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brushbustin 02-23-2010 02:03 PM

Peep...No tubing
 
I was shooting my brother in laws bow the other day and he had a no tubing peep,a blue one I think,I belive it was a G5..Anyway,I really liked it alot,but wonder if it would always perform good or is there times when it doesn't want to rotate around..In other words,i'd like to hear yalls opinion on a tubless peep..Im in the middle of some bow upgrades including a new string,and am thinking of getting a tubless peep..

ajstrider 02-23-2010 02:09 PM

Once your string gets broken in and settled out, the peep stays where it is, and you just need to make sure your string loop that your release grabs is positioned right so when you draw back, it will rotate to where it needs to be. At rest, my peep and D loop sit about 90 degrees to the side, and when I draw back, perfect alignment.

diamondrack 02-23-2010 02:17 PM

A tubeless peep is a ton better in my opinion, I've shot one on my last couple bows probably for the past 10 years.. To be honest its been a while since I've seen someones bow that didn't have a tubeless peep.. It usually takes some time to break-in your string and can take some adjusting during this period but once that sets in it all good from there.. I actually just purchased the Bowtech Destroyer and decided to go peepless all-together.. I've been wanting to do this for years and decided to take the leap and try it with-out, so far it has been a positive change..

twildasin 02-24-2010 04:56 AM

My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about

Howler 02-24-2010 05:25 AM

[quote]My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about[ /quote] Until that tubing breaks at full draw and smacks ya in the eye ball.

BvrHunter 02-24-2010 05:38 AM

I'm def in favor of a tubless peep!! I use the G5 meta peep large size and its awesome. A friend of mine still has the tube and is constantly having problems with it fallin off or breaking. I'm sure not all tube peeps are that bad but I rather not have to deal with any of it.

MOhunter46 02-24-2010 05:44 AM

[quote=Howler;3583037]

My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about[ /quote] Until that tubing breaks at full draw and smacks ya in the eye ball.
I was just getting ready to say that. Ya thats just what i want, a tight rubber tube, tied to the cable, pointed right at my eye. No thanks, ill take my tubeless.

twildasin 02-24-2010 06:07 AM

[QUOTE=MOhunter46;3583050]

Originally Posted by Howler (Post 3583037)
I was just getting ready to say that. Ya thats just what i want, a tight rubber tube, tied to the cable, pointed right at my eye. No thanks, ill take my tubeless.

Hey bud sry never happened and never will! All u got to do is take care of your equipment! Not that hard to do! But I guess for some guys it is! Anyways to each his own. For the couple pennies tubing cost I will continue to use it! Oh yea and replace when needed so it doesn't smack my eye! :-)

MOhunter46 02-24-2010 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by twildasin (Post 3583068)

Hey bud sry never happened and never will! All u got to do is take care of your equipment! Not that hard to do! But I guess for some guys it is! Anyways to each his own. For the couple pennies tubing cost I will continue to use it! Oh yea and replace when needed so it doesn't smack my eye! :-)


You are right, to each his own but never say never, theres always a first for everything. Maybe your in a hurry and you dont get the tube tied just right and the first time you draw back it pops you in the eye. Id prefer to keep my eyesight in both eyes:s4:

trailinone 02-24-2010 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by twildasin (Post 3583026)
My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about

I'm with you on that. I just replace my tubing about 3 or 4 times per year, to keep it from dry rotting. I will continue to use a tube, just to ensure it doesn't twist on me when it's time.
Chris

kdtanner228 02-24-2010 08:25 AM

ive never had a tube hit my eye but it has been a while since i used one too. IMO tubless is the way to go. if you shoot winners choice strings or VTs that peep wont turn if you shoot a properly installed string loop, in my experience. the other advantage is that you shed some weight off of your string, which picks up your arrow speed slightly and makes your strings last longer. ;) if you decide to shoot tubeless, be sure to pick a peep that is machined aluminum. i have seen plastic ones bust during a shot. you will not regret changing over!!

BvrHunter 02-24-2010 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by trailinone (Post 3583149)
I'm with you on that. I just replace my tubing about 3 or 4 times per year, to keep it from dry rotting. I will continue to use a tube, just to ensure it doesn't twist on me when it's time.
Chris

Not that I'm baggin on tubing, but when you have to change it 3 or 4times a year so it doesn't dry rot just seems like a big pain in the butt to me. I've had my Vectrix for three years now with a G5 peep on there, even put it on a winners choice string last year and have not had the first problem. And def not worried about it dry rotting. Just my two cents

diamondrack 02-24-2010 11:06 AM

To solve the problem just go PEEPLESS!! If you shot enough and have some displine with your knocking point then you shouldn't have a problem converting over to no peep.. I recently did and it is much better.. If i didn't shoot peepless then I would 100% go with tubeless.. The guys on here can say what they want but there are a few things about the tube like "it breaking and smacking you in the eye" (Yes, some may say well just take care of your equipement and check it--well what if your on an elk hunt in the mountains and your in some real thick **** and possibly catch it on something causing a slight tear or frey it, now a 350 class bull walks out at 20 yards--you draw--and whack, you no longer can see out of your right eye--that would be a blast miles from no where!), or having to check it all the time just so you know when to change it (A PAIN IN THE BUTT!), I can go on and on all day.. Put a tubeless on your bow, shoot it for a week or two adn the string will stretch--now your set for months or even years without worry or problems..

Randyoregonhunter 02-24-2010 11:24 AM

I honestly dont see any really good reason for a tubeless peep? There is actually alot of people still using the tube peeps. I have seen freinds pull back on animals with a tubeless and not close the deal because of it being twisted, this has never happend to me with a tube. Thats just my opinion though. Im sure they work well for some.

LKNCHOPPERS 02-24-2010 11:29 AM

[quote=Howler;3583037]

My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about[ /quote] Until that tubing breaks at full draw and smacks ya in the eye ball.

I use a peep with tubing as well. When the tubing breaks it usually goes the other way not at you. If you put a new piece on at the beginning of the season each year, you will not have a problem. It is a trade off you had to decide for your self.

halfbakedi420 02-24-2010 11:45 AM

could someone post pics of a tube peep and a tubeless peep? think i have a tube, if its a alloy circle with the string divided in 3 around it?

LKNCHOPPERS 02-24-2010 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3583266)
could someone post pics of a tube peep and a tubeless peep? think i have a tube, if its a alloy circle with the string divided in 3 around it?

A tube peep has a length of rubber tubing attached to it for alignment at full draw. A tubeless peep relies on the bowstring to rotate into the same position everytime at full draw.

Both usually work but each can fail for diffrerent reasons.

halfbakedi420 02-24-2010 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by LKNCHOPPERS (Post 3583272)
A tube peep has a length of rubber tubing attached to it for alignment at full draw. A tubeless peep relies on the bowstring to rotate into the same position everytime at full draw.

Both usually work but each can fail for diffrerent reasons.

tubeless here...3 string...i hate the 2 string

MeanV2 02-25-2010 03:39 AM

Quality Strings, Peep properly installed and you will never have a problem. I'm not sure how many years I've used a tubeless peep but I do know I've never had the 1st problem.

Not that it is a Huge deal but tubed peeps are speed killers. They will usually cost you 10 to 15fps.

Quality tubeless peeps which I carry are the G5 Meta peep, Tru-Peep, Red eye peep, and VaporTrails new line of peeps.

Dan

RidgeFACTOR 02-25-2010 01:57 PM

Peep Sights
 
These might help you out alittle...
SIGHT1
SIGHT2
SIGHT3

Waldo Hunter 02-25-2010 03:31 PM

on my old switchback I had a tube on it and switched to a tubeless. I liked the tubeless alot better. One of my buddys was shooting a tubless on his switchback and you could hear that their was noise from my tube when i shot. IMO a good string and tubeless is the way to go. Your not set up right or you dont have your strings broke in if you get peep twist.

RIStrutStopper 02-26-2010 06:36 AM

I have had a tube pop off of the peep while practicing. If it could happen during practice, it can also happen during crunch time. It also made me nervous having a stretched rubber tube pointing right at my eye. Stuff happens... I use a tubeless peep now with W/C strings and never had a problem.

BOWHUNTERCOP 02-26-2010 06:57 AM

In the past I have always used the Shur-Zee peep (no tubing), this year on my new Mathews Z7 I went with the G5 Meta Peep, and while shooting I too notice it was twisting, my friend who set up my bow stated to me, you have the let the string streach then all will be fine, I trust what he says and from others on here they have said the same

palmergt3 02-26-2010 04:26 PM

[quote=Howler;3583037]

My peep has tubing and I never need to worry about it being there for my eye at the moment of truth! No breaking in string no making sure it's aligned just shoot it's there! A nice insurance when hunting! One less thing to worry about[ /quote] Until that tubing breaks at full draw and smacks ya in the eye ball.
And yes that really does hurt like HELL I had it happen to me 2yrs ago, hense the reason I switched to a tubless sight. The only problem I had with mine is I do not use a d-loop so I just had to put somthing on the string(can't think for the life of me what it is called right now) that basically twists my string for me as I draw back to line up the peep

Kman1 02-26-2010 06:15 PM

I went tubeless this year. I had a lot of trouble with my tube breaking on me in inopportune times. I won't go back...


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