Alex G. those numbers DO vary from state to state. I can't quote them, but seems like I remember Iowa has quite a few crossbow hunters % wise, like triple or even more that what we have % wise here in Arkansas.

Regardless, never has allowing them been a negative.

Think back to when compounds were so hotly debated. Manufacturers WANTED them in, of course, and the bowhunters at that time (called "traditional" now) fought tooth and nail to keep them out for exactly the same reasons we see compounders arguing today against crossbows.

Isn't that ironic?

So anyway, compounds WERE allowed, and they've revolutionized bowhunting like nobody ever expected. Even the great P&Y club has no credibility anymore after caving to the releases and sights, and letoff's etc

I guess you are familiar with the parable of the Workers in the Vineyard....you know... the worker that worked all day got paid the same as the ones working a few hours. The ones that had to work all day felt they were cheated because the other guys got a better deal. Its not that they were cheated but the fact that someone else got a better deal that made them so mad....Sounds just like the complaint you have.

Sure it is! I'm not going to change your mind. You're not going to change my mind. Kybuckhunter isn't going to change Bigcountry's mind and Bigcountry isn't going to change Kybuckhunter's mind. The bottom line is this: It is what it is. It's law now. Crossbows are allowed by LAW. It's been that way in all of the states that I hunt in for a while and all the pissing, moaning and down-right childish, immature mud-slinging in the world isn't going to change a thing. There comes a time when we just have to grow up and face the cold hard facts... they're here and they're here to stay.

That parable is about Jesus Christ and grace. Whoever takes part in Christ's work will be admitted no matter if they have served Christ 60 years, or accepted Him as God and King for 2 days. Eternal life, and arrowguns don't mix.

ABSOLUTELY

I argued for a long time AGAINST crossbows, that's part of why i know all the arguments for and against them.

The core question is this - does allowing them in archery season (A) have a negative impact on the herd and/or (B) does it negatively impact the bag limits



same as with all people going to bow season really ..... and more is good, not bad


good, let them use their tags early season and you can rut hunt all by yourself

Yes I understand it is all about Gods grace as this is the only way to heaven. You can not earn your way or work your way in...I get that.

It just sounds that Rev was saying something very similar in that he felt the bow hunters worked longer and harder to "earn" their spot and the late comers to the game ( the xbow hunters ) didn't deserve the same treatment because they didn't pay their dues and work as hard..Even you must admit this is dead on.

The worldly lusts and God's grace are two totally different things. I see no simularities whatsoever. Not saying that to be difficult. Not saying that because the way you treated me on this thread. Just saying it because it makes no sense.

my my... hunting is hard period. Its a rediculious arguement to say that someone that "needs" more time to become proficient with their weapon of choice should get more preferencial treatment for season. Thats just ludicrous. Not all Xbow hunters are latecomers to the game. Ive been hunting for almost 40 years now so it cant be said that I havent "paid my dues and put in my time". I spend weeks/months preping, shooting and educating myself. I use a xbow because I choose too... so putting all xbow users into the "latecomer" catagory is uneducated and ignorant. Go to Basspro, Cabelas... or your sporting goods store of choice that sells all archery equip the day/week before hunting season starts and see how many new long bow, compound bow and xbow buyers there are. And then we can talk about latecomers.

Alex G. the old times of P&Y scare tactics are gone ....... the general public know the truth, the G&F agencies do too and once they're allowed for everyone, everyone will realize they're not negatives to archery seasn, no more so than compounds.

Compounders have a very difficult time grasping that .........

Ok, gonna be my first and last time being in the topic cause I hate baing tangled up in a discusion like this.
My opinion crossbow hunter's should not have the same law's as compound bow hunter's.Someone hunting with a crossbow IMO should have a later opening day,larger animal size restriction,and should only be aloud to use it in the crossbow season.Compound's,should be the ealiest opening day for hunting,smaller animal size restriction(although yes in some places where you can afford to do it,you probably need a size restrction)and compound's I think should be aloud from start of bow season threw all rifle,and blackpowder season's and end somewhere around end of January..In a state like arkansas

I might be a teenager but I'm entitled to a opinion and this is it.