Aggrevating situation.
01-10-2004, 03:17 AM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kilauea Hawaii Hawaii, USA
Posts: 155
RE: Aggrevating situation.
Defenceless? What about superior speed, scenses, and smarts? Nah, you did good by being nice and polite. Does she have a garden? They always call the hunters when they eat the garden. I like the idea of giving her jerkey. And tell her it's natural food.
01-10-2004, 04:48 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dahlonega Ga. USA
Posts: 1,626
RE: Aggrevating situation.
Where in Georgia are you from? It's only a matter of time before she may be begging you to "Kill every one of those Dam things" as a friend of mine did me this fall. His wife hit one on the way home, $6,000.00 in repair bills and 2 months later, he got the car back. In all fairness he is not an anti-hunter and allowed me to hunt his place last year as well. My wifes chiropractor also complains of deer damage to the thousands of dollars he has invested in landscaping, his wife is an anti and he can't accept my offer to help out. Patience!!
01-10-2004, 05:00 AM
#15
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location:
Posts: 1,491
RE: Aggrevating situation.
Hi Stalker22,
There really is "no logical argument" to make with an emotion based opinion. And to attempt to "discuss" the issue would probably only make her more steadfast in her "anti-hunting" beliefs.
All you can do is appreciate the "view" of those deer....and continue to be a good neighbor. Any thing you do for her should be without the expectation of ever "bringing her around". And who knows.....maybe years down the road.....when she truly believes that you are a "decent human being"...not a "murderer of defenseless animals", she may also alter her thinking. But there is probably not a thing in the world you could do....to persuade her differently now. Her beliefs are most probably the results of years of exposure to the "bambi syndrome".....and being raised "insulated" from obtaining food with her own two hands.
We have several generations of people in today's society that have not directly participated in the "preparing of their food from field to table". They have been raised in a society that all the "dirty work" is behind them...by the time their food hits their table. Having been raised where much of our food, when I was growing up, had at some point in time been, "running around the yard, the coup, or the pasture"....it was easy for me to see the reality of nature. The piglets we played with in the spring....in a year or two were the breakfast bacon...or the Christmas ham. The rabbits we had handled and moved from pen to pen.....went from fuzzy little "alive rodents"....to the skillet in about 5 to 8 minutes. (I haven't butchered a pen raised rabbit in years....but I'd bet money that to this day it would take me less than 10 minutes to convert if from a furry little hopping creature.....to a sizzle in the skillet. That may sound "cold" to many people....but it has nothing to do with being heartless. We never mistreated our animals....but we fully understood their "end purpose".) And we were allowed to name them if we chose....but we still knew that most of them would become tablefare. It meant that meal...would include meat! And that was a "good thing".
You will not change her mind. Don't try! If she is going to have a "change of heart"....it will come from within herself. All you can hope to do is to show her that you are a "good human being"....and break down a stereotype that she probably has. And in due course....she may accept you for that....and I wouldn't expect much more. But remember in this instance....you can be either a "good Ambassador.....or a bad Ambasador"!
Good luck!
There really is "no logical argument" to make with an emotion based opinion. And to attempt to "discuss" the issue would probably only make her more steadfast in her "anti-hunting" beliefs.
All you can do is appreciate the "view" of those deer....and continue to be a good neighbor. Any thing you do for her should be without the expectation of ever "bringing her around". And who knows.....maybe years down the road.....when she truly believes that you are a "decent human being"...not a "murderer of defenseless animals", she may also alter her thinking. But there is probably not a thing in the world you could do....to persuade her differently now. Her beliefs are most probably the results of years of exposure to the "bambi syndrome".....and being raised "insulated" from obtaining food with her own two hands.
We have several generations of people in today's society that have not directly participated in the "preparing of their food from field to table". They have been raised in a society that all the "dirty work" is behind them...by the time their food hits their table. Having been raised where much of our food, when I was growing up, had at some point in time been, "running around the yard, the coup, or the pasture"....it was easy for me to see the reality of nature. The piglets we played with in the spring....in a year or two were the breakfast bacon...or the Christmas ham. The rabbits we had handled and moved from pen to pen.....went from fuzzy little "alive rodents"....to the skillet in about 5 to 8 minutes. (I haven't butchered a pen raised rabbit in years....but I'd bet money that to this day it would take me less than 10 minutes to convert if from a furry little hopping creature.....to a sizzle in the skillet. That may sound "cold" to many people....but it has nothing to do with being heartless. We never mistreated our animals....but we fully understood their "end purpose".) And we were allowed to name them if we chose....but we still knew that most of them would become tablefare. It meant that meal...would include meat! And that was a "good thing".
You will not change her mind. Don't try! If she is going to have a "change of heart"....it will come from within herself. All you can hope to do is to show her that you are a "good human being"....and break down a stereotype that she probably has. And in due course....she may accept you for that....and I wouldn't expect much more. But remember in this instance....you can be either a "good Ambassador.....or a bad Ambasador"!
Good luck!
01-12-2004, 09:47 AM
#16
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,555
RE: Aggrevating situation.
You did good by not pushing the issue. Makes all of us bowhunter look better. Thank you!
As for those deer, Where are they coming from? is there another piece of property you could get permission to hunt that the deer travel thru to get to this field?
As for those deer, Where are they coming from? is there another piece of property you could get permission to hunt that the deer travel thru to get to this field?
01-12-2004, 01:07 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Onamia,MN.
Posts: 1,375
RE: Aggrevating situation.
Respect what she said and leave her alone would be my advice.What she wants people to do or not do on her land is her choice--it's that simple.Pushy hunters can also bother people--ALOT.JMHO.
01-12-2004, 07:34 PM
#20
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Georgia
Posts: 263
RE: Aggrevating situation.
I'll probably wait til next year and ask her if I can take my son out to the field he will be 2 then. And let him watch them. At least that way she can see that I'm not just about killing. And it will give me a great chance to introduce my son to big game in a fun not-so-quiet way.
Not only will it allow her to see that hunters arn't all just brutal killers. But it will be great to let my boy learn how deer act and react without worring about trying to keep quiet and hunt. Oh btw I live in Carrollton, GA.
Not only will it allow her to see that hunters arn't all just brutal killers. But it will be great to let my boy learn how deer act and react without worring about trying to keep quiet and hunt. Oh btw I live in Carrollton, GA.