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I made bad comment in my previous post that Charlie picked up on. I'm kinda having a foot in mouth moment...I wanted to delete that but forgot...I was getting at maturity, that's why I referenced BM on his transformation over the last few years. That doe he shot was a prime example of what it is to be an 'experienced' bowhunter. There are several guys on this forum with that wisdom, and many without it.

I can't comment on myself...I've only harvested 7 deer with my bow and all within 20 yards. I guess I've never had the opportunity to be tempted at a far shot...

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:) groundhunter: any further reports on finding the doe?

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Thanks GV,

The whole point that Ground is refusing to see is that you have to learn from your mistakes and improve on them. Granted, this could have been a fluke accident on Grounds part, and he may be able to kill deer in this same situation for the rest of his life and never loose one, but lets face it, that probablly won't happen. To continue saying that you would take the shot again isn't right. Why? Well, for a number of reasons. I am sure Ground feels bad, but to say that he would do it over again isn't something to brag about. It shows a lack of compassion about the deer. I'll kill any deer that I want to (as long as it is legal and I have a tag), but that doesn't mean that I dislike deer. I love them and I always feel bad when I see deer hit by cars and such, but I am a hunter, I know the importance of hunting, so I will go out and whack one or two a year. Also, like I everyone has been trying to say, you have to learn from your mistakes and IMPROVE them. To say that you would do it over again shows that you aren't willing to change your attitude. What is gonna happen next year when a small buck is standing at 40 yards with 10 minutes of light left? Anyone who really cared would remember what happend with the doe, and they wouldn't take the shot because they didn't want to risk it.

Look Ground, wounding deer isn't something that anybody wants to see happen. You HAVE TO minimize the chance of this happening by improving yourself and your shot selection. If you aren't going to reflect back on this and try and learn, well, that just reflects poorly on you. Don't look at like you wounded a deer, actually think about that deer for a minute. It was a living, breathing creature, not just a target. You shouldn't have any attitude like "crap, I lost it, o well" you should be kicking yourself in the butt, getting ticked off at YOURSELF. That is something everyone here has gone through. If you didn't feel that and you aren't willing to try and prevent that, well, then you need to lay that bow down and use a rifle. If you are willing to change your techniques and shot selection from here on out, in hopes of preventing this from happening, then I wish you many years of good luck.

GV,

The main reasons I have been incredibly picky about my shot selection are because I realize that I am not just shooting a target, I am shooting at a living creature and I OWE it to that deer to make it as fast and painless of a death as possible. Also, I just don't want to feel that feeling ever again. Knowing that you lost a deer is one of the worst feelings in the world. I actually made myself sick last year with the doe that got away. I threw up a few times that night, not to mention that I didn't get any sleep.

One other thing is that this year, I had little voices popping in my head when I had that doe at 15 yards quartering towards me. These voices were all comments from the guys that ripped into me. I remember standing there thinking about everything they had said. Actually, another reason for my patience is that I didn't want to let those guys down who had helped me.

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I won't argue that VC, but whereas some folks post and say "dang it, I hit and lsot a deer " and build on the WHY the deer was lost, GroundHunter says he'd take the shot again, it was the equipments fault etc etc. Thats the impression I get - so the "figuring out, learning and avoiding" doesn't seem to be happening.

Editing the posts to change teh scenario don't help either !

If you can make long yardage shots, take them. If you TRY to make those shots and fail, I think that strongly hints to NOT take those shot again.

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I have edited previous posts for grammatical reasons only.....

Bow setup (does this meet your approval NAVY??)

Hoyt ZR200
60# draw, 30" draw length
Easton Carbon arrows (340) 29"
100 grain Wasp Jak-Hammer SST 1 1/4 cut
TRU GLO 3 pins site (set @ 20,30,40 yrds)
Whisker Bisquit
T.R.U. Ball release

Professionally tuned and sighted by Pro Shop.

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GroundHunter - Had you hit the deer in the lungs you'd have blasted through it IMO with that setup (which BTW sounds like a good hunting setup)

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That will never work for a 35 yard shot! What are you thinking man???!!!!!


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GH, seems like everyone wants to give you advice on how to hunt as if you know nothing about it. That's fine because that's why we are on these boards and hopefully many of these replys have helped you in some way. You know what though? I'm sure you'll figure out what went wrong. Like I've said before, when I blow a shot, I spend weeks thinking about it. It gets quite annoying actually because I can't think of anything else, all day. But it helps in the end. I guess figure out if you are a 35 yards shooter. Would it be that unbelievable for a guy out here to be able to shoot at 35 yards? Not really. I know I could but I choose not to for my own reasons. I realize that many out here have made the connection of this being a bad shot to the time of day at that distance and all, but only you know. Just take into consideration what we are saying and figure it out in your own way. Good luck man and God Bless.

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Thanks BadSHotBob....

I finally figured out what went wrong........

I was sitting down when I took the shot....:D

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;) An ol' 1950's TV program titled Sargeant Preston of The Yukon always ended with the RCMP Sargeant Preston saying to his faithful huskie, King, "well King, this case is closed". After reading all the post and your set up in my humble opinion you need to re-think what a quality shot is in bow hunting. Any experienced bow hunter will tell you that a 35 yard shot at near dark is a poor shot at best. Please re-think. We want all of our fellow hunters to take quality shots. We owe it to the prey, ourselves and all fellow hunters. God forbid some other poor fellow was heading in that night, cammoed to the max, you totally missed your prey and the hunter ended up on the wrong side of your mechanical. Crap happens and we need to take all precautions to stop crap from happening.