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rlmx 01-21-2011 02:17 PM

Using a Release is "Cheating"?
 
I met a guy who made the statement that using a release is "cheating".

I have a response in mind, but what should I tell (or call) him?

As a matter of fact he says that "hunting" should be with spears.

LOL.

Valentine 01-21-2011 02:52 PM

I'll bet
 
that fella really doesn't like crossbows.

Terasec 01-21-2011 03:44 PM

Can always argue that while spearing is in line with fair chase,
Yet not a very effective or ethical method of hunting,
If We all took up spearing would be a lot of injured deer out there.

Blackelk 01-21-2011 03:52 PM

It is cheating that's why I use one.

scottycoyote 01-21-2011 03:54 PM

id say ok show it to me in the rulebook

tndeerhunter80 01-21-2011 04:55 PM

Id ask him if he has ever even come to full draw on a big buck. If not, the well....go figure right?

Krypt Keeper 01-21-2011 05:55 PM

Ask what in his mind is actually cheating and not cheating

We know he thinks a release is cheating

but...????

does he make his own bow?

use sights or the force?

build his own strings or buys them?

if he does build strings does he buy the material or actually go out and nature and use animal tendons and whatever weird stuff people used 100's of yrs ago?

widdle his own arrows? Use modern tools or all done by shards of sharp rock chips?

This could go on forever if you wanna question it far enough.. I use to do this to the anti hunting vegetarian folks. They would get pissy when you bring up the whole killing of poor innocent carrots being ripped from the ground and just because the carrot can't scream or show the trauma your causing it you are still killing a living thing. :cool2:

bronko22000 01-21-2011 07:04 PM

or you could just tell him that you don't even consider a statement like that deserves a response. and add 'its better to keep your mouth shut and have people think your an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt.'

Rhody Hunter 01-22-2011 11:54 AM

tell him spearing is cheating and that he should throw rocks or use a knife.
Its the old i'm a better hunter than you because i do it this way and you don't
there is no cheating. As long as it is legal do it what ever way you want

halfbakedi420 01-22-2011 12:14 PM

i know a guy with 1 inch thick callus's that draws a traditional bow...he is perty good, considerin their arnt any sights at all. he thinks i cheat using a compound bow.
i guess it depends on how traditional you are, as to whats cheating.
i know guys that absolutely will not hunt with a gun, but carry a side arm and have nice guns. im sure ya know what they think cheating is when it comes ta hunting.
so with that in mind, try and get across to him that there are people who want to do away with all hunting...and that no matter what one uses, hunters need to stick together. no matter how they hunt, and respect their means and methods.

GMMAT 01-22-2011 12:27 PM

You didn't happen to say anything to him that elicited that response,...........................did ya?

LKNCHOPPERS 01-22-2011 12:33 PM

Personally I don't care what other people think. I compete with myself and set my standards higher than most.

nchawkeye 01-22-2011 03:18 PM

I do think it's funny that some bow hunters use all the latest gadgets and then turn their noses up at cross bows...

And no, I don't use a release... :)

SteveBNy 01-22-2011 03:49 PM

Not cheating - but far easier then shooting fingers.

MeanV2 01-23-2011 08:35 AM

There are always guys that think the more primitive equipment they use that somehow that makes them Elite :rolleyes:

I have hunted with Recurves, Compounds shooting both fingers (for 25 years) and release. It's a personal choice and I don't care about anyone's choice unless they carry an attitude around because of it ;)

Just tell him it's a personal choice and let it Go. Sounds like a Moron :)

Dan

MeanV2 01-23-2011 08:37 AM

And that's the way it Should be! :) It's why I won't participate in contests anymore;)

Dan




Originally Posted by LKNCHOPPERS (Post 3762022)
Personally I don't care what other people think. I compete with myself and set my standards higher than most.


Schultzy 01-24-2011 01:36 AM

Pulling a trigger on a bow sounds weird to me. ;) Is It cheating, I don't think so.

MeanV2 01-24-2011 07:52 AM

The Transition I made from shooting fingers to properly working a release was the hardest thing I have ever done in Archery, and I am sure shooting fingers for 25 years before making that switch had a lot to do with it.

Shooting traditional with fingers was Great! Even shooting fingers with compounds for 12 to 14 years was fine, but as compounds got shorter and letoffs got higher it became harder and harder to get a consistent clean release.

I am sure I could shoot my current bow (with a little practice and a good tab) with fingers good enough to harvest game but I really like being as effecient with my Bow as possible, and Murphy's Law seems to always be close by ;)

Dan

treboryerf 01-28-2011 04:37 PM

I wouldn't even give him a response,can't argue with stupid people who are closed minded and won't even consider that just because they have a different way at looking at things their way is the only way.

tight360 01-28-2011 08:28 PM

Cheating?
 

Originally Posted by rlmx (Post 3761582)
I met a guy who made the statement that using a release is "cheating".

I have a response in mind, but what should I tell (or call) him?

As a matter of fact he says that "hunting" should be with spears.

LOL.

is gun hunting cheating? Gun hunting w/ a scope cheating? Trip wire booby traps cheating? Use of camo, treestands, scent, bait, showers, bino's, does he make his own bows w/ sinew, carve his own arrows, use a manufactured broadhead? It goes on and on. By the way, in Michigan, spear chuk'n IS cheating, it's ILLEGAL.:rolleye0011:

Redangler 01-30-2011 10:52 AM

Oops I guess i have been cheating the whole time!

gyro288 01-30-2011 11:19 AM

whos cares what some yahoo thinks

jrfrmn 01-30-2011 07:32 PM

Using a Release is "Cheating"?
 

Originally Posted by rlmx (Post 3761582)
I met a guy who made the statement that using a release is "cheating".

I have a response in mind, but what should I tell (or call) him?

As a matter of fact he says that "hunting" should be with spears.

LOL.


What color is the horse he rides to work every day?

jacob321 02-04-2011 09:13 AM

I wonder whats the biggest thing hes hunted. call him up and tell him hes better off go fishing.

sachiko 02-04-2011 01:17 PM

My husband hunts naked and kills with his bare hands. He says anything else is cheating and unnatural. :rolleyes:

GTOHunter 02-06-2011 03:54 PM

If using a release makes You a better shooter and more accurate then it is better and more ethical to use when Hunting a Deer...then go for it!I use a release because it is easier on my fingers,I'm much more accurate and consistant when shooting and I can pull the string back easier with my wrist and hand.

PY Antlers 02-28-2011 09:20 AM

Regardless of what methods any of us use we don't need to be bashing each other, because we get bashed enough from the Anti's. If there are guys out there shooting todays compounds with fingers, more power to them. But I went to a release because there so short now days there was way to much finger pinch! Call a compound what you want, but it's still a stick and string with an average ethical effective range of 30 yards.........nuff said

2 Samuel 22:35 02-28-2011 02:33 PM

I would be interested on what this guy thinks of rifles. LOL


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