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Red Hawk 07-13-2003 02:19 AM

Figuring out sights
 
Okay I know there alot of people who come in here but jst in case someone comes in who doesn' t know this. I recently bought a bow and i have been praticing as much as the weather allows (its been very hot here) but i been praticing at 15 yards roughly. I just have three sight pins and i noticed that the middle one is better for 20 yards shot but what would be third and bottom one be best for? 25+ or what? I want to add two more pins but i least wanted to get a few options on what average distance shots i would use those for. It will be awhile because i want to make sure i can hit with good if not great accuracy on the 3 pins.

Rickmur 07-13-2003 04:32 AM

RE: Figuring out sights
 
In my opinion when you use 3 pins they are generly set for 10-20 and 30 tards. If your bow is fast enough learn to compensate with holdover or under and use just one pin. At the moment of truth when you draw down on an animal you will have only one pin to shoot. Having multipul pins increases the chance of useing the wrong pin in the excitement and a sure miss.

huntforlife 07-13-2003 07:24 AM

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When hunting I switched back to a single pin with a little practice you can be just as accurate as you would be with 3 pins I know it sounds simple to chose the right pin when a deer comes in but I and I am sure others have chosen the wrong pin at one time or another and went right under or over the deer I think that if you are going to hunt with multiple pins I would not have 5 pins set up just my opinion

nub 07-13-2003 09:12 AM

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Having multipul pins increases the chance of useing the wrong pin in the excitement and a sure miss.
I disagree. Telling a guy he' s in for a sure miss for useing 3 pins, is going a little over board. If I were to use 3(I use 4 or 5), I' d set for 20, 30, and 40. That does not mean you have to shoot at game at those distances. Being new to the sport, you shouldn' t need any more than that. It really depends on your bow, what you should set your pins for. Multilpe pin sights are good for range estimation and gapping. Learn to use multiple pins and the confidence they can give you.

Don' t blame confusion at the moment of truth on the equipment. ;)

mez 07-13-2003 09:45 AM

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I' m with nub on this one. I use 4 pins set 20, 30, 40, 50, choosing the right pin has never been a problem. Why is there any more chance of using the wrong pin with multiples than forgetting to hold over or under with one. Seems like the same chance for error to me. I like the precision that multiple pins give me.

nub 07-13-2003 10:09 AM

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Good point mez. If anything, I' d think multiple pins would make you take a second to think before shooting. Instead of just throwing up your bow, centering your pin, then second guessing and raiseing or lowering and letting one fly.

Rickmur 07-13-2003 11:22 AM

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If anything, I' d think multiple pins would make you take a second to think before shooting.
Do you not think the same holds true if you have only 1 pin? With todays fast bows why do you need more than 1 anyway. 1 pin set for 20 yards is good for a center of chest hold clear out to 30 yards. At least on my bow. With a bow shooting in excess of 250 fps multipul pins are so close together that you really have to be aware of what pin to use and is my green pin the 20 yard or is my yellow pin or maybe it' s the red one but then again it could be the orange or white one. I very rarely shoot out beyound 30 yards and for me one pin is less to think about. When your thinking about torque, canting the bow, limbs in the way following the deer through a peep and not looseing your balence while shooting from an akward position, it' s just one thing less to have to worry about.


Telling a guy he' s in for a sure miss for useing 3 pins, is going a little over board.
Don' t take the quote out of contest. He' s not adpt to miss because he uses 3 or more pins but rather so by useing the wrong pin.
Like I said it is of my opinion, ;) just like you have yours. :)

nub 07-13-2003 11:39 AM

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I' ll repeat myself in case you missed it.

Don' t blame confusion at the moment of truth on the equipment.

He' s not adpt to miss because he uses 3 or more pins but rather so by useing the wrong pin.
About as apt as he is useing 1. Both ways are only as good as ones abitility to estimate yardages. I' d rather have multiple pins in the kill zone,(leaning more to the one I estimated the yardage at), than one over the top of his back.

click 07-13-2003 11:39 AM

RE: Figuring out sights
 
i go with the 3 pin set up at 20-30-40

love it and it works great for me:)

VBM 07-13-2003 12:47 PM

RE: Figuring out sights
 
Personally I use 5 pins. 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 yards. While it is very unlikely that I would ever shoot at a game animal over 40 yards I find that practiceing at 50 and 60 yards makes shooting at the closer ranges much easier. Once you get to the point of shooting nice groups at long range it will seem as if the short shots are gimme' s. I use .019 diameter pins so they really don' t appear to be to close together. Just my .02 cents worth.

BGfisher 07-14-2003 07:05 AM

RE: Figuring out sights
 
I agree with most but mostly with VBM. With the speed of most bows today there is virtually no reason for a 10 yard pin. So I set my first one at 20 yards. Actually I just changed to a lighter arrow and had to do things a bit different. I had my pins set for 22, 29, 36 yards but they were so close that I could not gap at all between them. I was forced to just put 3 pins on and shoot. So now I' m set for 25, 35 and 45. This is a bit better, but now I have too many pins. The 25 I can use out to 30 yards with only about 2.5" drop and only an inch high at 20 yards. And while we' re on the subject a lot depends onhow far the pins are from the riser. The farther from the riser the longer the sight radius, thus spreading the pins more. I like having pins set for longer ranges like 50 and 60 yards for practice (makes the short shots gimme' s). Ah, then hunting season nears and I change the sight (I always have two) and use a sigle pin set for 25 yards. That allows me to shoot a middle of the chest hold (on deer) out to 30 yards. I' ve found this just as accurate as a pendelum sight without all the muss and fuss of having moving parts.

VAhuntr 07-14-2003 08:10 AM

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My preference is for one pin set at 20 yards. Out of my tree stands, this set up is good from underneath my stand and out to 32 yards with my particular set up. What I like about it is when I set my tree stands up, I mark the yardage around the stand and if a deer comes inside my " circle" and offers a clean shot, I do not have to guess my yardage and pick a corresponding pin. I used to use multiple pins but a friend talked me in to trying one pin 2 years ago. I have found it to be much simpler and quicker.

Roseaukaine 07-14-2003 08:29 AM

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Three pins; one at 20, 40, and 50. In my stand (18 feet high) I use my 20 yard pin from 0 - 30 yds - dead on every time. In my area I will not have the opportunity for a farther shot, nor would I take one past 30 anyway. I keep the red pin (the brightest one) as my top pin (20 yards). The 2 other pins are just for fun[8D].

huntnma 07-14-2003 09:28 AM

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i had a 10, 20 ,30 yard set up, but i changed it to 20, 30 , 40 my max...not that i' ll ever use the 40 where i hunt , but it' s still nice to have, just in case......:D

wimp 07-14-2003 09:31 AM

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My feeling is to keep things simple as possible, the fewer pins while maintaining accuracy, the better. Personnally I use a pendulum and it works for me.

Tazman 07-14-2003 10:25 AM

RE: Figuring out sights
 
I shot 4 pins for years, my first shot at a deer with a bow in my life I blew, I either picked the wrong pin or missed my anchor point. I continued to shoot 4 pins until last year when I switched to one, with practice I was shooting just as good as I had with 4 pins. I have 3 pins on my new bow, but very soon I will be going back to one pin.

To each there own, there are advantages and disadvantages both with a single pin and multiple pins, with me I prefer a single pin, if you practice enough the holding high or low depending upon distance become instinct. I set my single pin at 20 yards.


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