart do barrel rolls! Holy crap that stuff looks nice. WOW:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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The pic is from the Cabelas website. They carry it at about the same price as the other conventional camo leafy suits. Just go to cabelas.com and type in Montana River Ghost. The link will come up.

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I would post a reply.... but the can't get my picture down to 35 kbs.
I shrunk them and everthing.....
keep on stirring it keeps our thoughts stirring

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I went to the ASAT web site and I thought the pictures looked pretty good. I usually wear Predator camo and that works well for me. The river ghost looks pretty good too. The prarie ghost has been around for a while, but not in the leafy version. I have had a set for a couple years now and I use it when hunting in the sage brush prairies of north central montana for elk. I also use predator fall gray, looks like you would stick out like a sore thumb but it seems to work. I had 13 elk from 5 to 50 yards from me and all I had was a fallen dead tree behind me and thats when I shot my first elk. NO bad comments but sure is fun reading the posts.