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AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
kinda takin an poll I always like to shoot the newest and greatest and historiacl with mech carbosn are great! but recently I really got my 2314 AL supper lights to fly great they are heavy but true?
Curious to know how many of the rest of you shoot and what BH weight? Do you use your setup for ELK or just whitetail? Look forward to the results!! |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Easton Lightspeed 400 with 80gr Phantoms for whitetails. I shoot carbon because they are durable. I never have to worry about one being bent. While aluminum can be more exact specification wise out of the box over the course of hundreds of shots they will develop bends. Carbons will last forever with normal shooting as long as you don' t hit them with other arrows or shoot them into extremely hard objects. On the other hand if you have aluminums flying great don' t mess with your set-up. Too many guys get caught up in the hype of what works good for others without realizing what' s working good for themselves is what it' s all about. TJ |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
On the other hand if you have aluminums flying great don' t mess with your set-up. Too many guys get caught up in the hype of what works good for others without realizing what' s working good for themselves is what it' s all about. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot A/C/C' s, the most durable shaft on the market IMHO. The durability of carbon with the tolerances of aluminum. I used to shoot aluminum, and could throw just about any arrow into my rig and it would shoot no problem with broadheads. A couple years back switched to all carbon, and had tuning problems, but looking back upon it NOT ALL of the problems I experienced were arrow related, but even when they were shooting good I didn' t feel I was shooting as good as I thought I could. This year I got some A/C/Cs cheap off of ebay and I won' t shoot anything else now, I know they are expensive, but you can' t ask for more in terms of performance. Many people agrue against the A/C/C because of price & the fact you can bend them. My thinking on price is, you get what you pay for, if you want the best arrow with the complete package in terms of straightness, weight, & spine (most important IMHO) then choose the A/C/C, if you can live without one of the three get an all carbon.
In the end it is up to what YOU feel comfortable with shooting and what YOUR budget allows for. Good luck and Happy Hunting! |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I vote for carbon, ALU is great but I just don' t take the care that I should of my stuff. Durability, quality, ease of maint.
If someone were looking at a new bow and needed to resetup anyway. I would say go carbon. I shoot a 100 gr for elk and deer and turkey. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot carbon for durability over aluminums. I shoot 100 gr. fixed blades on elk and 100 gr. mechs. for whitetail, coyote and turkeys.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot Carbons with 100 Grain Fixed BH for Elk, Deer, Moose and Bear. I have found them more durable and they shoot wonderfully out of my 2 setups. I think they' re GREAT!!!
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Look under redundant in the dictionary and it says to see redundant...;):D[&:]
Thanks for supplying the link WV Hunter..... |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
WV HUNTER thx for the link!
Real frustrated here I wanto shoot my acc kinetic' s w/4" offset vanes 445 grain that I can group 2' at 30 yds now every time with target points. but my BH just dive about 6" low every time. shooting 100 grian Steel force Picked up the 2314 xx75 with 5" helical feathers 450 grain and they shoot like my my field points. PROBLEM IS I DON" T WANT TO SHOOT ALuminum and damn sure dont want to shoot feathers! but if they keep shooting exactly where I aim every time I will not be able to argue with the performance!! I thought about reflecching my acc kinetic to 4" helicals to help with the flight maybe even feathers. And i' m not sure how hard it would be to move my knock lower since I shoot a loopto retune my set-up for my BH!! Signed, PERPLEXED IN VA As a loast resort I could try some muzzy' s or thunderheads dont' really like they though LOL |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot Gold tip hunters for many reasons. One being I have only ever damaged one (except for being hit by other arrows during practice) I had a bad shot at a 3-d shoot and hit the rebarb in a mulies leg. I would like to have a good excuse for that one but I am not sure what happened. In my experiences with them you will lose them before you break them. They are very affordable I get a dozen for $55 at my local pro shop. Fletched nocked inserts and practice tips ready to go. You can' t beat that, less than 5 bucks each. They also have lock nocks which is great makes tuning your arrow a breeze. Expecially if you get a different rest. You can fine tune them in seconds. I shoot a wisker biscuit and I use a 2 degree offset on the fletching and I couldn' t be more happy with the gold tips!!!!
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot carbons because alluminums SUCK![>:]:D
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Aluminum XX75 2314' s because they hit where I aim and blow through what
I shoot at. Am not fond of carbon' s for hunting. :D |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Why do I shoot Aluminums? Because they fly great and require very little or no tuning when I screw on my broadheads. I shoot XX78' s 2314' s easton super slams. My bow is alot quieter also when I shoot the aluminums. I also think those people that bend aluminums are hitting things they shouldnt such as rocks, stumps, and trees. Solution-practice, practice. I been shooting XX78' s for many years and havent bent one yet. So if you are bending your arrows (aluminum) you need to practice shot placement.
1. complete pass throughs 2. very little tuning or no tuning with broadheads 3. bow is quieter 4. easier on limbs |
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Carbons for me (shot Aluminum for about 15 years then went to carbons...will NEVER go back)
Once you find the right spine, the carbons are tougher, and you can get carbons with VERY tight tolerances (sp?) ALL else being equal (diameter/weight/speed/spine/head/length...anything else you want to add...) a carbon will penetrate BETTER than aluminum as they don' t oscillate as much (or as long...basically have built in damping)...this is also a BIG aid to accuracy when shooting broadheads at high speeds. Not everyone can shoot 5 spot targets all the time (at hunting camp we only have 2 targets for 4 guys....you pick 1 spot to shoot) when shooting more than 2-3 arrows into a group, your GONNA hit some arrows together. I got sick of buying new aluminums all the time due to dents in the sides from other arrows...now I don' t have to. MOST of the nocks agains' t carbon are NOT agains' t carbon proper...but agains' t light weight (broadhead tuning, KE or pass throughs, quietness, easy on limbs etc). Can' t tune a noisy bow with carbons? Add some wieght. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Carbons, because if I drop my bow I don' t bend all my arrows. Plus they draw quieter and last longer. I' ve broken and dented alot of aluminums. Shoot what you wish, for the reasons you wish, but don' t trash another mans treasure.;) |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Aluminum. Reason one-I have always shot aluminum and ther is no point in changing.
I am staying with aluminum for three prime reasons-our local 3-d courses are littered with shattered and broken carbon arrows of all makes, models, and sizes but no broken aluminum. A partner bought a half dozen Easton Carbons [correctly sized and spined] before the newness wore out one splintered as it came off the bow and one split as it hit the target. I have broken and damaged many aluminum arrows in 40 years but over all these are miniscule in number. I am not slamming carbons . . . there are many out there who have not had similar experiences and are very well pleased . . . these are MY REASONS for shooting aluminum and not changing to carbons. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I started out with aluminums but now I shoot carbons. I love them for the durability, don' t have to check them all the time for bends and dents.
I am shooting Blackhawk Camo 426 grains for Deer and Turkey. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
XX78 2314' s for me. I was surprised at how much quieter my bow became, when I made the switch from carbons. I willingly gave up some fps for the " shootability" of the XX78' s.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
Just picked up 1/2 a dozen Beman 400 ics hunters, hope to shoot them tonite [8D] they weigh in at 380 gr with my fieldpoints.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I have been swayed by the carbon crowd for now. Gotta admit they are cheaper in the long run due to durability. Shooting Gametracker carbons 4 now, but aluminum isn' t far from my mind.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
aluminum xx78 superslams and xx75 advatage timber , mainly for cost reasons they fly good outta my bow ,and the funds aren' t there to start messing with carbon ,i will probably get some, i was thinking of checking out some evolutions.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
PROBLEM IS I DON" T WANT TO SHOOT ALuminum and damn sure dont want to shoot feathers! but if they keep shooting exactly where I aim every time I will not be able to argue with the performance!! Like I said on the other thread, I want to be able to shoot carbons but the stuff I have to go through... Straightness checks, spine checks, carefully orienting the stiff side on all the arrows identically, adding weight to get the things as heavy as I want them... It' s rapidly getting to the point where it' s more work than it' s worth. In this case, what I want is way different than what works. And what works has worked for me for years without any of the extraneous BS I' ve been fighting with carbon. |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot carbons mostly. I still have some XX75 camo hunters that I sometimes shoot with. Oh, and I shoot Carbon Express Terminators 4560. Besides the fact that alum. bend and carbons are either straight or broke, I sighted my three pins in with aluminums. 20, 30, and 40 yards. Switching to carbons gave me 25, 35, and 45 yards without changing anything except the arrows.:D
Works for me! |
RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I used to shoot the XX78 Easton aluminum Super Slams w/ my PSE, but now w/ my Hoyt, I shoot the 400 gr. carbon Beman ICS hunters w/ NAP Spitfire 100 gr. mechanical broadheads.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
For everyone who believes in the myth that carbons are either straight or broke, there is some interesting reading in the thread ' Tuning Trilogy' on the Technical forum.
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I doubt very much if any more than a few people here shoot good enough to concern themselves with the straightness tolerances of a good carbon arrow!!!
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RE: AL or CARBON? what do you shoot and why?
I shoot Carbon Express 300' s. Tipped with 100 gr. Steal Head Mech. Broad Heads.
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