Shoulder Blade Kill Poll
I would like to hear some info on deer hit in the shoulder blade (scapula) and were recovered.
I think its the worst place to hit a deer and I lost two bucks years ago with blade hits before I realized what was going on. Please add following info: Angle and dist of shot Weight of arrow and arrow type (Carbon / Alum) Ke of setup or poundage, DL, and type of bow Broadhead used From tree or ground Inches of penetration, pass thru? Did arrow break off Size of deer Dist deer went after shot Describe blood trail Thanks |
RE: Shoulder Blade Kill Poll
Your just wanting recovered ......correct ?
Shot 2 before...... recovered 1 in Jan.2003 ! Distance 30 yrds .....broadside or a possible slight qtr to angle PSE CF Dominator 300 arrow = 350 grains 71#ke @0 yrds .....Mathews Ultra2 ......30" draw 65% let off 100 grain Spitfire 3 blade Pro Series Tree- apprx. 20 ft up Estimate 4-5" of penetration = arrow did break around the insert (broadhead was in tact) !! Don't remember......but I think he was 150-160 lbs (8pt with broke main beam) Zero = Arrow punched through the shoulder(not the ridge or hardest part) and broke the spine Actually a fair amount of blood came out of the entry hole ....kind of surprising ! Also tracked and recovered a doe for a friend : 12-15 yrds Qtr towards slightly Beman ICS Hunter = probably around 370-380 grains 55-58# of KE .....Mathews MQ-32 ....29" draw...80% Tree ....18-20 ft up RM Ti-Revolution 100 10-12" penetration (arrow broke as deer ran off) 110 lb doe (hit in the very back of the shldr blade & angled toward the back ribs on the opposite side) 125-150 yrds No blood trail to speak of He lost one the following year with a much higher ke set up and a shoulder hit !! |
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I lost a nice little 8 pt about 4 years ago. 15 yds, centered the shoulder bone, and got only minimal penetration, good blood for about 40 yds, then nothing.
About 2 years after that I nailed a small 3 pt with the shoulder blade hit, complete penetration with both shoulder blades busted. Recoved within 40yds. Shooting Muzzy then. About 10yds from a treestand. I think the difference was, on the first buck, I squared the actual shoulder/leg bone. On the smaller buck I just busted through the weeker shoulder blade. |
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Many years ago , shooting
pse 55 lbs 28 inches muzzy 3 blade 100 grain 28" 2213 with vanes aprox 460 grains from 20 feet up a tree , a palm tree that is 75 lb spike at 12 yards hit square on the shoulder went thru the ball and socket , and about 4 inches of penitration , cutting one lung . Recovered deer 200 yards away . Lerned a lesson on that one , I was new to archery hunting back then and thought you shot them in the same place as when gun hunting . Very poor blood trail . |
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Angle and dist of shot= 18 yards 12 -13 ft high
Weight of arrow and arrow type (Carbon / Alum) 440 grains Carbon . Might hbe a little off I've changed my set up. Ke of setup or poundage, DL, and type of bow( 62 lbs of KEI think) 70 lbs Hoyt magnatech Broadhead used -125 grain thunderhead From tree or ground- tree Inches of penetration, pass thru? Did arrow break off - penetration 14 inches Yes arrow broke off Size of deer -120 lb doe dressed out Dist deer went after shot - 45 yards angled down one lung and heart. Describe blood trail - pretty darn good, I didn't mean to hit shoulder . When I saw her take off I thought oh crap cause she was dragging her leg. About three seconds later I heard a crash. When I field dressed her I saw the heart the broadhead ran right down it. |
RE: Shoulder Blade Kill Poll
Rack this should be an interesting and educational post, thanks.
One question comes to mind...Could you define what you mean by "Shoulder blade"? I know I sound moronic but trust me I am sincere in asking. When I talk about the shoulder blade I am refering to the scapula, some call it the "paddle bone". When I hear others refer to the "shoulder bone" they are really speaking of the leg bone that attaches to the scapula. Others simply refer to a general area and if they don't butcher their own deer really don't know if they even hit a bone. |
RE: Shoulder Blade Kill Poll
When I talk about the shoulder blade I am refering to the scapula, some call it the "paddle bone". Thanks so far guys for all the detail - I am hoping to learn a bit from this:D |
RE: Shoulder Blade Kill Poll
ok shoulder shot #1
PSE pulsar express @68# 2216@30" rocky mtn razor Bhead 125 gr Shot was 6-8 yds from 15-18 ft hi Complete pass thru, arrow went thru flat thin part of shoulder blade and exited bottom of deer on the gut side of the diaphram The buck(125# dressed) travelled 55-60 yds with NO blood trail at all. Shoulder shot #2 PSE Nova @ 70# [email protected]" thunderhead 125 shot was 13 yds from 18 ft hi Arrow just poked through opposite side of deer about 4" Arrow smashed thru shoulder bone (where the flat part turns to the ridge) Buck (135# dressed) travelled 35 yds with spotty bloodtrail Shoulder shot #3 Same set up as above Shot was about 20 yds from 18 ft up Arrow hit square the shoulder leg bone and penetrated VERY little. 4" tops?? Arrow fell out after about 70 yds. The deer travelled 250 yds with easily followed bloodtrail and was given follow up shot in its bed. Doe(105# dressed) Shoulder shot #4 Same setup as above, with nearly identical result as shot#1 Doe was 5 yds I was 15 ft up, Piled up after 40 yds with no blood trail She was big for a doe(125# dressed) On 2 other bucks I have broken the opposite shoulder. |
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Two seasons ago,shot a doe quartering away and going slightly uphill at 22yds.I was appox.25 feet up,shooting a Q2,30in.,67lbs,Beman Carbon-Hunters 380-16's,100grs. NAP Spitfires,428grs. total arrow weight,260fps.The arrow enterd though the right shouldar blade,and exited out over the frount of her left leg. She only ran about 40yds,with a gruesome blood trail.The arrow shattered,but the Spitfire was recovered. This was my first deer shot using my new Copper-John,so thats the excuse I'm using for hitting this deer too far foward....Bob
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1. 68lb PSE Carrera using 385 gr. carbon and spitfire broadhead. 205 lb field dressed weight 8 pt. Thru near shoulder and head sticking out far shoulder. Good blood trail and deer went 50yds.
2. 70lb. High Country Extreme with carbon arrows and spitfire broadhead. Slight angle away, on a doe. Thru near blade and just poked thru far blade. Good blood and doe went 40yds. 3. 65 lb. High Country Sniper using 2213 arrows with overdraw. 240 lb. Russian boar and thunderheads. 1st shot angle away thru near ribs and poked out far blade. No blood, went 3/4 mile and put another arrow 1 inchfrom first arrow. Thru near blade and passthru far ribs. Went 40 final yards with no blood. |
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