Father, I have done wrong...
 

[:' (] I am borrowing my father-in-law' s crossbow. I tell everyone that I cannot stand crossbows because I think they are cheating, but I haven' t got many shots within a comfortable bow range this year. Go ahead, shoot me now...[X(]

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Whatever, Man! It' s your life. I can' t keep you from doing drugs either.:D;)

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I always get onto my friends because they all use crossbows, and I tell them that they might as well be hunting with a gun. Yeah, crossbows work, but you lose your bolts almost 99.9% of the time, too. I' m just going to try and tag my doe with the crossbow, and stick to my compound for nailing that big buck.

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Your using a crossbow because you havent had a deer within your range of a compound????? How far you planning on taking one with the xbow???? Would seem anout the same wouldnt it?????

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Hey if you want to use the x bow more power to you. But what I don' t understand is how not having anything in bow range has anything to do with using an x bow. Using the x bow isn' t going to make deer magically appear in your shooting lanes. An x bow does not have any more down range accuracy then your compound. Good luck getting one.

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You can' t use a crossbow on deer in Oklahoma unless you' ve got some doctor' s signature. I' d love to use one.

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avid you need to talk to some folks who use crossbows, they do not have the range of a compound and drop like a lead brick after 20 yards. Do not beleive the myth about a crossbow being like a gun, it' s not!

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I just don' t feel comfortable shooting 30+ yards with only 55lb. draw weight. If I' d had a xbow i could have shot this nice big healthy doe out by my house last sunday. I ended up spooking the bedded doe trying to get within range of at least 20 yards. With no cover, I couldn' t draw my bow back in the wide open, but a cross bow, i could have just aimed and shot. Get my point?;)

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I wonder why they make scopes for xbows that range upto 50 yds? I thought they could at least shoot 35 yards and still take down a deer?

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Move your stand, watch the wind and scent, just get closer to the deer. And for God' s sake get out of your house to hunt.:D

Greg

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avid I am not saying a crossbow can not kill a deer at 50 yards, what I am talking about is that beyond 20 yards in comparison to a modern compund they are not as accurate and the drop between 20 & 30 yards with a crossbow is a lot more than with a compound. You are buying into the crossbow hype, like I said talk to CD, he used to shoot a compound until health issues forced him to swithch to a crossbow. He stated flat out that he would prefer to shoot a compound over a crossbow anytime. CD has hunted for years and will not take a shot over 20 yards with his crossbow.

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I have both a compound and a crossbow. The crossbow is a Horton Yukon. It hits dead on at 15 yards every time with a rest shooting the exact same way. But at about 20 yards, with a rest it seems like it kind of starts slinging the arrows. One shot will be dead on, the next will be a kill shot but maybe not exactly where you would want. I killed one with it at about 30 yards once but it was quartering away. I' d say anything between 20-30 yards with my crossbow and you had better get a quartering shot or you may completely miss and get no vitals.

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avid_bowhunter2005 - The range of a crossbow is not more than that of a compound if you practice. Changing weapons will not increase your effective range and with the bulky, loud crossbow you might find yourself at a greater disadvantage when its all said and done.

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First off they make them because people buy them. They surve no practical purpose at all.

They can but your 55# compound can do it better and more accuratly.

A crossbow is not a merical item that will solve your problems. You need to be patiant, move your stand, try a diffrent area. Most of all you need to practice more. A lot more if you think you need to have a range of 35+ yards

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First of all, please change your username from " avid" bowhunter to " fair weather" bowhunter. You are about as avid a bowhunter as a whore is a choir singer. How long have you bowhunted? Do you expect the deer to just fall over dead for you? That is why they call it hunting. Perhaps you should buy your meat at Piggly Wiggly. [:' (]

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Wolfen, what the hell?? I just had to reply to you and say I am
ROTFLMAO!!! Give em hell dude!!!!;)

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To jump on the back of Wolfen....

Avid...what do you think hunting is?? Something that is easy to do and just bam a person is sucessful? If it were easy...it wouldn' t be fun. Looks like the deer are out smarting you. Even doe. he, he

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LMAO!!!! give the guy a brake, when all else fails, u gotta blame something or someone:D

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hey taz. i shoot a HORTON LEGEND SL crossbow and i use the same cross hair at 30 yrds as i do on the 50 yrd shot. so much for dropping like a rock. i shoot heavy bolts also use carbon bolts from carbon express and 125 4 blade muzzy braod heads. flies great at ranges up to 50yrds. i wouldnt take a shot that far at an animal but it is good to know that it will hold straight at that distance.

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Teamster , I would like to see that. I shoot a horton like yours.I use the Horton bolts with a 125 thunderhead. Shoots a great pattern.But at 40 yards I would have to aim a foot above the back to hit the vitals compared to 20 yards dead on. I' ve shot 14 deer with mine. Plus at 50 yards the noise the x-bow makes gives the deer a chance to leave the scene before the bolt even arrives. Maybe I' m missing something here.But I would burn mine in a heart beat if I could use a compound. And the reason they supply scopes for the x-bow is to pump up the hype and sales.they want you to think it is that much superior. Baloney

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I personaly have never used a crossbow but after shooting with a guy at the archery range one day who was using a crossbow I left with the idea that the crossbow was no more effective than a compound at any range. I was actually outshooting him by a longshot - He was not experianced with the crossbow at all though but I still saw no advantage other than you do not have to draw and the use of a scope - which is I know a big plus because of lack of movement and the scope itself....I was actually very surprised by the compounds performance and it made me wonder what all the hype is about regarding crossbows.

More on your post - it seems to me that if you are getting relatively close perhaps you should move your stand 10-20 yards IF possible or just practice a little patience..... remember - bowhunting has never been easy and its not just about the kill.... being a proficiant bowhunter has a lot more to do with planning and execution of your hunt plan to put you in bow range than anything else. It' s FINE if you are not comfortable with a shot over 20 yards..... simply concentrate more on a plan to get a little closer...... I know its a simple sounding solution but you have plenty of time to get a deer..... and if you are seeing plenty its only a matter of time before you are in that 20 yard position, and send one into the bioiler room......

Dont give up on the bow so fast...... sticking it out is what will make you a better bowhunter - not switching weapons mid stride.
Good luck and happy hunting....:)

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I am with cardeer about your Horton Legend. My brother shoots the legend. There is no possible way you can use the same crosshair at 50 yards as you do with 30 yards. Sighted in at 20 yards with the " dial a range" set on 2 you have to click it up to the 5 position to shoot 50 yards and that is with 2219 eastons and 100 grain tips. You are looking at probaly 10 to 12 inches of drop between 30 and 50 yards. This is just my observation while shooting 3-d shoots with my brother. There is no way the legend can hang with a good modern compound for the arrows down range dropage. JMO

Is " dropage" really even a word?? Oh well you get the gist of what I am saying whether it is a word or not.

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avid I am hoping you have decided against the crossbow for both your sake and the deers after the about statements on crossbows versus compounds. More practice, pateince and getting closer to the deer are part of the thrill of bow hunting.