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The Frustration, Please Help!
:rant: Can some of you please give me tips on how to sight in our bows!? I feel like my boyfriend and I are not getting anything accomplished!! Also, he is looking over his glasses and into the peep sight. Any tips to get him to stop? Thank you in advance!
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when sighting in remember to chase your arrow with your sights, use gang adjustments to get close (move the whole sight) then adjust individual pins.. if your hitting high and right, move your sights up and to the right... a little goes along way.... as far as looking over his glasses, practice practice practice and if that doesnt work try a peepless system such as sabo or IQ( or maybe a bigger peep) ... research and practice good archery form first and formost, bad form makes good shooters bad!!!
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If Your Boyfriend is looking over His glasses then thru the peep sight the point of impact is going to be off and hard to adjust,You need to be Consistant and Repetative each time to be accurate!I would also reccomend reading up on adjusting Your Bow or taking it to a Reputable Bow Shop for more Professional help on moving any sights or rest and proper shooting techniques!
P.S. ArkansasMountainMan has some great info there....! |
I'd definitely take it to a pro shop if you haven't already. They'll paper tune your bow for you, otherwise you'll be chasing your arrows all over the target and not get any closer to sighting them in.
As far as looking over the glasses and into the sight, just tell him to knock it off. After all, what's he wearing em for if he's not using em?? I know it can be a pain to shoot with glasses, but it's a waste of time if you can't see what you're doing. |
Thank you everyone. We have taken it to a shop and he is doing good with his bow, but I felt my draw length wasn't right at all and I just feel like when we go out shooting we aren't getting anything accomplished. Very frustrating and I have no patience so it makes it hard to just not give up, so we usually stop for a while then go back out. I have told him numerous times, wish we could afford contacts for him.
Another question, are the pins 10, 20, & 30 or 20, 30, & 40? |
I'm not starring in a TV bowhunting show yet, but I do have an idea about the pins. You set them for what you want. I do the 20, 30, 40... yard thing, only because I haven't ever been 10 yards from any prey yet. Do what you need. How close are you going to be? My bet is that you will be further than closer.
Most importantly, have fun with it. |
Has your boyfriend thought about getting contacts? When I first started to bow hunt, I had glasses and they would fog up. I switched to contacts and it's been good ever since. As far as sighting in your bows, you have to have good shooting form and repeat it every time. You have to make sure that you use the same anchor point. I always have the bow string touching the tip of my nose but you can also use a kisser button. And my knuckles are locked in behind my jaw bone. I use a thumb release and that has improved my shot groups, coupled with a drop away rest. When you release your arrow, don't drop your bow arm until you hear the arrow hit the target. That is very important. Like the people said before, go to a pro shop and get some help. The ones we have around here are crackpots, so I drive an hour away, just so I can get top notch service. I'm very fussy about my bow setup and feel everyone that bow hunts owes it to the game they hunt to make sure they are setup the best they can be. Good luck to you and your boyfriend.
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To Answer your pin yardage question, I would say set them at 20, 30 and 40. My 20 yard pin is what I use at 15 yards, it shoots the same as 20 yards.
When it comes to getting frustrated while shooting and sighting in. I would suggest only shooting a few arrows at a time, then take a break, You will be more accurate. Also make sure your draw length is correct and your draw weight is set so you can comfortably draw your bow without a lot of movement with your bow arm, and make sure your anchor point is consistent. Hope this helps. Edit. Do what VTBoneCollector says |
Sorry, didn't read all the posts. As far as the pins go, I have them set at 20, 30, 40, 50. Any deer that you shoot at under 20 yards, you will be fine with your 20 yard pin. I've shot
most of my deer with a bow at under 20 yards. You just have to aim low. |
I set the pins at 20, 30, and 40. You can use the 20 pin for 10 yards, if you have one get that close.
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Thank you for all the help guys I appreciate it!
Yes he has thought about contacts, but I am starting Physical Therpist Assistant school and can't work so money will be tight. We are working on getting a loan though, so maybe if we have extra he can get some!! |
Glasses and peep sights don't go together well for some people. Tell him to look at a Hind Sight
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My advice:
slow is better. Shoot smaller sets of arrows. I typically shoot strings of four or five. This gives me plenty of rest between strings. If I get frustrated, I stop - no sense developing bad habits. My pins are set for 20,30,40,50, & 60 - I have a 5 pin sight. I had a problem where I was floating my anchor. I solved this by having a kisser button installed. This went a long way toward getting my anchor squared away. Also. don't try to sight in all the pins at once. Sight in your two closest pins and be consistent before sighting in the rest. trying to sight in a pin when you're tired and your form is suffering will do nothing more than drive you crazy. Start fresh when sighting in. take frequent breaks. If you're not having fun while sighting your bow, you're doing it wrong. recognize that you will have good days, bad days, really bad days, and really, really good days. Don't push the bad days until you are confident you have all your pins set. |
What part of Kansas are you in? I know you said it was a bit of a drive to KC. Might help to get some hands on instruction.
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If he is looking over his glasses, unless he has his glasses pulled down intentionally, then his head is in the WRONG POSITION.
The shooter's head should NOT be leaned forward. You do NOT lower your eye to your sight, you raise the bow to your eye. Dropping your head puts your neck and back in a weak position that promotes instability in your shot, and looking out of the top, bottom, or side of your eye socket (i.e. your eye is not close to centered) hinders your visual acuity. I know you've mentioned this in other threads, but did you end up getting 2 bows, or only one for both of you to shoot? |
Nomercy448, we are an hour and a half to two hours from KC. We have a few places down here that we can take them to. We did one place, but they only slightly told us how to sight them in ourselves. Also, he just tried holding his head differently like you suggested and it worked tons. THANKS!! We got two seperate bows, one for him and one for me.
Has anyone used a little lazer pointer that you put on the end of your arrow to see where it would hit? |
Originally Posted by kay_bug07
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Nomercy448, we are an hour and a half to two hours from KC.
Originally Posted by kay_bug07
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Has anyone used a little lazer pointer that you put on the end of your arrow to see where it would hit?
IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS - LASER ARROW GUIDES ARE USELESS FOR SINGLE CAM BOWS. |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
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If he is looking over his glasses, unless he has his glasses pulled down intentionally, then his head is in the WRONG POSITION.
The shooter's head should NOT be leaned forward. You do NOT lower your eye to your sight, you raise the bow to your eye. Dropping your head puts your neck and back in a weak position that promotes instability in your shot, and looking out of the top, bottom, or side of your eye socket (i.e. your eye is not close to centered) hinders your visual acuity. I know you've mentioned this in other threads, but did you end up getting 2 bows, or only one for both of you to shoot? The rest is practice. Also some has to do with field tips vs broad heads because some broadheads will fly different than field tips...just be aware of that. |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
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There's a lot of Kansas that's 90-120mi from KC. I'm in Wichita, but I travel around the state a lot. Beyond just looking for shops near you, it's really not that hard to find an excuse to visit a range and do some instruction, just not sure where you might be located, to determine whether that was feasible or not.
These are terrible. Quite simply, they do NOT tell you where your arrow will hit. They only tell you where it is pointed when you turn it on. They give new shooters hope that they are actually sighting in their bow, but the reality is that the arrow, when the bow is at rest, is NOT pointing the same direction as when it is drawn (except for dual/binary/twin cam bows - which you don't have). You can get a little closer by drawing the bow, but to make adjustments to your bow with it drawn is incredibly dangerous, and I'd venture it's safe to assume that you don't own a draw board or hooter shooter. The lasers can get you on the target at 10yrds, but won't actually help you sight in - and for the cost, it's easy enough to eyeball your initial sight position. Rifle shooters that wanted to take up archery thought it'd be a good idea, since laser boresighters are all the rage these days, but a bow isn't a rifle barrel. IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS - LASER ARROW GUIDES ARE USELESS FOR SINGLE CAM BOWS. |
You should probably have a stabilizer. They help to balance your bow a little better. Not to sound like an a$$ but did you buy your bows at a pro shop? If you did then that shop needs to have better customer service or you need to find another shop that does a better job. I have to drive an hour away to get the service I want. Our shops around home don't have a clue on how to set up a bow correctly or just plain don't care.
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I have to agree with GTOhunter, consistency & repetitive equals accuracy. If he is moving his head then his anchor point is not consistent. I also solved this by having a kisser button installed as it made my anchor point consistent.
Grip pressure needs to be the same. I have a tendency to torque my hand when I grip my bow, so I installed a sight that shows when that is happening. These two additions really tightened my groups and I can consistently hit the end of a pop can out to 60 yards. My pins are 22, 32, 42 & 52. My bow shoots flat enough anything between 0-22 yards is the same point of impact (POI) with 1.5 inches. My only question is are the arrows hitting consistently? I do not care if they are accurate yet. If you aim at the same point on the target at 15 yards are 3 arrows grouping together consistently? Do not worry about hitting where you are aiming yet. Simply get the arrows to all group consistently. Then you can make adjustments to the sights and bring the group on target. If they are not consistent, what are you seeing? Arrows hitting the target at angles, bullet like flight but not consistent, etc... Is your bow on target? Frustrating... yes. Anything in life worth doing, at one point to another, is going to be. However, shooting a bow requires consistency in everything. Rarely does letting your frustration get the best of you promote consistency. This is supposed to be fun. Keep in mind that there is a solution and you will get on target. It could be bad form, grip pressure, torque, mechanical, etc... either way at some point you will be helping others learn this great sport and help offer advice. |
We bought them used, but took them to a shop and they helped us.
We are getting more consistant. |
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