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So, back in my newbie days I attempted to use the highly hyped 100gr thunderheads...damn things wouldn’t group…..high and left...switched to Vortec and killed some deer…..got hooked on expendables....that was 1993...granted I have moved on to Jackhammer SSTs in 100gr....but..I would love to find a broadhead that doesn’t plane...I just read allot on "Zero Plane" broadheads by American broad head Company.....also read lots of G5s...my arrows are 32"s long and I run 4 inch vanes with slight helical...I am looking for a NON-PLANE fixed blade (cut-on contact or chisel) broadhead. I don’t want to buy tons of different kinds...but would settle on experimenting with a few different recommendations.

Suggestions?

Try the Shuttle T. Works for me.

I never knew vortex was out in 1993?

Anyway, montecs plane little to none. Its easy to spot a low planing BH. Less surface area, less planing. I was trying to BH tune my commander 2 years ago. and tried with Montec's and couldn't get any reaction with regard to POI with field points. So I put on some phantoms and steel force (high planing BH) and tuned it in, and still montecs hit with field points and grouped better.

But I had trouble getting the sharpness desired with montecs. I killed 3 deer with the same head. But I notice I didn't get the wound channel I wanted.

I moved to tricks and they plane more than G5's. Any 4 blade will.

Honestly I don't care if my heads plane or not if my bow is tuned and arrows spine matches that. One also needs to go thru their arrows and spine tune. I find 30% of arrows have inconsistent spines.

I want to try the shuttles. They look like quality head.

I've never had any trouble getting any of the top broadheads to fly if I wanted to shoot them. Muzzys were the hardest and Slick Tricks were the easiest. I actually prefer 4 blade heads for more cutting.

IMHO Slick Tricks are as good as it gets when it comes to flight, toughness, and damage inflicted.;)

Dan

I like anything with a short profile and cut on contact. I use the Wacems but also like the magnus stingers, shuttle t, Montecs, Slick tricks. There are a few other brands out there as well. The wacems fly perfect and I have no reason to switch.

g5's fly very true! and are near indestructable! keep em sharp tho!

The biggest thing with broadhead flight is tuning....I have no issues with any quality head out of my bow.....now that i tuned it correctly!

I shoot Muzzy's with a stiff spined arrow out of my 70# General , and experince little planing but my group is so good i cand shoot in the same spot cause it tears stuff up..I have also shot the slick tricks that were very easy to tune but i didnt like the small cutting diamiter compared to my muzzy..I would like to try the MUZZY PHANTOM, have heard good things about its ability to tune like a FP..
Good luck with your find,

-NICK

Which Trick you shoot? The Magnums and the Grizz Tricks will cut a hole as Big or Bigger than any muzzy and they are much tougher and sharper.:s4:

Dan

I recommend the American boradhead sonics or libertys. I've killed deer with both and both group with my fieldpoints. Also scary sharp. My bow isnt very fast, But the guy i hunt with shoots a Parker force multiplier, and the sonics fly like his field tips too. Very good penetration, cuz they are cut on contact.

If folks didn't need to shoot 300fps+ there would be less planing problem IMO. I shoot 200 grain Muzzy Phantoms and the 200 grain Samurai at 230fps and 250 fps and have no problems whatsoever. They hit where I aim out to 40 yards.



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X2 on the sonics! Ive used them for the past 2 seasons with great results and Ive got a dozen brand new ones ready to go this year.
Flight is excellent and penetration is amazing. Ive also been very surprised at how heavy the bllodtrails are from such a small head.

Heres a couple of the deer Ive taken with sonics.

Ive never had a problem with any head ive ever used (well, some mechanicals had issues with penetration). Ive used all kinds of heads, 1970s bear file edge, went from there to thunder heads back in the 80s and shot those up until the mid 90s. Since then ive used sonics, liberty, slick tricks, monotec, magnus, Eagles, and several different mechanicals. Lost interest in the mechanicals. Ill be using Magnus and monotec with my trad bows and if I pull out the compound this year, it will be Muzzy. The key is to have your gear tuned. If your arrow, head, and bow are all tuned, you shouldnt be seeing much planning at normal distances with most any head now a days.

Sonics are very under rated. There only draw back is they can get ruined if u hit bone of rock, but we arent aiming for bone or rock. Im using the sonic pro 100 grains this year. They are the only broadhead ive ever shot that hit exactly with my field tips. Other than mechanicals of course. Im glad there is someone else on this forum who likes them. Also, very accurate at long distances. Alot farther than id shoot at a live animal. I killed a squirrel at 45 yards. Lucky? Yes. But they shoot as good as my FPs.

Hoyt, i must disagree about the toughness of sonics. I actually think they are one of the toughest heads out there. They are all steel, and have thick blades. The 3 deer I taken with them, all were complete pass thrus, after hitting some sort of bone and sticking a foot or so, into the rocky earth beind them. The 200lb 8 point, in my pic, in my last post, sliced through both scpulas like warm butter, not one head bent or lost a blade. The trick is to tighten the rear locking ring down with plyers as hard as you can ,I even use a little treadlocker.I do agree w/ you, they are very underrated ,but also very under priced.:cool2:

You shouldl look at the quad pro by carbon express. The design of this head has been around for a few years, but was recently packaged by carbon express instead of eastman. I

Top notch heads here. They do plane alot and will tell you about it out of a bow/arrow combo not tuned, but I like em.

I have shot three deer with them, and broke the head only when i spined one of them. The ferrule broke, but the deer dropped.

I shoot Slick Trick 100 grain magnums and they perform very well. They also have four thick strong blades 0.035".

Several years ago, after a massive broadhead failure with Bear Razorheads, I switched to a chisel tipped broadhead made by Kolpin (no longer available). The three blades were inserted into the body at about a 60 degree angle (which seemed to match the hard helix of my fletching well). These broadheads "twisting" action actually helped to spiral them after launch and the arrows shot tighter groups than the fieldtips they replaced. They were also very tough heads...

Check with NAP...the last time I looked they were beginning to produce some very similar broadheads to help with high speed bows...

Be sure that your bow is TUNED though...I have not had any problems with any broadheads that I have tried...launch speed is 315 ft/s.

Check out the Hellrazors by NAP, similar design to the montecs but they are much sharper right out of the package. You'll love them, they fly great, are easy to resharpen, and are tough as nails!!

My vote goes to slick tricks.

Thanks for all the input...I am already sure my bow is tuned.....blow nocks/vanes off arrows at 40yrds and under groupings...never have had a tune problem with my current bow......like I said in initial post...haven’t tried a fixed blade since 1993...and YES Vortec was making the 2 blade version I was using in same year...one HELL of a cutting path...but furrel was weak and set screw for blade would actually drive right out other side....anyway---looks like I got some good options to experiment with...thanks all again.

The most important thing is making sure your bow is tuned properly...If it isn't you will never get any broadhead to fly right.

Then your bow is to tuned, I tune my bow to shoot any and all broadheads and I love the thunderhead shot it for 18 yrs. After all the shooting all summer my bow gets tuned to shoot a Thunderhead 100/125 a two blade bear a G5 and then what I am shooting this year Bloodrunners and they all will hit with my field tips out to 50 yards.. Do this to your bow and you will be much happier when season rolls around.. Walt

Opps that should have read (your bow is NOT tuned)