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Rickmur 09-15-2003 05:42 PM

A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Below is a letter to the editor that appeared in a New Jersey Nespaper (Courier Post) tonight. After the letter is where you can write in response Taz, I know you can come up with a good one.


Bow hunting
September brings hell to the deer of our state, for it is the opening month of bow hunting season.
Bow hunting is one of the most viÂ*cious and inaccurate ways to kill an anÂ*imal. Shooting an arrow into a living target is so difficult that, for every deer a bow hunter kills, another is shot and wounded but escapes. Most animals shot by arrows die by catastrophic blood loss, and often they die slowly, in excruciating pain. In fact, it is the very nature of bow hunting to wound aniÂ*mals.
“The rule of thumb has long been that we should wait 30 to 45 minutes on heart and lung hits, an hour or more on a suspected liver hit, eight to 12 hours

on paunch hits, and that we should folÂ*low U~ immediately on hindquarter and other muscle hits, to keep the wound open and bleeding.” Glenn HelÂ*geland, Fins and Feathers, Winter 1987.
“For a bow hunter to easily recover a wounded deer, the blood loss must be extensive.” Rob Wegner, Deer and Deer Hunting, August 1991.
Such violence, such crippling pain. And for what? Recreation Sport. Fun.
It is horrifying to think of any living creature dying in such a slow, agonizÂ*ing way. What makes this nightmares0 much worse is that it happens to tens of thousands of deer in our state every year. B ow hunting is barbaric enterÂ*tainjnent that best deserves to reside in the dark ages, not in the 21st century and not in a country that would deem itÂ*self humane
SmART CHAIFFj’rz
N.J. Wildlife and Environmentm Defense Alliance
Cherry Hill




Where to wiite
• Mail to: Letters to the Editor, Courier-Post, P.O. Box
5300, Cherry Hill, N.J. 08034.
• Fax: (856)663-2831.
• E-mail: [email protected]. Send as
plain text; no attachments.
Include name, address and phone number. Maximum
length: 250 words. Letters are subject to editing and may
be published in print, electronic or other forms.


Mike from Texas 09-15-2003 09:46 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Just bumping back to the top whilst I think of a reply.

bscofield 09-15-2003 09:55 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
geeze... come on! Instead of a response letter, what would be ideal is if this guy lived outside the city somewhere, we could rally all the hunters around his place to stop killing the deer and let the deer overrun HIS town, let them hit HIS cars and injure (or worse) HIS family friends, spread disease around HIS pets and family... Not wishing anything bad REALLY happens but just that he gets brought down to earth...[:' (]

BOWFANATIC 09-16-2003 03:52 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Sad part is it wouldn' t make a difference to them idiots! They' ve seen first hand what happens when hunting a species is outlawed. Look at the trouble New Jerseyans had to deal with after they outlawed bear hunting and it still didn' t sink in.
It sounds like another uneducated anti using their resources to spew their anti hunting bullsh**!!

You would probably get a better response by sending a rebuttle to a competing newspaper that isn' t run by anti' s!

Tazman 09-16-2003 06:13 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
mdbo why me? LOL Let me work on it, I will rob some from one of my prior editorials and see what I can come up with. Another person who may do a better job than me is TR. I will go over to his forum and give him a link to this and see if he might reply, he has a little more stature in the hunting/outdoors than I do.

PABowhntr 09-16-2003 06:37 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
I am both saddened and angered when I read this type of garbage. People should be held accountable for making statements not based on any type of fact. I guess that is what we are doing by sending the letters and emails though now isn' t it?

Consider it sent.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-16-2003 06:59 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 

I am both saddened and angered when I read this type of garbage. People should be held accountable for making statements not based on any type of fact. I guess that is what we are doing by sending the letters and emails though now isn' t it?

Consider it sent.
Frank, I couldn' t agree more.....problem is, it' s so easy to paint a bad picture for people to jump on the bandwagon for and it' s to easy for a left wing editor to publish it but it very, very difficult to write one promoting bowhunting and have it published......everyday we fight these battles, every day is another black eye for hunting because of the media.....they will never show the good in hunting, always the bad.

Rickmur 09-16-2003 07:08 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 

mdbo why me?
Because you did such a good job on that last one you did. I sent mine in and just to let you all know this paper does publish responses. Address your letters as such
" In reply to Bowhunting" . When I see any replys I will post them up. I would like to see this newspaper flooded with responses from our view as I am sure there will be responses from there' s as well.

Dacotah 09-16-2003 08:30 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
As far as excrutiating pain, most broadheads are so sharp, you can cut yourself and not know it until you see blood running down your hand. Maybe someone writing a response should mention this.

xibowhunter 09-16-2003 08:35 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
make us proud tazman!


Danny45 09-16-2003 09:30 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Instead of bashing this guy in the paper, or writing a very long rebuttal to all his ignorant ideas, a very short, to the point letter should be sent simply stating:

" This person has no knowledge of what bowhunting is, or does. Please seek out the facts before judging" .

This keeps you above this idiots mentality, and makes people think without boring them, or sounding like we' re whining. It also makes him look like the ingoramous that he is.

Tazman 09-16-2003 09:41 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
mdbo you have thrown down the gaunlet, I will pick it up, but before I start please find out what is the maximum number of words they will publish. The reason is I want to make sure the point is made without letting them " EDIT" the death out of the rebuttal.

BTW TR has already sent a rebuttal in, but I will do my part also.

Make sure you find out max # of words and I will start on it tomorrow.

PABowhntr 09-16-2003 09:48 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Rob,

What I find most amusing is that you do not see any hunters publicly bad-mouthing any of the anti-hunting groups. We tend to make more appropriate actions in regard to defending our sport. Maybe that is part of the problem though. We seem to do so much reactive stuff and not enough proactive measures.

Tazman 09-16-2003 09:53 AM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
PA I have always geared my rebuttals to be more educational than defensive or attacking. I always start off with this is in rebuttal to " Topic X" and then blind them with facts, not opinions or feelings. I have receieved several letters of support when using this tact and a newspaper is more likely to print something that is not an attack.

PABowhntr 09-16-2003 12:42 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 

I have receieved several letters of support when using this tact and a newspaper is more likely to print something that is not an attack.
Oh, I definitely think you would make more headway with a sound, rational argument based on facts as opposed to one geared strictly towards swaying emotions.


I always start off with this is in rebuttal to " Topic X" and ...
I think we are forced into that situation because the anti-hunting crowd is so much more vocal. Even the fact that you have to offer a rebuttal as opposed to being able to just state the facts without constantly addressing what anti-hunters have stated is part of what I was referring to as reactive. They almost force us into addressing the issues that they want to address and not necessarily the ones that should be used to educate.

I applaud you though for getting involved.

jagertiger 09-16-2003 01:14 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Maybe what we have to do is get all of this ingnorant short sighted people together and have them go to an over populated deer state like Wisconsin after a severe winter and pick up the deer carcasses that starved to death or watch while the deer are still alive but so weak that they can' t move and see if they have the same opinion about us ruthless and barbaric bowhunters. I have seen it. It was one of the worse site you can imagine in the world of animals. But they don' t see that because they are rightous in their just cause against barbarians.

Lowly Darton 09-16-2003 01:30 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
PABowhntr, I agree with you. Most of us are conservative. We would prefer just to be left alone. It takes crap like this to make us stand up & speak out. It seems as if we' re always defending ourselves & our sport.
A good offense is a good defense.
I have no idea how to start up a poll here, but I wonder how many people here donate meat or know someone who does to the needy. At least that' s going on the offense.
John

JoshKeller 09-16-2003 02:03 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 

Most animals shot by arrows die by catastrophic blood loss, and often they die slowly, in excruciating pain.

It is horrifying to think of any living creature dying in such a slow, agonizÂ*ing way. What makes this nightmares0 much worse is that it happens to tens of thousands of deer in our state every year.
Welcome to nature, people. I wonder if they' ve ever seen a fawn get taken down by a coyote and hear it BAAAHHHHH to its mother. Not everything in the living world is neat and pretty; In fact, almost none of it is.

Rickmur 09-16-2003 02:47 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
Taz....250 words. All the info is just after the letter in my original post. And thanks buddy, u da man.

Kanga 09-16-2003 03:04 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
I am sure this is the sort of person Jeff Foxworthy was talking about in his " here' s your sign" jokes

RedAllison 09-16-2003 03:05 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
I say a perfect lungshot into the granola eatin, leaf lickin, cat lover that wrote the story and he would see just how quickly and painlessly he would...

Take the dirt nap!!! :D
RA

BootLegger 09-16-2003 03:10 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
I say a perfect lungshot into the granola eatin, leaf lickin, cat lover that wrote the story and he would see just how quickly and painlessly he would...

RedAllison, Now that was funny!!


Troy1077 09-16-2003 03:17 PM

RE: A propaganda letter to the editor
 
whats wrong with eating granola? Loving cats I see bad in but granola...


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