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CLOUD 9, MN 10-30-2003 08:38 PM

100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I was at the archery shop today and a guy was shooting a 100 lb. draw weight Bowtech Samson. I wish I knew what that guy eats for breakfast.......when he drew the bow, it looked like he was pulling 40 lb. He said the KE was 118. He shot a Bear and deer with it so far with it. Needless to say he blew through them!

Good Luck!

bscofield 10-30-2003 08:40 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
For pete' s sake!! I can' t even imagine that much weight! Was the guy built or what?

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RackLuster 10-30-2003 09:20 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Were you at the shop just off Division in St. Cloud by Waite Park? Is that place still there? I used to do some video shoots there to get ready for the season.

100 pounds, incredible! With my crappy shoulder I' m pushing it when I shoot 60 pounds.

Did you have any luck at Ripley? I went the first hunt and saw nothing but does and turkeys. My buddy filled his extra doe tag.



tabby 10-30-2003 11:59 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
By friend shoots 90 like nothing, and he is RIPPED. I wonder how he would do at 100? That is crazy.

bigcat fhsu 10-31-2003 12:03 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
60 will get er done but if you can handle more my hats off..........anything to help not wound them is a benefit not just hi tech crap.[:-]

maytom 10-31-2003 12:29 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Shooting a 100lb draw weight bow inside an archery shop in a T-shirt, is very different than shooting that same bow out of a treestand at the end of November while you were sitting in that stand for 5 hours and the temps are 34 degrees!!;)

PABowhntr 10-31-2003 05:12 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I have to admit that I would be hard pressed to draw that puppy back. Though, a month or so back I had the opportunity to draw back a 94 lb PSE Nova with Vector wheels and did not have much of a problem (see maytom' s post above though). But there is a big difference between those vector wheel and the Bowtech single cam....:D

Tazman 10-31-2003 05:23 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
That is some serious weight, my elbow is not real good right now, I wouldn' t dream of going over the 70 I am pulling now.

JeramyK 10-31-2003 05:32 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
If you work up to it, it' s not that bad. It' s all about conditioning.

My last bow was a PSE Fire-Flite Elite with 100lb limbs. I was shooting it up until last month. When I would start practicing for the season I' d start at 85lb and then add a couple pounds every couple weeks until I was at the bows peak weight.

Straightarrow 10-31-2003 05:44 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I hope he' s shooting a sturdy arrow.

comndr45 10-31-2003 05:58 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
A monster I used to work out with with biceps the size of my thighs hunted with a 120lb bow. I don' t know who made it, and it might have been a completely custom job. I' m a big guy and could probably draw the 100lber, but I can' t imagine why on the local deer. If I went to Africa, I' d be all for it. I think 80lb is mandatory in some African countries. I' m actually considering dropping down to the mid 60' s and using a slightly lighter arrow from Forge.

98Redline 10-31-2003 06:18 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
He must be shooting fletched telephone poles for arrows, just for enough spine.

KE over 100 ft-lbs, that is just an insane number! Out of a bowtech no less. I wonder how fast that arrow was moving?

Just think about that, if he were shooting the minimum of 5gr/lb that would put his arrow at 500gr...ABSOLOUTE MINIMUM WEIGHT.

Sick......just sick.

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adams 10-31-2003 07:22 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I wonder if shooting ke over 100 would make you more accurete and longer distance shots. It would make sence to me but I don' t want to rip up my back to do the reserch. [:o]

JeramyK 10-31-2003 08:08 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 


ORIGINAL: Navy

So what are the benefits of 100lbs over 70lbs? At some point it must be overkill. Any thoughts.
It is overkill unless you' re hunting big game where you want the best penetration. There is little difference in arrow speed but a big difference in kinetic energy. That' s the biggest benefit.

HANKFAN 10-31-2003 09:09 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
If I were your friend I would shoot a 2" cut expandable broadhead. Talk about a short tracking job!!!!!;)

tbonecpa 10-31-2003 09:10 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
My last two bows both made in excess of 85 lbs of energy and I only hunt whitetails with them. The more KE the more you can crowd the shoulder and avoid paunch hits. I am not a big guy (6' 2" ,220 lbs) but had no problem working up to 80lbs. The problem for most people is they don' t use their " bow drawing" muscles for much other than drawing a bow. I shoot my bow just about year round and I waterski all summer. Waterskiing works the same muscles used to draw a bow. Proving this fact are the friends of mine that are bigger than me that can' t draw my bow.

Granted, all that KE usually ends up in the ground past the deer but if you hit bone penetration is still excellent. One other benefit is that my current setup will be effective for any animal on this continent. Cold days are tough though and it is a good idea to draw your bow hourly to keep loose.

o2bebowhunting 10-31-2003 09:19 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
whats the difference in burying a arrow 4 inches in the ground or 24? its still a kill. i will take my 52 lb and hold it for 5 minutes at full draw over that 100 lber any day.

Bmott 10-31-2003 11:45 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I have shot heavy bows all my life, some in excess of 100lbs. and some recurves in excess of 80 lbs. The bottom line is the weight does not kill the animal. A sharp broadhead does when it hit' s where it is supposed to. My point is you have to be able to hit where you aim consistantly otherwise all the weight in the world won' t help you. This applies to us all.

bmott

Huntmaster305 10-31-2003 12:14 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
100lbs. is insane. I have a friend that shot a 200lb. hog and a 135lb. deer with a 60lb. buckmaster G2, Goldtip 55/75, and Rocket 125gr. buckblaster 2 3/4" expandable head. Both made about a 3 yard stagger and looked like they had a 5 gallon bucket of blood dumped on them. there is no need to hold that much weight if you put the arrow in the right place.

ARMallardSlayer 10-31-2003 06:40 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
With the technology we have today, you don' t have to shoot that kind of weight. So why would you want to?

Look at me, Look at me........I can pull back a 100 pound compound.....


If you want to impress me, pull back and hold a 100 pound longbow.

JeramyK 10-31-2003 06:54 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 


ORIGINAL: ARMallardSlayer

With the technology we have today, you don' t have to shoot that kind of weight.

That' s EXACTLY why I got a new bow last month. My old 10yr old bow might have had a high draw weight but it doesn' t have todays technology. My new bow is lighter, quieter, faster, etc. No complaints here.


Josh_E 10-31-2003 07:33 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
besides I bet you in 5 years he wont be able pull it back without some amount of pain.. Im sure there is some damage to his rotator cuff, cartilage, or ligaments.. when he drops down to 50 and your pulling back 70.. then youll be saying.. I told ya so

CLOUD 9, MN 10-31-2003 08:01 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
It was the other Pro shop in St. Cloud, MN ......Mike' s Archery. Its a good shop!


Good Luck!

high country ultra force 10-31-2003 08:43 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Man with that kinda KE i would use those Jack-Hammers (i thunk they' re made by wasp???) expandables w/ a 3 1/2" cutting dia. that would do a # on any animal as far as im conserned.

bobcat 10 10-31-2003 08:52 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
man i can pull back that bow with my finger.ha ha ha. that guy must be huge .


go deep hunt hard.;)

Donald Fry 11-01-2003 06:57 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
100 lbs makes me pucker......... been shooting 60 lbs forever and starting to have shoulder problems, couldn' t even think about going higher, have had pass throughs on all deer except one.[:-]

rcd567 11-01-2003 07:29 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
30 years ago I knew a guy by the nickname of Animal. He shot a hundred with a 35 percent let off.[:o] Worked at a packing plant lugging beef. About 29 years old and at the physical peak of his life. Wonder whatever happened to him? I remember he shot the biggest mule deer I ever saw on a trip to Colorado back then.

joeturse 11-01-2003 07:57 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Guess I' m getting old,my 60 lb. bow is about all I can handle.:D

Joe

urlacher54 11-01-2003 09:41 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I saw a video with Walter Payton and he was shooting 100# bow with two fingers and that was 12 years ago before they came out with these 75 and 80% letoff

MR. BOWTECH RD 11-03-2003 09:51 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
One of the reasons we make the 100# Samson is because before John and I started BowTech, when I started bowhunting no one would make a bow for me at the draw weight I wanted. We only sell them to 100# but my personal bows range from 115# - 148#' s. If you ever shot an animal with this K.E. you' d keep shooting the #' s.[>:]

I shoot a 28.5" ACC 3-71 with a 75 grain Rocket Meteorite expandable, total arrow weight is 425 grains. I just ordered myself some limbs to build a 04' Patriot @ 120# and a set for 130#. :D

My flight record for Unlimited compound regular flight was set using a 195# bow. Yes, I have shot 115# to 150# for 17 years and as long as I' m able will continue to do so. I do specific exercises for building up the same muscles I use for pulling a bow.

Jack Smith[&:], a friend of mine that moved to Oregon when we moved production there only weighs 150# and could pull 120#. The most I' ve ever pulled was 225#, That was about 8 years ago, I wouldn' t make a habit out of drawing that #, probably couldn' t pull it right now.[:' (]

I don' t pull the weight to brag[X(], I shoot it so I have the confidence in my bow to know if I make a mistake and hit ANY bone I' m going through it. [8D]

Oh, I only hold 18 - 20#' s at full draw, so it' s no more difficult to shoot than any other bow. [8D]:):D

CBM SC 11-03-2003 10:08 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Mr.Bowtech RD.......

Someone will have to ask.....so why not me ???

If you are shooting a 425 grn arrow at 120 # .........that' s like 3.5 grains per pound. I find that interesting.........do you feel like your bows are plenty capable of shooting that light of a grain per pound ? I shoot exactly 5 grains per pound and think this is interesting if they are plenty tough enough to be shot at those kinds of spec' s !!! ;)


MR. BOWTECH RD 11-03-2003 09:37 PM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
Yes, I do enough dry - fire and stress testing to ensure our bows will stand up to the torture that I can put them thru. We don' t recommend that you shoot extremely light arrows.[>:]
But I' m also not going to hold myself liable if something were to happen to my own bow, we are dealing with man-made parts so I' m not saying you should do the same as I do.[:' (]

CBM SC 11-04-2003 07:32 AM

RE: 100 lb. pull Bowtech Samson. WOW!
 
I understand !!!!

Thanks and I' ll be looking at your new line very seriously this year !! ;)



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