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No, not hot bodies!!!;)

How many can see exactly where their arrow hits on impact? What I am getting at is this........I might know or think I know the general vicinity..........Heck, I hope I hit exactly where I aimed but....we don' t always.

I have always been told and tried to practice burning the pin on a hair of a animal, how can anyone see exactly where they hit the animal.........unless they are not concentrating on that pin? Just like shooting a target, how do you exactly know where you really did hit the animal until after the shot....NOT during the shot? I think this is partly responsible for marginal hits, trying to see where your arrow is hitting while shooting. JMO.

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Coug,
For me it depends upon lighting conditions and the color of my nock/vane combo mostly......I have some shots in my mind that I can still see as clear as a bell , and others where I couldn' t tell you where I hit the deer only that I was SURE the shot felt good.
The ones I couldn' t see were ususally early morning, weird light or late in the evening combined with poor choices in arrow colors....combined with 300fps speed doesn' t really help.;)
I shot a doe last year with my very pretty " Fall Woods" styled arrows (1 brown 2 orange barred feathers with dark orange nocks on camo shafts) looked really nice but when I shot that deer I saw NOTHING. Might as well have been a bullet.
I switched right back over to bright chartruese/white with white nocks and they show up great.

Being able to see where that arrow hit is a big help in proper game follow up , so I have officially sworn off arrows just for " Style" ........it' s all function now.[:-]

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I use XX78 Super Slam' s and use the two white and a green with a green nock. I can usually see where the arrow hits...but once in a blue moon I can' t see where the arrow hits and then it' s a long wait before the track starts.

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When I do everything corectly (same with practice) I can see my arrow hit it' s mark. This is kind of hard to explain but I dont " concentrate" on my pin! I concentrate on my target and my release. Maintaining eye contact with my target all the way through the shot is part of my shot sequence. When I dont see where my arrow hit it' s because I flinched , blinked , or something else out of the ordinary.

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Im like BOWFANITIC and dont concentrate on my pin, that come from a lot of target and indoor shooting. If I put all of my concentration on the target where I want to hit the pin just goes there and I dont even really see it. When I follow through correctly I will see the arrow fly through the sight aperture and hit where I aimed because Im still aiming there when the arrow hits its mark.

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I am with BOWFANATIC on this one. When I shoot my focus is burned in on the " spot" or hair that I am aiming at. It is impossible to focus on your pin AND your " spot" .........seeing how the target shouldn' t be moving (hopefully) it only seems logical to focus on your " spot" and let your pin float over it while you make a good clean release. It is impossible to hold a pin rock steady........the key is to get your muscles trained well so that you can hold steady long enough to allow a proper release which will then find it' s mark.

IMO it is much easier to focus on a " spot" then it is to follow a floating pin around.

I know where every arrow I shoot hits.........because I keep my bow up and stay focused on my " spot" after the arrow is gone and don' t let down until I see it strike it' s mark (hopefully) I think this is also a very useful tool in determining if your arrows are flying straight or not........you can pick up even the slightest bit of odd flight when you folow through in this manner.

Seems to work for me.........Of course I shoot white vains and white nocks too so that helps :D

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It' s easy to see where the arrow hits when you don' t have sights obstructing your view of the target. :) Your total concentration is burned exactly on that hair you' re aiming at with no pin/dot/crosshair in the way.

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Sometimes I see the shot impact, sometimes I don' t, and sometimes I have no clue where the arrow went. It all depends on lighting and distance.

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I like this post..interesting to see the replies. If you are shooting a compound bow with sights and are shooting 250fps or better, I don' t see how you can be sure where an arrow hits on a deer 20 yards away.

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I usually have a real good idea where it hits, but honestly it' s tough to tell exactly, especially over 20 yds. Wolfen' s right...the faster you shoot, the harder it is to tell. See..I knew shooting 240 had it' s advantages ;)

I' ve had a few that I knew were " perfect" hits, turn out to be not so perfect. Never trust your eyes...they can definitely play tricks on you.

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I dont concentrate on the pin. I concentrate on the spot I want to hit. ONce i have the pin on the spot my pin goes out of focus and the spot I am aiming for is where
all my concentration is. I try to stare a hole in the spot. I usually see the impact point. Not necessarily the arrow entering the animal but definatly the spot it went in.

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That about sums it up for me.

I think the arrows I did see hit were more from the arrow kicking a bit as it hit - showing a flash of fletching.

I have learned though to never trust what I thought happened. I have had complete misses turn into dubble lungers:)

But then again I shoot a Bowtech - so barring Superman - that arrow is impossible to see:D;)

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Exactly what I would have said......but also because of (lack of) lighting and whatnot


Ditto. I used to be into all camo this and that, had to have good dull woodsy colors...the heck w/ that chit. I wanna SEE where that arrow hits. I use very bright colors these days: Flo yellow, Flo Pink, FLo Red, and White. Doesn' t help that I' m not getting any younger and my eyes are not what they used to be.:D

:eek:[&o]:eek:[&o]:eek:<<<< me trying to see a camoed arrow & fletches on the way to the target and after the shot

[:-][:-]:D:D<<<<< me seeing my pretty pink and yellow fletches smack the exact spot I want to hit!

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Although I have only killed one deer with a bow I have shot thousands of arrows and can honestly say that as Rack-Attack said, if the arrow is flying true, I do not care what the fletching/nock color is, unless it kickes one way or the other it is invisibke!!!! I am amazed C903 has not replied to this one!

Rack-Attack and I are to much alike, I hope one day we can at least meet if not hunt together!

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While I did buy the camo arrows, (Carbon Terminator Express Hunters) I quickly learned I couldn' t see them so....White dipped, crested, chartruse and flor. orange vanes with a bright chartruse nock. Now I can see them and they look great too.:D

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I also usually see my arrow in flight and the impact point, exspecially if the sun is behind me. If shooting toward the sun, usually can' t see neither the flight or impact point.

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I was not paying much attention,but there was a bow huntin program on the other day. the guy and arrows that had some sort of orange light on the end. It was very low light conditions and you could follow that arrow right to the deer.

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When you program your brain to prepare (anticipate) for a specific action, the brain does not just stand by until you hit the ENTER key. If you tell yourself that you want to see the flight of the arrow and/or the impact location, you are going to consciously and/or unconsciously start the procedure before you make the shot. That is how dropping the bow too soon and " peeking" can occur.

I would bet that if some shooters were to evaluate their missed shots, step-by-step, they would realize that sometimes they remember more about seeing the flight of their arrow and/or the impact, more than they remember the shot and specifically what the quarry was doing at the time of the shot.

Each time a shooter has successfully killed a deer and remembers watching the flight of the arrow and seeing the impact point, that shooter' s belief that watching the arrow is ok, becomes reinforced. Very quickly, dropping the bow and peeking will become ingrained.

Once the arrow is on its way, watching the flight of the arrow will change nothing. The mental and physical action that comes in to play in order to watch the flight and see the impact can change many things. And often results in a missed shot.

I (personally) have a post-shot rhythm. Once I shoot, everything I have done to the point of shooting remains intact for a quick " three count." Sounds like a lifetime, but it is not.

I will go with " Wimp" and " Rack" on this one. Sometimes I might see the flight and or the impact, but not because I anticipated doing so.

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I can' t shoot both eyes open[:' (] It' s an eye dominace thing but I have on occasion seen the flight and impact but not routinely. I agree with others that you may have a tendency to drop and peek trying to see the impact which results in poor follow through. As c903 stated watching the arrow does nothing!

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If your doing everything correctly (for me anyway) there is no reason to " drop and peek" ! My intended target remains burned in the concentration of my shot sequence.

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I can' t see were my arrow hits.....