What exactly do you mean? I have video of it and have used it as well as others. What won't work, my phone?

dude grow up how long have you been doing this sport when you have done it for as long as me i might listen to you and seriously you called your wife as barbie might mean something different here because you just made a big insult to your wife

I have been hunting for 28 years.
My wife read your post and laughed and gave me the joke that I posted. I don't want to grow up anymore because I won't be able to bow hunt since I am over 40.
I give her the credit for the joke.I was going to make a dingo and outback brokeback reference but she stopped me. You might not get it. Connecting the dots can be difficult sometimes.
It is a cheap camera,camcorder,smartphone mount. Why fight technology?
Apps that I use while in the field:
The Weather Channel
Advanced task killer(to save battery)
Blogger droid (so I can post what I see real time)
Android cloud( too complicated to explain to you)
Dog whistler( when I have my Vizsla out bird hunting)
ES file explorer (another one that isn't worth explaining)
Gmail
imovicha
Latitiude( tells me where my hunting buddies are - usually my wife for when we leave the woods in the dark)
Paypal - to work out shipments\payments for those hunters who use a smart phone
Google maps
Places
Smart Measure
Sundroid (give me legal hunting hours)
Google talk (so I can quietly communicate with my wife)
Ustream - so I can broadcast live
Sipdroid - so I don't use any cell phone minutes -unlimited text,IM and minutes at no cost
A pile of other personal apps that I can take care of while on stand( bills etc)
THe list goes on and on...
I suggest you watch one of my broadcasts so you can see the sound and video quality capability.
You crack me up.
Keep 'em coming...you are a good source of entertainment! (I'll give ya that)

you know what i wrote a big ripping reply
but you arnt worth it good luck im going hunting

I agree completely. And by the way, get off of the forum, you came here to do nothing but sell a product. I think that's bullsh!t. People come here to chat, ask for help, learn new things, help other people out. So why don't you and your phone just take a hike and get maried somewhere.

thanks hardwood im glad you saw what i saw

Are u like 13 or something??? Lol

ohhhh, I forgot an r! Slap my wrists and call me 13! Oh, and u? Are "u" an idiot?

You guys can rag all you want...
I spent the day with my wife hunting doves with shotgun to get her in form for her shotty hunt that is sponsored by our states game commission.
DrockW thanks for the support...maybe these guys will understand what we have been talking about before they can't bow hunt anymore.
Endorsements are on the way and it isn't important to me anymore to educate anyone who doesn't get it and a rag fest isn't really conducive to hunting anyway.You don't need to buy anything or choose a channel on the tele that I prefer so go have fun and do what you can with what you have.
We have less than 2 weeks for archery here in Pennsylvania and can't wait to vid our hunts,bow and shotgun live. I am really looking forward to my wife bagging her first deer and she is even more excited than I.
We are over 40 and are looking forward to it and are researching illuminated nocks for the hunt since we are hunting under a dark canopy where it is much like night in the middle of the day and so will be hard to film with anything.
DrockW if you want hooked up send me an email and I am sure I can do something for you.
We are getting ready to begin beta testing and have pending endorsements on the beta results for the mount thing which will help move those 13 yr olds into the 21st century.Even if they think they can wrastle an alli you can check it out also.We had a trillion people apply so I can't give you that opportunity but I can probably give you something to provide feedback on, even if you are over 13 HAHAH!

I can say, excellent idea and I hope that it goes well for you. I have an iphone and can see exactly what you are trying to do. Would definitely lighten the load.


On the other hand, just because someone doesn't google chat doesn't mean they are behind the times. Its just cheaper for me to have a family texting plan then it is to have a data plan for my family. 20 a month for unlimited texting is a hell of a lot cheaper then paying for a data plan for each. besides my Iphone is second hand so I didn't have to get a data plan for that either. I can still use all the apps that apply when I need them. Best of luck with your app, and if it comes to apple, I may have to look into it, but no reason to insult for a lack of technology.

I apologize it wasn't meant to be that way.
I don't use any minutes and have unlimited minutes,text,IM etc on the lowest min plan verizon offers.
I use voip for everything and have a permanant google number that i will have forever.
I found it much cheaper for my whole family to pay for each phone a data plan and min minutes. Everyone can watch unlimited everything and talk forever for 60$ a month.

I am not sure about Iphone( and the mount works for iphones ,blackberry,kodak playsport and a whole host of other mobile devices- not only android.
I can also film all day on a usb extended battery that is tiny and plugs right into my phone mounted to my bow.
Like this( so you don't have to interrupt your live broadcast) :
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amazon-Kindle-IP...#ht_2023wt_704
Or you can buy battary packs 2 for 10$ and swap them out every few hours.

I am just trying to get folks to see but I think it may be too early yet. It really does lighten the load.
It really isn't that strange sinc all of my mounts have went to people who are up to date with technology except one who is an older gent that doesn't want to carry all of his gear and wants to see his family where he travels to hunt with his phone.

After reading the majority of your posts, especially the one containing the above immature, uneducated and downright insulting comments, I must conclude that you are what my father referred to as an "educated idiot". Sure, you've got some "book smarts", but you lack the common sense required to make good use of that knowledge.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor, but if you want to succeed you'd better learn to keep this kind of crap from spilling out of your mouth or onto your keyboard. At this point even if your product succeeded and I wanted one I wouldn't buy it because I know just enough about the guy that invented it to make me dislike him.

Thank you. Also damage, you say you're over 40...and texting is "so highschool". When you were in highschool did they even have computers?

We had computers.I worked on autocad in my sophmore year.
You get my point though, today's technology is more advanced and under utilized but it is there.Why not embrace it vs. fight it.

Maybe it is too early for the "tard" joke. I watch Tosh.o and I guess my skin is a little thicker than yours.
Today some things are more acceptable than they were just a short while ago.
Elvis was banned for swinging his hips.Madonna well, that was awhile ago. Today Lady gag does things people don't even blink when they see it.
I apologize if I offended you , I guess I see the world differently and have a different sense of humor that some do and will keep your comment in mind.

Yes, I get your point. I'm just saying out of everybody that I know, the people that would have more success with your product are the highschool students/college students. Why? Because that's their era, I do not know many 40 year old people that would easily access a smart phone as you say you do. Atleast in my neck of the woods. :party0005:

Hello there everyone!

This seems more like a bit of coincidence, since this was an idea of mine, that I have posted a request for on the XDA forums a while back...with similar intentions in mind...small world I'd say...:-)

Just seems like a bit of a coincidence, and of course my request was for a Win-mo app.

Nevertheless, I am glad it is materializing - even if it is for the droid platform. Not sure where the HD2-droid marriage is @ this point, as I have worked out my issues with Win-mo, but I will have a look.

And yeah, I am also over 40...

IMO, it is not completely fair, that You guys are unloading on this fella here, he is bringing something of a convenience to some of us, and of course, if You back him up in a corner, he is liable to bite. OTOH, he could also have showed some restraint, after all, he IS selling something here, which I, for instance, would be happy to pay for, if I could get it.

As I said: Hello everyone, I am new to the world of hunting with a bow, nice to meet Ya fellaz, I find the site useful and informative...how about that for a first post?

Actually, I have just had an ever better idea, as I have watched Your video and thought this through.

Why not use the camera and the application as Your actual bowsight??? Replace the mechanical sight completely!

Calibrate it for distances, make it multy-dot, or auto-adjust, or make it all manually/digitally adjustable and with a decent quality zoom-lens, dimming, you could have a great bow-sight, that doubles as a bow-camera?

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-HD2-HD...item43a186a2cb


Imagine all of us geezers with diminishing eyesight flocking to the digital age?

:-)

HAHA! Great!
An awfully strange coincidence ...
If you went to my site(www.forhuntersbyhunters.blogspot.com) and looked around you would see that this is the direction that the project is going.Why android? Because they have the only open source app development currently.As I am sure you are aware, this is a multi billion dollar business.
My hat is off to you for your understanding of the possibility of the entire concept.If I don't do it somebody will that is for sure and I believe that this will be the natural progression of the tools for bow hunters that will be available at some point. I currently have a beta test in progress with many different types of bows( and device platforms-some are not smart phones) and a display this weekend in New Hampshire with a camera manufacturer.
Eventually it will come to market and be "old school" but today people don't realize what is available to them (in regard to technology) and choose to stick with they know.
Let me know if you would like to work on this with me since I am more than willing to make it a reality( I have a few other ideas that I am sure you have probably considered).
...and yes I am frustrated by the nay sayers who don't quite have a full grasp on what they carry in their pocket everyday as an example:
I can't understand why anyone would want to use sms when they have free and available better technology but will pay for something that is very limited. My wife to this day has a hard time excepting that she can continue to communicate with her friends sms but not use it and pay for it.
Anyway, let me know if you want to work with me on this. I am broadcasting live hunts now and I don't think anyone in the world is doing it.Funny thing is that it takes little knowledge a download on your smart phone and an open mind.Nothing more.Anyone can do it in 5 mins.

Oh, and I have mentioned before about broadcasting live hunts.Check this out(I am sure there will be all kinds of comments that don't agree but I have done it and have it ready to go for very little cost)
Live 4+ hr broadcasting with video and sound that is better than you tube quality:

I never thought the day would come that I would plug my bow into a wall(this should get some interesting feedback)


It is so simple that it is ridiculous...
I have another unit on its way that will give me over 6 hours of live broadcasting for less than 70$.No monthly fees, nothing.You even use a server that stores all of this data and don't have to pay for that or eat up your own hard drive and it is done automatically with a click of a soft button.

If anyone wanted a particular color stabilizer we can do it.The issue now is that archery season is here( and I hunt everyday) and the orders that I am getting in are requests for all types of things (in addition to what I have for sale right now). I have no choice but to stick with what I have developed and can't make custom configurations for everyone.
I can guarantee you one thing, I will have a digital sight on my bow next year with zoom etc and will throw the mechanical site in the trash. Who needs it? With the phones of today the screen is almost as large as the viewing area- pretty much heads up display. Why boy a 100$ bowsite when you have a phone in your pocket that will do more than the site can?
I was discussing this topic on archery talk with a fellow archer and the guy (I believe) to this day still didn't believe me that the digital display of a phone could replace a sight.He had a difficult time grasping the fact that it was the same as a mechanical sight but became a virtual sight.
There is a stampede of people buying video equipment to film their hunts. They haven't realized that when they upload to u tube the picture quality is less than desirable. They will argue all day that they bought the best equipment available- and they have.The sad thing is that a cell phone has much more capability,weighs less,isn't going away,can communicate with a pc,can broadcast live,can send video to anyone,and can be mounted to your bow(so you don't need to bring your buddy),can show your your google maps(I load all of my way points,tree stand locations,trail cams,what I encounter while I am in the field etc) and so on.I can even pay bills(who wouldn't want to be able to do this so that they can spend more time hunting? Think about it- a virtual desk in your tree.Yeah we all want to experience hunting in those dull hours when nothing is happening all the while you are at home at your desk completing these dull mundane domestic tasks I am completing them from my tree stand which gives me more time to HUNT!),set up my direct tv shows and record pawn stars from the tree,communicate through email for work,check the sunrise\sunset,read cnn,post to Hunting.net,IM my wife and see her location in the field when we are leaving the hunt for the day in real time and the list goes on and on.Like they say: there is an app for that!

I need a much improved video for the mounts that are available on fhbh - I just threw together some footage I had at the time. It was in the darkest of cover(video enhancement software can correct this),the music doesn't match and was selected for the length of the clips,we have a pile of illuminated nocks now to use for filming etc...I just don't have the time to put it all together to build and sell these things.
Funny thing is, people from all over are buying them as much as people who don't get it are poking fun at the idea. The reality is that in a few short years we will be able to look back at these posts and laugh because it will become the standard.

I remember when people scoffed at laser range finders.The Vandetta is available this year. I also remember when people said that they wouldn't drink milk out of anything but a glass jug...'nuff said and I am a packaging guy!
Being a manufacturing engineer for my career (now laid off) I have been enjoying the comments and rhetoric of late in regard to technology and what I have brought to the table- outdoors people really don't embrace change unless they see a Drury , a Bill Dance or another pro hunter endorse a product(take scent lok for example- a total lie and joke that has been bought by us folks)..times are changing,let's use the tools in our arsenal to hunt and video our experiences. I wish that I had my first hunts(and all of them for that matter) recorded. I can take the same mount off of my bow and put it on my shotty and film an exciting dove hunt( and intend to again next week).
Most of what I have in regard to hunting experience is in memory since I am in my 40's but from now on all of my stepsons hunts will be easily accessible and from his point of view to watch over and over again and to share at any time he wants,from his cell phone.

Has anyone read the article on page 39 in the October Outdoor Life? If you want to get your kids involved, let's get 'er done!
Seriously there isn't any better way to get kids involved. Buy an inexpensive Kodak PlaySport or use your cell phone that you already have and mount it to your kids rig-whatever they are hunting and your rig also.You might find that you enjoy it too!

Honestly damage, i give you props for what you've done. Looks nuts. But don't you think it's a little bulky?

depends
 

Look back at the pics I posted- they weren't really at a good angle.
It really depends.It is like having another stab weight-wise.competitive shooters have that much weight and more. I dont have to carry a gps or a bunch of other junk that I have eliminated and my bow is lighter than Bows of a few years ago and some people still carry older bows.My set up is balanced and sits in a bow holder while hunting.I don't telly notice the added half pound and I only weigh 170 .so to answer Your question....no but thanks.it looks odd but really isn't that heavy at all.it is mostly plastic and circuit boards if You think about it.I have a scale on the way and will be posting to my site how Much it weighs but if you compare the weight of the metal sight on my bow it really isn't anything.look the parts up they don't weigh much at all.

-ANd I am writing this in bed on my phone.My wife is has a Woman of the outdoors hunt tomorrow in Pa for pheasant and so I gotta crash early to get up and take her there for the hunt.
Plastic,aluminum and circuit boards.I could take off my stab and do the same thing and the weight would really not be much different with and without. It really looks heavy and bulky but it isn't at all.Imagine a quiver full of arrows-they weigh much more.

Not much to say, since You see the big picture, but: "if You build it, they will come"...flock...to be exact.

Do You guys realize it, that You could have a magnified view of your target, auto adjusted for range, angle(ACR) - and without a peep-hole on Your string, mabbe even a night-view?

I, for instance understand the naysayers, who care not about the social networking and the bling, believe me, I wouldn't even film my hunts for certain reasons, but the functionality of such a sight brought to it's logical conclusions is what I seek. For filming my own practice sessions is where this(or a similar, but more precise) rig and the software would be useful to me, and of course shedding poundage. No rangefinder, bow-sight, extra fps and reliability from loosing the peep, extended visibility, accuracy, and of course having the functionality already built into a smartphone(GPS, compass, phone, wifi, net(radio, tv, weather, comms) music, movies, books, - available through blue-tooth earphones, wirelessly and silently)...etc, ad nausium...

It is not written anywhere, that You have to use all the available functions at all times - is it?

I have 32 gigs of memory on my phone, music, movies, silent and loud books, you name it...have looked into dual booting yesterday, and it is possible, with some issues. It will come in time.

I monna look into camo-dipping my hunin'-phone...:-)

I don't think I could be big help to You man, aside from flinging ideas and requests at You, which You will have pouring in soon enough anyway, believe You me...:-)

So keep with it, if Your company would register an IPO , I'd buy stock tomorrow . I never thought I would say that. And the best thing, you might soon make a living at something, that You would be tinkering on anyway, when You're doing what You like doing...

Independence...nuttn' like it...:-)

Video
 

I have some video of different bow hunters shooting different mounts on different bows with different equipment.It has turned out pretty well so far.
I'll be posting them on my site along with dimensions and weights of the components.

I said bulky...not heavy...

Just like having a stabilizer.The battery pack isn't noticeable at all and is less than 3\4 " thick. I don't notice it on my bow once I start shooting. I think( and most of the guys that are testing the mounts now) agree that a quick disco is best.

My stabilizer doesnt go out 4-5 inches, up another 4-5 inches and has a 2.5x4.5in square on it.

It doesn't need to.
Check out the tweaks or the standard mounts @:
http://forhuntersbyhunters.blogspot.com/p/products.html

I am not sure of your needs by your post. Send us an email and we can build what you need.

Sounds like a pretty cool idea but i was just thinking about the shock of the bowstring. will the shot eventually mess up your phone? i do like how you are incorporating modern technology into something a little more rudimentary. very cool

Built in vibration isolation.THe whole kit is built off of vibration isolators.

How do you find the app on the android market can't seem to find it or is it not released yet?

First thing I noticed, she is gripping the bow too hard. Seriously, first thing I noticed.

Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black.....I'm sure you use a bow and arrows that you made yourself, with flint arrow heads, right?

Or maybe, like the majority of us, you've taken advantage of what technology has provided us with todays high speed compound bows, carbon arrows, and just about any broadhead imaginable.

Or you rifle hunt with todays modern equipment as opposed to throwing spears or hitting game with a big rock?

You should be ashamed.

Which app do you speak of?

First thing I noticed is that she is getting her bow worked on at full draw...
...what is the relevance?

Edit:
First thing she noticed is that you are a Redskins fan...she said" Thanks for taking Donovan off her hands!" - Haha!

Thanks for your input.

For the life of me, I could not see the bow!

:jaw:

Have you filmed a hunt yet? Any footage of a kill? Have you shot luminoks while videoing? This is probably one of the coolest ideas i've seen in a long time.