Help me set up my bow to get the maximum f.p.s. out of it.
 

Here is my bow & my current set up.
Darton Typhoon.
29.5" draw.
70-pounds.
Easton Axis 340 arrows cut to 26.5" 9.5gpi, 4"vanes straight.
100-grain field tips.
Wisker Bisket rest.
String leaches.
Ultra Limb Savers.
Peep with rubber tube.
String loop without a brass nock on the string.
Scott Mongoose release.
What can I do to increase my f.p.s.? I have not shot this bow thru a cronograph. This is a hunting bow so it needs to be quiet.

RE: Help me set up my bow to get the maximum f.p.s. out of it.
 

With your setup and arrow length you can shoot the easton axis 400 arrows and gain a few fps there. Because your arrows are only 26.5 inches long you can shoot the 400 Axis arrows. Also if you want to gain more fps switch off you broom bristle rest and put on a drop away or a regular TM style rest and you will gain FPS there also. And if you want to go even further you can switch that peep to different and get rid of that tubing which can slow you down as much as 10fps.

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Wow man, do you have an overdraw on that think with the whisker to get those arrows so short? Especially with a 29.5" DL. Well, you might want to try to get a different peep sight to get rid of that rubber band. That alone is costing you 5 or more fps right there. Also, you might consider switching to Carbond Express 300's. The axis were designed to have a little more weight for added KE. You're current arrows should be around 400+/-5 grains. With CX 300's you'd be right around 370grains total. You could also switch to a lighter business end...maybe 85 instead of 100 grains. If you lightened the point, switch arrows, and change peep sights, then you should be hovering around the 295-300fps range if not faster.

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Your rest is fine , change your string to a winners choice string and get a 3/16 tru peep ,that will give you around 8 to 12 fps , rough guess . Get rid of the brass nock and pick up another 4 or 5 fps. With the short arrows you are useing and lite tips , useing feathers will probably give you another 4 to 5 fps .

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I agree with the others. Ditch the rubber tubing style peep and try a lighter arrow. Either that or stop shooting the chronograph. Either way your problem will be solved....:D

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I already ordered a Winners choice string. I will ditch the peep with the rubber tube. I did not know I would loose that much with the rubber tube. I will switch to lighter arrows. I will also look at a lighter field point? I have to consider that I hunt elk with this bow. I might want to just stick with the 100-grain field points & broadheads?
I will also cronograph my bow with a fall away rest & see if I can gain enough over the W.B. to justify the switch?

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If you want to hunt elk, i would go with heavier arrows. Weight means a lot momentum. WB will slow you down. I don't remember who posted it but feathers are slower then vanes. I agree get rid of the brass nocks, tie on serving to serving for nock indicators.

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You might want to reread Chapt 1 of your Bowhunting 101 manual;)

You know......................the one you wrote..................lol.....:D

RE: Help me set up my bow to get the maximum f.p.s. out of it.
 

You're both right........

Feathers are faster within the first 40-50 yards and then are overtaken by vanes due to their increased drag.

Vanes are almost 3 times heavier inch per inch......

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Feathers are actually slower than veins after 25 yds. Feathers are faster right after the release but slow down alot faster than veins after around 25 yds. This is what I determined with my set up.

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It all depends Rack. The feathers i shot don't lay down like store bought feathers, therefore they are slower. However most store bought feathers are not stiff and lay down, and are faster. That is at the bow, the feathers will slow down to the vanes eventually.

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I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY YOU WANTED TO SHOOT SO FAST? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID IT BUT ONCE YOU GET YOUR BOW SHOOTING BULLET HOLES IN PAPER AND GROUPING GOOD KEEP IT THE HELL AWAY FROM A CHRONO. POINT BEING, IF YOU ARE SHOOTING GREAT AND YOU KNOW YOUR BOW IS TUNED GREAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT YOUR SHOT ON THAT BIG BULL. I THINK THAT EVERYONE SEES THAT HUGE IBO SPEED AND THINKS THAT IT'S THE STANDARD AND ANYTHING BELOW THAT IS NOT GOOD.

AND ABOUT THE THING YOU SAID AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR POST YOU WANTED TO GET YOUR BOW AS QUIET AS POSSIBLE FOR HUNTING. A GOOD WAY TO START IS TO NOT GET LIGHT ARROWS THEY MAKE TOO MUCH NOISE. IMHO

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Don't get all cute on me:D

Feathers are faster......period.

Vanes will NOT overtake a feather fletch at 40 or 50 yds. At yardages a little farther than that they may be faster - but to "overtake" the feather it will take a bit more yardage - well out of the "hunting Zone".

And......even if they are flying faster at 50 yds they will not hit the target first;)

they gots somes catchings ups to do:D

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What do you use??

I don't think any feather Gateway or trueflight "laydown".........actually I am sure they don't. laying down has nothing to do with it. They are lighter so they are faster......period:eek::eek:

What brand would this be - really only two....and laying down ain't in the equation:eek::eek:

:eek::eek::eek:

RE: Help me set up my bow to get the maximum f.p.s. out of it.
 

That is what I always thought, but I am no engineer.:eek:

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Here ya go, ewolf. Read it. Learn it. Know it. There will be a quiz in the morning. ;)

www.trueflightfeathers.com/facts.htm

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I just want to get every f.p.s. out of my bow that is PRATICLE. I just figure it's a long way from here to Sepetember? I might as well have some fun with it. My bow is shooting pretty darn good. I have 188-arrows thru it so far. I will change the string when I get some where between 250 & 300 arrows thru it. I will use a Winners choice string & ditch the peep with the rubber tube.
I figure if I am going to miss a bull elk I might as well do it with a fast arrow?:D

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I know that a lot of guys want a lightining fast bow, but don't forget that Kenetic Energy is what can make the difference between a pass through and an embedded arrow. Also, elk are big animals. just keep that in mind.

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I would definitely change your string & peep. If you are using a brass nock and eliminators, get rid of them and go with a loop or tied in nock & eliminator.

Also with your very short arrows, you should probably go w/ feathers..this will pick you up a bit of speed and add some forgiveness (and arrow spine will remain sufficient for the bow arrow/combo you have cited). But the main reason is because with that short of an arrow and vanes you likely will have serious FOC problems. It may not show up w/ field points, but fixed blade broadheads or long ferrule mechs will likely get squirrelly on you.

after those changes, I'd leave the bow alone.

As for the feathers ...

I would gather E-wolf is using "natural" turkey feathers (i.e. from wild turkeys).

Feathers do have more drag. They will slow down quicker. But it really depends on how much helical you put on them. With a heavy helical like I use they will slow down much quicker than the same helical with vanes even as close as 30 yards (Was testing this last weekend as a matter of fact). However in a more moderate helical or just an offset, there is little practical difference out to 40 or 50 yards.

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Come on now Arthur. I would expect more from you than to actually believe what any manufacturer puts on their own website about a product. :)

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Ah, but in this case, Frank, their information just happens to be factual. ;)

Really, I've seen stop action and slo-mo videos of various fletchings before. Also, I've used feather fletchings since starting out in 1955. I use vanes sometimes, but they are nowhere near the equal of a good set of feathers.

From what I've seen and experienced, the folks at Truflight are not 'exaggerating', at all.