Alternative to Muzzy Broadheads?
 

I've used Muzzys for the past few years, but I've been dissappointed with how easily the blades dull. I've tried resharpening them, but I can never return them to a true factory edge.

What's a good alternative to the Muzzy that retains the Muzzy heavy construction and bone shattering capability, but comes with a better grade of steel for the blades?

Thanks,

Fritz

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;) I'm a proponent of Thunderheads. Just love them and they take a nice edge time and time again.

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Just buy extra blades. I have a set of extra blades that are scalpel sharp just for hunting. Usually once I kill a deer with that set of blades, they go in the practice pile. This way, I can shoot my actual hunting blades and dull them all I like and get an accurate feel of how well they will shoot in the woods.

I've been using Muzzy heads for over 12 years and have not considered another and never will. Its my opinion they are the best out there and there is no subsititute.

Just my two cents.

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You should replace muzzy blades , their cheap to replace , other than that , if you want a fixed blade , check out 5-shots home page , he has years of research on there , another valuable resource from the members of this board , heres a link

http://www.american-hunter.com/broad...dhead_test.htm

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There ain't a broadhead out there that can take a shot and still remain razor sharp. With muzzy's the blades are so cheap it's better just to buy a bunch of replacements.

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Very true and unfortunately my blade standards aren't that high. What troubles me is when I install a new set of Muzzy blades and they dull from the foam insert in my quiver. That's what has me keeping my eyes open for an alternative.

Was reading some of that broadhead review and was impressed with those Rocky Mountain heads. The titanium head is an obvious choice, but at the price it's hard to make that jump. Has anyone ever shot the other Rocky Mountain fixed blade heads?

Thanks,

Fritz

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Mr. Fritz:

I have tried some of the heads that you mentioned. Each head seems to have something about it that is less than ideal, at least in my experience.

Muzzy blades are thinner than I would like, and like you said, can be dulled a bit from being repeatedly pushed into the foam of a quiver hood. Other than that, I can find no fault in their flight or toughness. They have done an excellent job on deer for me.

Sullivan Innerloc heads are very similar to Muzzy. .O20 blades, about the same sharpness, tough heads that retain blades very well.

Thunderheads are excellent heads in most respects. Very, Very sharp .027 blades, and IMO, the strongest, best machined ferrule of the leading brands. The only problem I had with Thunderheads is that O-ring retainer system created, rather than solved alignment problems, and when shooting into foam, the head would not stay tight for more than one shot. I did find that the heads were more likely to tighten in straight when using their wrench than by hand. The T-heads worked very well on the few deer I shot with them, however.

Cabelas Super-Mini Lazer Pro Mags also have .027 blades that are scary sharp. The ferrule is not as nice or strong as the T-heads, and the 0-ring retainer system has caused problems for me. The first batch I bought spun and flew very well, the second batch I got had washers with too small of a hole , and the heads would not align worth a hoot.[:@]

I took a deer with a Slick Trick head last year. .035 blades, all steel ferrule, low profile, and excellent flight and accuracy. I had a set from the first year they were out. The blades were not sharp at all. I had to work and work to sharpen them, and finally got them hair-shaving sharp. The newer ones are supposed to be sharper from the pack. The blade angle is very abrupt on these, almost like a mechanical when deployed. I did hit the deer a little high, but she left no blood on the ground at all on an 80 yard death run. Not blaming the head, but that is what happened.

I have 100 gr. Phantom heads that I intend to use next season. They are a cut to the tip head. The blades are sharp, and appear to be easily resharpened. .040 main blade and .028 "bleeder." The only thing I noticed is that there is really no retaining system for the bleeder, except the insert of the arrow. I have a set of Rocket Hammerheads, and intend to use the steel washer from those behind the Phantoms when I use them with my XT Axis arrows this year.

Magnus Stingers are getting excellent reviews from everyone who has used or tested them. A little less cut and bleeders that appear "dinky" compared to the Phantom are the only reasons I didn't get the Magnus instead.

I have not shot any of the newer Wasp heads, but according to 5-shot and his testing, they seem to be what you might be looking for. .027 blades that are very sharp, good blade retention, and tough. They are reportedly good flying heads as well.

I have shot Rocky Mt. heads, but not for a few years. The 100 gr. Premiers were the first head I shot that absolutely flew like field points with the old pultruded carbons. The only problem with the premiers was that the ferrule was soft and weak. The heads would bend in the part of the ferrule that was down in the insert. I'm sure that the Titaniums would not do that.

I hope that helps a little. I also got a kick out of your phonetic pronunciation of New Tripoli.:D

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Thats one of the main reasons I switched from shooting muzzy heads. Don't get me wrong....they are excellent heads, but I got tired of buying replacement blades. I shoot Magnus 2 blade heads now. If and when they get dull, you can just resharpen them and you're all set. Penetration wise, they are hard to beat. Price is also good @ 6/$22.

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steelforce!!

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I shoot the Thunderheads for a couple of reasons, one I find them sharper out of the box and two... they just fly a tad(tiny amount) more true from my bow for me.

All that being said, Muzzy... Thunderhead... They gained their popularlity for the ease of putting on a new blade... called replacement blades. They're for us clutzes that can't sharpen a pencil. THEY will ALL dull. I practice with some and replace the blades before they go in a quiver for hunting. If they EVER come off the bow, whether it's being shot or dropped from a treestand, I replace the blades. The ones I take off become practice blades. IF I want to check my hunting arrows I change the blades and put on some old ones and fire away. When I'm done I put the new ones back in.

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I may have been brain washed, but is there an alternative to Muzzy?

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Thanks to all and especially Joe with that in depth discussion. I'm going to look into some of the names dropped here and see what I come up with.

Fritz

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mrfritz44, I used to use the Rocky Mountain ironhead and they did the job. I shot a couple of deer with them and took them to Africa. I never lost an animal in Africa but everything I shot except an impala, the blades came out in the animal. My brother had the same experience. We got pass throughs on the impala but blesbok, warthog and kudu the arrow stayed in and there were no blades left in the broadheads. They killed the animals but I didn't like that they all came apart.

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I agree on the sharpness on muzzy blades.. not to good.
I've heard to put in the inner lock blades in the muzzy's head! Might be an option.........fishon

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In my opinion there is no alternative. Just buy extra blades and keep shooting Muzzy.

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I have hunted with Muzzys, Thunderheads(pro series too), Rocky Mtns. and many others. Muzzys have been more successful for me. Although I have resharpened blades a few times, its much easier to buy replacement blades.

As far as Rocky Mountain T1s, they are regarded as one of the best broadheads out there, they just aren't used as much due to the high price.

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Use thunderheads they are the best! My own slogan ~ "they don't just kill deer, they murder them"

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IMO Innerlock makes a much beter head than Muzzy does. The steel tip runs all the way through the head and provided more strength than the Muzzy head does. They aren't so freaking big either, Innerlocks are a more compact head. Another thing i like about Innerlock over Muzzy is that the blades are in the center of the furrel instead of being offset to one side by the other blade.

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anyone ever use grim reaper broadheads?
i saw some at the ATA show in Indianapolis... thought they looked impressive..

just wondered if any of you had actually had any good or bad reports on them?

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I like the look of those Innerlocks for no other reason than they are very similar in size to the Muzzy's, and I know the Muzzy's fly true. Question is, do they consistently screw in straight and how are the blades? Will they dull after a few inserts into the quiver like the Muzzy's or is the steel they use harder?

Thanks,

Fritz

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In my experiance with them they do screw in straight and personally they tune easier for me. I don't know if they use harder steel or not but the blades held their sharpness for me through a hunting season. Shooting them into a layered target they would stay sharp enough to cut easily for a half dozen shots or so.


Go buy yourself a three pack and give them a shot. They are only $14 so it's not cost prohibitive. I think you will like them better. I sure do.

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I don't see any problem with a tad dull blade. I shoot muzzy as well. All my tips has been shot at least three times before I put them in the quiver for the hunt. I don't have any problem taking down elk so far. Just me I guess.

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I CANNOT believe all of you haven't got one of these.....

http://www.toolpeddler.com/8DELUX.htm

Without a doubt the BEST sharpening system on the planet. With this system I am able to resharpen just about ANY broadhead blade. Including blades similar to Muzzy's I have also sharpened small Steelhead blades with it and it WILL make the hair jump right off your arm with some practice.

It works even better for knives and I have even sharpened hatchets so they were SHAVING sharp...

BEST money I have ever spent....quit wasting hours sharpening all your knives and get a razor edge in under 60 seconds....

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Easy fix to the problem. I shoot Wasp SST fixed 3 blade. Fly like a Muzzy but
the blades are much sharper than Muzzy blades. Think you would be impressed
with them.

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Not really much I can add here. Muzzys are one of the top heads and still my personal favorite replaceable blade, chisel tip style head. Muzzys are not as sharp as some, but that is mostly a product of the way the blades are made. In order to get them in the shape they are, and make the head so strong, they just loose a bit of sharpness in the process. That said they still shave hair out of the pack. If your quiver foam is dulling them, try a lether strope. you can touch up the blades pretty easily and make the factory fresh blades a bit sharper as well.

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Switched from Steelforce to Muzzy. Disappointed by the weak tips on Steelforce[:'(] But I like cut on contact broadheads.;)

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Been shooting the Rocky mountain since they came on the market in the 70s. I have shot with several heads over the years but now see no need to change. I use the 3 blade Rocky Mountain Razor 125gr most of the time but am going after Buffalo in the near future & using the 3 Blade 125gr Rocky Mountain Ironhead.
I have taken Black Bear, Elk, Caribou & wild hogs (some of the tougher animals) with the 3 bladed Razor with excellent results.

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I don't think there is one!!:D

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Fritz,
One of the virtues of the InnerLoc is that once you have the head on the shaft and have spinn tested it to align it with the shaft, you don't have to mess up this integrity to change blades. Same as Muzzy in that respect.

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Makes sense BGfisher, thanks for the tip. I think I'm gonna try them, especially if they don't dull when you look at them!;)