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genesis27:3 04-13-2010 11:33 AM

Release? Can I do without?
 
I am BIG GAME bow hunting for the first time this season. I am not a fan of the trigger releases, arm guards, stabilizars....etc. Can I hunt without em? If I practice without em, can't I get good without them?
The Indians did :confused0024: I have talked to some people that have said you HAVE to hunt with a release, but they haven't told me,Why.

Thanks for da help.
:party0005:

LittleChief 04-13-2010 11:38 AM

Of Course!
 
Sure you can. If that's what you want to do then go for it. There are more than a few compound finger shooters on here, and I've seen some that were just plain GOOD. From the sound of it you should just lose the wheels and go trad.

Me personally, I can't hit squat with my longbow, so I'll stick to my compound and my trusty Scott Sabretooth release for now.....

kwilson16 04-13-2010 02:15 PM

A release will significantly improve accuracy.

You can do without the stab but the bow will balance better in your hand and vibrate less with it.

Ditch the armguard.

nchawkeye 04-13-2010 03:36 PM

No problem, less to go wrong...I started in the 60s with a recurve...I have never used a release...I also don't use a stabilizer, peep sight, arm guard, mechanical broadheads or carbon arrows...

Do what you want, it's a sport so it should be fun...

MeanV2 04-14-2010 11:33 AM

If you are going to shoot a modern compound I highly suggest you learn to use a release and use it properly. Modern short A to A, high letoff compounds are not the best bow to use for finger release.

If you want to shoot fingers, etc, and have the time to devote to practicing then take a look at traditional.

Dan

2 Samuel 22:35 04-14-2010 12:24 PM

Use a release,
It will improve your accuracy.
Use a stabilizer
It will improve your stability
Use a arm-guard
It will prevent............lets just say i have experience. :(

genesis27:3 04-14-2010 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by 2 Samuel 22:35 (Post 3612602)
Use a release,
It will improve your accuracy.
Use a stabilizer
It will improve your stability
Use a arm-guard
It will prevent............lets just say i have experience. :(

Another release freak! :nonono2:
HA HA JK.
Sorry but I decided im gonna do without all that fancy high tech huntin stuff. :wave:

YooperMike 04-14-2010 06:03 PM

Is your bow of a sufficient axle to axle length that you are able to shoot it with fingers? The short ATA bows will pinch your fingers REALLY bad and you will have terrible accuracy as well as some real sore fingers. There is nothing wrong with shooting fingers, but your gear needs to match accordingly. i learned on fingers, but it was a 47" ATA bow

Wolf killer 04-14-2010 07:11 PM

You will shoot a more consistant group if you use a release.

I was told that Chuck Adams thinks a release is one of the best things to come alone in modern archery.

bigbulls 04-14-2010 07:47 PM

If you are going to shoot a modern compound with a short axle to axle length (less than 40") then it is an absolute must, IMO, to use a mechanical release.

If you want to use fingers then you will find only a hand full of bows that would qualify as a finger bow, and then only barely. You should have a bow that is at least 40" axle to axle.

Another problem with today's modern bows is the hard back wall that you pull against. Most finger shooters I know prefer to have a bow with a "spongy" wall to pull against. There aren't many bows made today that have finger friendly cams.

The Rev 04-15-2010 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by genesis27:3 (Post 3612103)
I am BIG GAME bow hunting for the first time this season. I am not a fan of the trigger releases, arm guards, stabilizars....etc. Can I hunt without em? If I practice without em, can't I get good without them?
The Indians did :confused0024: I have talked to some people that have said you HAVE to hunt with a release, but they haven't told me,Why.

Thanks for da help.
:party0005:

You can do whatever you want, you don't have to use release or stabilizer.You can hit a deer over the head with your bow if you wish!

Myself, I prefer to use what makes me a better shooter and more efficient hunter.
There is a reason you don't want to use peripherals, either you can't afford them, or you are scared of them. BTW, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, sometimes people are skeptic of something they do not understand.:D

wvnimrod 04-15-2010 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by 2 Samuel 22:35 (Post 3612602)
Use a release,
It will improve your accuracy.
Use a stabilizer
It will improve your stability
Use a arm-guard
It will prevent............lets just say i have experience. :(

a release- yes it will improve accuracy!
A stab- can improve stability!
But a arm-guard??- If you need to use a arm guard, IMO you need to learn PROPER FORM! With proper form and a properly fit draw length, hitting your arm will not be a problem!

genesis27:3 04-15-2010 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by The Rev (Post 3612891)
You can do whatever you want, you don't have to use release or stabilizer.You can hit a deer over the head with your bow if you wish!

Myself, I prefer to use what makes me a better shooter and more efficient hunter.
There is a reason you don't want to use peripherals, either you can't afford them, or you are scared of them. BTW, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, sometimes people are skeptic of something they do not understand.:D

Scared of them? :lolabove: Do they bite?
People have gone without that hi tech stuff for years. If I practice without em (and get accurate) whats the diffrence between using em and not using them? I am not a deer stand hunter cause I dont live in The woods, I am hunting in sage brush and scrub oak. In order to get within range of a deer im gonna have to stalk, I dont like the idea of stalkin with what I think is unnessesary gear hangin all over me. Plus if I can do without, why spend the money?
I think I am gonna try huntin without that extra stuff this season, If it doesint work than I will do it your way.
If I get one I am sendin u pics! :happy0001:

Gen

bigbulls 04-15-2010 06:48 AM

What bow are you going to hunt with? Cause it's gonna matter.

BTW, I have never been hunting and had "stuff hangin all over me". I'mnot sure what you are actually getting at.

genesis27:3 04-15-2010 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by bigbulls (Post 3612947)
What bow are you going to hunt with? Cause it's gonna matter.

BTW, I have never been hunting and had "stuff hangin all over me". I'mnot sure what you are actually getting at.

I am huntin with a PSE brute (compound). I mean, puttin a stalk on a buck, crawlin on the ground with a release strapped to my hand doesint sound quiet or comfy. :confused0024:

genesis27:3 04-15-2010 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by wvnimrod (Post 3612914)
a release- yes it will improve accuracy!
A stab- can improve stability!
But a arm-guard??- If you need to use a arm guard, IMO you need to learn PROPER FORM! With proper form and a properly fit draw length, hitting your arm will not be a problem!

Thats what I told him! :D
I think it is happening cause his bow is set at to much poundage for him. :confused0024:

Schultzy 04-16-2010 05:56 AM

Nothing wrong with shooting fingers. I know of a few people around here who still shoot compounds using fingers Instead of a trigger. Someone mentioned the compounds of today don't fit the finger shooters very well. There's truth to It being these compounds look like little kid bows. What's the ATA length on your PSE? I'm a recurve shooter and some day I may have to go back to a compound when my age gets up there and when or If I do there won't be no release In my hand either.

Ancient Archer 04-16-2010 06:45 AM

If you want to hunt with your bow with the least amount of gear, you could even eliminate the peep as long as you have a good and consistent anghor. Just tie in some white thread. or similar, that your eye catches where the peep was at full draw.

bigcountry 04-16-2010 08:00 AM

IMO, every archer should learn to shoot fingers. At least once in thier life.

It really depends on your draw length. Most mfg still make at least one model that is good for finger shooting. The string angle is what gets you. If you shoot less than 28" draw, then 37" ATA would be perfect for fingers, if you shoot more than that, go higher to 40" ATA.

I do shoot a release with modern bows, but a person who is willing to master a good clean release can shoot right with a trigger shooter with good hunting accuracy. But it takes practice. I go by the idea that less is more these days. I went the route of going from a longbow in my childhood to a compound (fingers of course) to trigger, to big a$$ stabilizers, to compound to compound, more and more crap hanging off of it, and now back to longbow. There is something so satisfying with it.

bigbulls 04-16-2010 08:40 AM


I am huntin with a PSE brute (compound).
You are not going to like shooting with fingers with the Brute. Nothing wrong at all shooting with fingers but you need a bow that will allow you to do it comfortable and accurately.


I mean, puttin a stalk on a buck, crawlin on the ground with a release strapped to my hand doesint sound quiet or comfy.
You don't even notice it.

sportsman22 04-18-2010 03:54 PM

If you can shoot consistently accurate and comfortable, go for it. But if you can't, use them because its not worth wounding animals and not being able to recover them.

I see guys come in every once in a while shooting their bare bone bows and not hitting squat at any target 10-50 yards. I don't know their circumstances (money, knowledge... etc?) so I really don't suggest anything to them. But if those guys are going out to the woods with their setups they definately have a lower chance of a clean shot.

2 Samuel 22:35 04-19-2010 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by genesis27:3 (Post 3612613)
Another release freak! :nonono2:
HA HA JK.
Sorry but I decided im gonna do without all that fancy high tech huntin stuff. :wave:

Its a free country:sheep:
So go ahead and try
but it is a proven fact that realeases help your accuracy

drockw 04-19-2010 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by 2 Samuel 22:35 (Post 3615108)
Its a free country:sheep:
So go ahead and try
but it is a proven fact that realeases help your accuracy

Yep very true, but it takes only a certain level of accuracy to kill animals... If he is profficient enough to shoot 6" groups out to 40 I'd say that's good enough;)

2 Samuel 22:35 04-22-2010 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by drockw (Post 3615115)
Yep very true, but it takes only a certain level of accuracy to kill animals... If he is profficient enough to shoot 6" groups out to 40 I'd say that's good enough;)

Yes thats true too but when you use your fingers you cant imitate the same realease every time.
When you use a realease it releases the arrow exactly the same every time. :cool2:
Thats all I meant.

Valentine 04-23-2010 11:41 AM

You can do anything
 
like that your little heart desires. But I wouldn't spend a dime on a compound bow and not use a release.
And my shoulders wouldn't have been worth a dime today, if I never used a release.

The Rev 04-23-2010 11:45 AM

I don't like using my fingers on my long bow... but I do..


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