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Gladius87 11-30-2010 12:46 PM

Need a tactic for this area
 
So there is some amazing ground that I hunt that holds a great number of deer. It is not uncommon to see over 10 deer per hunt on this particular ground. It is essentially a strip of cover that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. The "wooded" area is made up of rows upon rows of small trees, with Russian Olives spotting the areas between the trees.

There are absolutely zero trees that are big enough to put a stand in, and a ground blind would stick out like a sore thumb. I usually sit in a seat up against one of the Russian Olive trees, but it is near impossible to draw a bow without being seen.

Any ideas on how I can conceal myself to get a shot here?

FYI, here is what a Russian Olive looks like in the fall. Offers some cover, but not a whole lot.

*Edit* The pic is not from the hunting area. It is just one I got from Google images to give you all an idea what I'm working with.


MountainHunter 11-30-2010 02:18 PM

Suggest open pattern camo and maybe one of those "camo umbrellas"?

Outdrdave 11-30-2010 02:53 PM

I would build a very small tripod type stand or get a tripod stand and cut the legs. I would then add some larger branches into the Russian Olive tree. This would get you off the ground just a couple feet into the branches to help break things up. Play the wind right and keep the wind in mind when picking your tree. If you can find a tree that meets both wind, shot oppertunity and has some sort of a back drop your in shape.

For example... that tree pictured has horable back drop although pretty, but if you were to build a tripod type stand that could sadle the trunk, put yourself just infront of that larger trunk that goes off to the left, just above where the smaller branch angles towards the camera; you could get away with much more than if you were on the ground. dang... that was a long sentence/thought :)

another thing that I would sugest that might go against the grain of normal thinking is keep the deer off of you. Take a couple stakes and run some rope from the tree to the stakes about 7-10 yards out. You dont want them to be right on top of you while your waiting for the right deer or the right shot. It doesnt have to be like a fence, just something about 2 feet up to discourge most deer from cutting right next to you. Of course, if the cattle are allowed to be in this overgrown spot, that might not go over very well. In that case make sure what ever your build is wisper quiet.


Good luck.
Dave

Hunter_59 11-30-2010 02:56 PM

I'm assuming this is private ground. Are you the land owner? This may limit what you are able to do. If you are the owner or can get permission from the owner, then maybe a tripod stand would work in this situation. You could set the stand up pre-season and brush it in, leaving it the entire season. Maybe in the right place you could leave it year-round which would allow the deer to become accustomed to it being there all year. Hunt it with the right wind direction, being careful to control scent coming and going, and you could possibly score on some great bucks.

Gladius87 11-30-2010 02:59 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. I unfortunately am not able to put a tripod on this piece of land. If so I would have already done it. lol. I was just thinking that there might be something I could do that I was just missing, but it seems it is just a very difficult spot to hunt.

AR Bowhunter 11-30-2010 03:26 PM

Use (miracle grow) an grow your on blind slowly but surely. Sort of like those shrubs in the ground behind the olive tree about what looks to be 30 yards or so.

travis_ranger2000 11-30-2010 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Gladius87 (Post 3731714)
So there is some amazing ground that I hunt that holds a great number of deer. It is not uncommon to see over 10 deer per hunt on this particular ground. It is essentially a strip of cover that sits in the middle of a cow pasture. The "wooded" area is made up of rows upon rows of small trees, with Russian Olives spotting the areas between the trees.

There are absolutely zero trees that are big enough to put a stand in, and a ground blind would stick out like a sore thumb. I usually sit in a seat up against one of the Russian Olive trees, but it is near impossible to draw a bow without being seen.

Any ideas on how I can conceal myself to get a shot here?

FYI, here is what a Russian Olive looks like in the fall. Offers some cover, but not a whole lot.


LOL,,, I see a telephone pole you could climb!

rmrvette 11-30-2010 05:02 PM

Climbing stand in that Telephone pole? Secure the stand on a hanger once in position. Drape camo netting around you in place?

Windwalker7 11-30-2010 05:11 PM

It would take a lot of work, but how about a pit blind.

Dig a large hole in the ground, so most of your body is hidden. Around the pit, place some small limbs or brush to conseal what is above ground.

Pit needs to be big enough to draw your bow. Also, it may get a little muddy if it rains.

Gladius87 11-30-2010 05:18 PM

Lol. FYI that pic is just one I found on Google. That is not the hunting area. I really can't alter the area I am in at all. It would have to a be a setup I could pack in and take out.

Outdrdave 11-30-2010 06:20 PM

crazy... but you could modify an aluminum A-Frame ladder to get you off the ground a bit. It would only take about 5-6' of elevation to get you in some better cover.

make it so you can secure 2 pieces of wood or something for the legs to sit on to give it stability. Secure a swivel plastic boat seat on the top. Bring a ratchet with you to secure to tree if needed. Sit on top the ladder and you can swivel as needed for shots. Paint it up well, zip tie some fake leaves to it and see how it works for you at home.

* It would be less work than brushing a blind.
* You could customize it as you go.
* Its something you can carry in and out.
* Not to bad in weight.
* Gets you off the ground.
* Can be stable and ready to hunt in less time than it takes most to set and climb with a climber.
* Using the right tree with heavy branches and some sort of snow camo you could blend in pretty well despite that lack of cover.

I don’t know all the hurdles you have to overcome, just something I would consider in your situation.

Good Luck,
Dave

Gladius87 11-30-2010 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Outdrdave (Post 3732013)
crazy... but you could modify an aluminum A-Frame ladder to get you off the ground a bit. It would only take about 5-6' of elevation to get you in some better cover.

make it so you can secure 2 pieces of wood or something for the legs to sit on to give it stability. Secure a swivel plastic boat seat on the top. Bring a ratchet with you to secure to tree if needed. Sit on top the ladder and you can swivel as needed for shots. Paint it up well, zip tie some fake leaves to it and see how it works for you at home.

* It would be less work than brushing a blind.
* You could customize it as you go.
* Its something you can carry in and out.
* Not to bad in weight.
* Gets you off the ground.
* Can be stable and ready to hunt in less time than it takes most to set and climb with a climber.
* Using the right tree with heavy branches and some sort of snow camo you could blend in pretty well despite that lack of cover.

I don’t know all the hurdles you have to overcome, just something I would consider in your situation.

Good Luck,
Dave

That is an interesting idea. I may have to actually try this one out. If I could get a rig like that right up into the middle of one of the Russian Olives I may have enough cover to actually draw my bow on a deer.

MountainHunter 11-30-2010 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Outdrdave (Post 3732013)
crazy... but you could modify an aluminum A-Frame ladder to get you off the ground a bit. It would only take about 5-6' of elevation to get you in some better cover.

make it so you can secure 2 pieces of wood or something for the legs to sit on to give it stability. Secure a swivel plastic boat seat on the top. Bring a ratchet with you to secure to tree if needed. Sit on top the ladder and you can swivel as needed for shots. Paint it up well, zip tie some fake leaves to it and see how it works for you at home.

* It would be less work than brushing a blind.
* You could customize it as you go.
* Its something you can carry in and out.
* Not to bad in weight.
* Gets you off the ground.
* Can be stable and ready to hunt in less time than it takes most to set and climb with a climber.
* Using the right tree with heavy branches and some sort of snow camo you could blend in pretty well despite that lack of cover.

I don’t know all the hurdles you have to overcome, just something I would consider in your situation.

Good Luck,
Dave

I LOVE it! Redneck ingenuity at its best! I think that's an awesome, creative idea!

LKNCHOPPERS 12-01-2010 07:46 AM

I bet one of those ghost blinds would work pretty good in that situation.

DDMPrecision 12-01-2010 12:57 PM

Ghillie suit.
Takes a little getting used to, especially shooting a bow, but they're very effective.
And, if you stay in the shrubs, and can draw without taking a hard breath, you should be able to pull it off.

rg87 12-03-2010 04:57 PM

im with DDMPrecision on this one. i love my ghillie suit. i trimmed up the right sleeve so it doesnt get caught when i draw but you can be on the ground and disappear. just practice shooting with the suit before you head out.


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