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Just curious.
How many people have run into someone in the woods, and the person acted like the property was theirs, and they try to run you off when the land is yours or you have permisson?
Have you hunted property that is not posted, without landowner permisson, only to have someone else, who does not have permission, tell you to leave or that they are going to turn you in?
2 years ago I was hunting this patch of timber that was by my inlaws old place ( we had used part of it to ride a 3 wheeler in for years without anybody ever saying anything). My inlaws moved in town for health reasons. I was new to hunting so I went back to these woods because I knew that other people were using them for hunting. I told this one guy( that was using the woods ) that I had seen a real nice buck in there. The next thing you know my stand gets stolen, and I get a letter on my windshield that says " this is your only warning, next time I will turn you in" . I heard that the truck that pulled up next to mine had been seen at this guys house before( his hunting buddy ).
I went to the courthouse to find out who owned the land. 2 older ladies who lived in Missouri had inherited it. After talking to them I found out that they didn' t want anybody hunting there. I haven' t gone back, but I was talking to another guy where I am now hunting on public land, and he told me that he knew that property, and had about 8 buddies hunting there. I knew that people were hunting in there, but I didn' t know that many were. I will never know where my stand ended up.

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if i were you I would call the ladies back and turn the people in.. and tell the ladies that you will keep check on it.. and maybe in the future they might let you hunt on it for helping them out and keeping unwanted tresspassers off

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I had this happen to me yesterday. I ran into a guy in the woods that tried to chase me off the property I was hunting and it wasn' t even his. He said there are already enough hunters on the property and that it was too crowded. Meanwhile the property isn' t posted and the landowner is my landlord. I had full permission to hunt there but none of them have ever asked ! [:@] That burns me up. I told my landlord about it yesterday and he said he' d look into it. I told him where these guys were parking their vehicles so he could track them down.

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I have ran into people like that...big problem on our land, and since its only 56 acres and the people that used it all the time lived right by it they were impossible to catch just about unless you just ran into them...they were riding 4 wheelers, setting traps, etc. and this was our prviate land! I called the sheriff and they said that unless I caught them in the act and got him out there while they were there, nothing would ever come of it...i couldnt even press charges. i told the people repeatedly not to go out there and that they had no permission from the landowner (myself). finally, i just gave in and found somewhere else to hunt...it is really annoying though to go out and hunt and have some kids ride up on a four wheeler when the deer are already really skittish...

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Bowhuntrey (and really ANYONE with similar problems) you need to just backtrack those 4 wheeler tracks to see where those redneck trespassers are entering your land from. These people are typically VERY lazy and typically follow the same patterns each time. Once their " entrance" is found, you should buy some roofing nails, paint them brown or black and then pour them out along their " route" . Once they blow each tire out at the same time, they will " get your point" and will learn to stay away then. If they dont, do it again and keep repeating until they get it through their heads. Handle the nails with gloves and always throw the spraypaint can away after each use (dispose of the cans in an area untraceable back to you). Keep NO reciepts of paint, nails etc and pay cash. That way even in the REMOTEST of possibilities that for some reason they could get a law enforcement officer to " investigate" it (which they wouldnt because they are TRESPASSING!), they have NO WAY to prove you did anything!

FIGHT DIRTY REDNECKS WITH EVEN DIRTIER TACTICS!!!
RA

ps
Also might consider having some Posted signs hung that read: " NO trespassing, those found here at night WILL be found here in the morning!!!" :D:D

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RA,

I like the sign...similar to the " NO TRESPASSING: violators will be shot, survivors will be prosecuted" . I considered the nail strip idea, but was told that they could sue and more than likely win even though they were on our land without permission. believe me, it barely held me back...

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Trail cam with no trespassing sign in the backgound will work wonders. Usually a registered letter with the picture in it will stop all of the property line problems. Especially if its the younger generation of the house and Mom and Pop get the letter.
B

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A good friend of mine purchased 20 acres and built a nice house on it. He was sitting out on his porch one morning and some guy was putting up a stand about 100 yards away! My bud walked over and asked him if that was a good spot. The guy told him to get off his land or he would turn him in for interfearing with a hunter. My bud had his Cordless Phone from the house with him and handed it to the guy and told him to call. The guy called and the game warden came out. He asked a few questions, and it turned out that the hunter had made a wrong turn and was setting up his " stand" about 1 mile from where he thought he was. He had never been to his family land but from the directions he was told there was a new house and the land went to within 30 feet of the north side. My bud told him that had a choice to help him move a wood pile, or pay the fine! He chose to move the wood pile. The game warden said that would be OK and the guy helped my friend move the wood pile. After lunch they got to talking and it turns out the guy had about 150 acres and only gun hunted it. Since my bud had been cool about the whole misunderstanding and kept a light tone he told him that he would let him bowhunt there if he helped him put up his stands.

Now the guy stays at my buds house during gun season and they all get to hunt the land.

They don' t all end up bad!

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That' s a touchy situation. You know that the other people don' t have permission to be there, but by the same token you don' t either. So in essence, you' re both wrong. As for stealing your stand - that' s just BS, but it' s a whole other story if you want to get into hunters hurting other hunters.

As someone else mentioned - I would call the ladies back and see if you can' t make them a deal. You' ll watch their land and keep trespassers off if she agrees to let you hunt there. That' s the deal I have with the people who own much of the land I hunt on. In fact, they originally told me no when I asked for permission then they came back to me a year later and said they had so much trouble with trespassers that they would be more than glad to let me hunt if I would help them out. So ya never know, it might work out for the best.

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Last year I had two guys walk under my stand while I' m sitting there in blaze orange. They weren' t even going to say anything until I asked them if they had permission from the owner to be there. Of course they said they did, funny thing is I own the land and didn' t give anyone permission and it' s posted. I know several guys that think they can hunt an area because they grew up there and hunted it all their lives. It doesn' t matter to them who buys it or how many posted signs are there. In NY you can sign paperwork to " arrest" someone for trespassing. The police don' t have to see them there as long as you did. If you have people with you the more witnesses the better.

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Couple of years ago hunting on game lands that I access through private land with permission (landowner even requires parking passes or he' ll tow away!) I' m taking down my stand in the dark, and saw a light walking toward me. This seemingly courious hunter starts questioning me on how I got there. As I explained my story, he became enraged and started yelling at me and telling me I had permission from the wrong person. After speaking with the landowner again, he told me that particular hunter was giving alot of people a hard time and he revoked his hunting pass!!!! Now that' s justice!!!

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Hey Wrongway, if you know there are 8 guys ther hunting now, then wait til the middle of the week and go back to the property and take your pick of the litter of stands that are surely there now.;)
Sometimes you just have to say " Just let it go" other times you just have to say " An Eye For An Eye!" ;):D[&:][8D]

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I own a small acreage and have had trespassers on it several times. I live on the property also. I usually just run them off. Had a couple guys on 4 wheelers start running around the house after I ran them off. I decided it would be a good time to set up some cans and do some target practice with my 44 magnum. Another time I was eating lunch and a couple bowhunters came walking right through my yard. I went down to meet them and ask if they knew who' s property they were on? They said, probably yours? Good guess, now get! They did.

And finally, I would never hunt unposted land without the owner' s permission. In Iowa, the land does not have to be posted. Its still trespassing even if it isn' t posted. Please Obtain Permission. This comes from a frustrated land owner.

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We actually had some trespassers putting out corn on our property. They had a homemade feeder, made out of a 5 gallon bucket and stuck in the ground with a spike. Luckily we found it before the season began and disgarded their feeder and put a nice little posted sign where the bucket was and stuck it in the ground with their spike.

One year we found where some gyus had climbed trees with foot spikes. Tracked out to their camp which was on some other property and gladly let them know they had been trespassing.

My dad had a guy shoot a deer on our property about 100 yards away from him and shot in his direction with a rifle. He confiscated the young 8 pointer in exchange for not calling the DNR.

Our biggest problem is guys setting their stands up on the property lines, with only one way to shoot and that is on our property. We gladly do all we can to make their hunting trips inconvenient by walking by them and making lots of noise.

Oh well, so far no problems this year but gun season is just beginning and that is when we get most of the problems.

Good luck to all this year!

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I hunt about 900 ac in southern Il a few weeks ago i set my game camera up on a trail, it rained that night and the next morning when i returned it was gone i followed the 2, 4 wheeler tracks down the road and since it was a monday i knew it was' nt kidds. long story short I know who did it i trailed the tracks back to his house. He was a little supprised when i pulled in the drive way and asked him if he had seen any 2 guys with 4 wheeler' s running around, he said that there ae some people down the road with one but haddent seen anyone. Dose he think that I;m stupid!! next time i find them there I am thinking about chaining there 4wheeler' s to a tree and calling the game warden" these guys are notoruois for poaching at night" and have a slew of antlers on a board around the driveway and after checking the local county map they only have 11ac.

[:@]I look at it this way, if you do not have permission from the land owner keep out " Your not paying the taxes on that land the owner is"

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As for as taking someone' s stand in retaliation, I had the chance to, but I couldn' t take revenge without being positive I got the right person. I ran into 3 other stands that didn' t have locks, but I did not want to take the wrong persons stand.
The last thing that I heard about the property, was that it was tied up in the courts and waiting to be sold. I would love to buy it, but property there goes for top dollar. My inlaws sold their 3 acres with a small 2 bedroom house, small old barn, and tiny pond for $92,000. I think that there is 80 acres of timber and 100 tillable acres.

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dont take anyone' s stand because then you are just as wrong as they are... and if something did come up with you being able to hunt the land then there goes your shot... as for the stolen camera.. someone suggested that everytime you load a new roll of film do the first pic.. with you infront of the camera holding asign with your phone number saying " If i did not turn in this film please call this number because this camera is stolen." which I think isnt a bad idea.. also for trespassers.. put up cameras like mentioned and turn them in to the appropriate authorities

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Last year on Opening morning, I encountered 3 different guys all claiming to have permission to hunt land only I have permission for. This year, it was 3 DIFFERENT guys. I saw a ladder stand on the way in on opening day afternoon, but no one was in it. At around 6pm I watched a small 6 point walk by and someone was now in the stand. He shot it and it died directly under me! I called him and showed him where the deer was and he claimed to have permission, but was wrong about the property lines.