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davidmil 09-06-2003 08:24 AM

RE: Not having a ' trophy' mounted- Is it Disrespect?
 
Yeh Yeh.... we know all about the war shield. Most of the Native American braves now own a casino[&:]..... I guess to honor the fallen cowboys? So the war shield depicted the warriors status? That' s what the folks who insist I let big ones grow so they can shoot them want too. They want to show off their status. A mount by any other name is still a mount. Nothing wrong with it of course.... but don' t tell me I' m not ethical if I don' t do it.

Cougar Mag 09-06-2003 08:36 AM

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I like Wolfens statement:

If you' re going to nail it to a " shed" and not even a barn, let someone else shoot it or let it die of old age.
Its the individual hunter' s decision to mount or not to mount a nice buck. But.....personally I will not shoot a record class buck if I don' t intend on getting it mounted. I can eat a nice doe better anyway.;)

dpv 09-06-2003 08:56 AM

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Where are those bull**** flags now?

The suggestion that you should let it walk because you aren' t going to decorate with it is a load of crap. Take the damned thing. You' ve done the scouting and you are doing the hunting. Take the pictures and hang the rack anyplace you want to and tell everyone else to kiss your butt. I have a nice country style house and I' m sure I could find somewhere to hang a nice shoulder mount but I also have 3 kids and with the money I have spent just on hunting supplies, there is no way I would drop the cash for taxidermy. If I get a buck, the antlers will be in my garage near the workbench and sawtable. May years from now when the kids are done with braces and college..../Maybe Again I see some of the same old attitude that drives me crazy. " Well I do it this way....and if you don' t, you are wrong" .

my 2 cents.

David

CAJUNBOWHNTR 09-06-2003 09:10 AM

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Pal, did you not read the entire thread?
Yes I did.I was using your statement to make a point.It was' nt intended to slight you.The point is and was that the decision to mount a deer should have nothing to do with the decision to kill a deer.


Davidmill you are just a natural born killer;)


CB


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Arthur P 09-06-2003 10:45 AM

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Davidmil, let' s follow that thought a ways further. If making money off the animal is disrespectful to the hunt, then what of guys like Chuck Adams, Bill Jordan, the Fitzgeralds, et al, who make their living at it? What about every single person that' s ever sold a hunting magazine article/video? What about every single person that' s endorsed a product with a hero shot in the advertising? For that matter, what of the manufacturers that pay for said endorsements and use those photos? What about the dealer that brings in and displays mounts to help draw in customers? Your thought says the entire industry is disrespectful toward the hunt.

And, in that way, I suppose it is.

But I didn' t say anything at all about SELLING parts of the animal I can' t use. There is always the option of GIVING AWAY the parts you can' t, or won' t, use to someone who will. The meat is only part of the whole package. The hide can be tanned and used for all kinds of things. The tendons and other sinews can be sun dried and used by the primitive bowyers for bow backings. Bones, antlers and such can be used for decorations and primitive tools. Hoofs, hide scrapings and cartilage can be boiled down for glue. There are still people that use a lot of animal parts that otherwise wind up as coyote food or wind up in the dump, and more people are taking up primitive archery all the time and need those items because they haven' t gotten them on their own yet.

Sure, someone can make money off all those things, if that' s what they want to do, but it' s no more disrespectful to the hunt than anything else being done by the industry at large. In fact, it' s more respectful in a way, because much more of the animal is being put to use instead of being allowed to simply rot away.

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davidmil 09-06-2003 10:54 AM

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might be the worst disrespect
The key word here is MIGHT. I was just playing the Arthur' s Advocate:D;)[&:][>:] and throwing some more fuel on the fire. If a guy can make a buck, more power to him. I think all the Bill Jordans etc of the world have done a great service to the bowhunters. Even though we like to throw stones and pick them apart from time to time, they mostly give bowhunting a little class and a bit of education for the public. Quite frankly, they' ve done an awful lot for the growth of the industry in the past 20 years. If it was just still the little ole crotchetty fart hanging in a tree with not press and stars, I probably would have had to turn in my bow a decade ago. SO, all I can say is if Bowdacious wants to use my horns to make money...... I want a piece of the action.[:-]

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Arthur P 09-06-2003 11:12 AM

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But you can' t deny that people are more liable to be drawn to your booth if you have a nice collection of mounts to look at, and they just might take a gander at what' s on the table while they' re there. Whether that' s the reason you display the mounts or not, that' s the end result. Not trying to be offensive, but that' s the way it is.

davidmil 09-06-2003 11:16 AM

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Now this is a thread I thought was headed NO WHERE. I was positive it was one of the stupidest questions I ever saw. But, some how ya' ll have managed to throw in some brain teasers and give it a little depth. Take it easy BOW. We have to play once in a while.[8D]

OlMossyHorns 09-06-2003 12:15 PM

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There are many ways to " respect" an animal, IMO. One way is taking ethical shots, and making sure that your kills are quick and humane. As far as mounting the deer or not, it is up to the hunter that harvests the game. It is his decision and nobody elses. I myself would mount a deer if I harvested a big buck. I may respect the deer in this way, while other may respect the deer by putting just the antlers on the wall. I believe the only way to truly respect the animal though, is to waste no parts, and to not kill more than is necessary for you. Respect the animal, and respect the fact that it give it' s life so that you can survive.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-06-2003 03:31 PM

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I can' t believe someone here truely thinks that a deer mount honors an animal any more than eating it and disposing of the carcass. Antlers are bone right? Just like a leg or back bone but no one is asking you to mount those just throw them away. Seems kind of disrespectful to me. I have some nice sets of antlers I have kept and some I have thrown out to go back into the earth and hopefully grow feed for the next buck. Don' t kid yourself those deer don' t care what you do with the horns after you kill them. I am not opposed to a deer mount, in fact think they are very neat, but I also do not think they are in any way required to respect or honor the animal.

And your deceased relatives could give a rat' s rectum if they are in a fancy coffin, dressed in thier Sunday best either but it' s something we do to preserve the " honor" of the life they lived.....

Therefore you can carry that into the hunting world saying to mount an animal is to " honor" the animal and the life they lived....neither the human, or animal in this case cares what happens to it after death, but somehow the human, or animal in this case lives on when stories are told of it' s mount, memories are reborn just by looking at it...the honor is in our mind....not what the animal thinks.

Our native Americans hold honor in the spirit of each animal....to disrespect, or dishonoring the animal is to disrespect or dishonor yourself. If you can' t find some truth in that...I feel :( for you. I guess you hunt for other reasons than myself.


TJF 09-06-2003 10:44 PM

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Rob

I' ve told the wife to get the boss and have him dig a big hole with the backhoe. Put me in my old ford truck, push it in and cover. It' s not so much as how I want to be remembered but it makes much more sense then having to pay for a coffin which I will never see and then pay someone to haul the old wreck away. ;):D

Tim

Oh and I told her to put a glass of water in the truck with me. A guy should be prepared for the worse should I take a wrong turn!!! [X(][>:]

AKDoug 09-07-2003 12:37 AM

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I leave the horns in the field. I just give a little thanks to God for providing me with additional food for my family. All usable meat is recovered and I leave the hide, guts and bones for animals like wolves, bears, coyotes, squirrels, rabbits and porcupines to nurish themselves. These are just my personal beliefs, I do not look down my nose or admonish anyone if they want to display their successes.

AKDoug 09-07-2003 12:42 AM

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Our native Americans hold honor in the spirit of each animal....to disrespect, or dishonoring the animal is to disrespect or dishonor yourself. If you can' t find some truth in that...I feel for you. I guess you hunt for other reasons than myself.
You don' t see very many horns adorning the homes of natives that I know. In fact, on the many, many caribou hunts I have been on with Native Alaskans I can' t ever remember bringing home a set of antlers. Maybe, I just misunderstodd Rob???????


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