Quite defensive it seems thats all..

I have a quiver full of rages along with a g5 striker. I tune my bow for the striker and have no worries with the rage. Ive had several different broadheads "fail" to do what I wanted them to. In all reality the heads didnt fail I just asked too much out of them. I shot a doe at a very severe quartering away angle. The arrow hit right at the last rib and the head didnt penetrated the rib cage until it reached the deers shoulder. Thats like 18+ inches it slid between the ribs and the hide. Lukily it did kill the deer but I switched heads after that. That was a muzzy 100 grain 3 blade. Ive also had a muzzy hit a deer shoulder and snap off with like 3 inches of penetration. Did the head fail, not really. Going through a big bucks shoulder/leg bone is a pretty tough task to ask for. I buddy of mine shot a doe with a phantom and the bleeder blade pushed back and cut through his arrow. Never found that deer. Ive seen spitfires deflect on impact. No matter what head you shoot strange things can and do happen. Are expandables perfect, no but neither are fixed blade heads. You just have to know your equipment, have it as well tuned as possible and know you limitations. Even doing that bad things happen.

I was anti mech for a long time, but last saturday I took my first buck, a little 8, with a G5 tekan. (pics and all to be posted later tonight) The broadhead performed awesome, but my bow was tuned to shoot darts with muzzies so I knowI had maximized my KE when I switched to mechanicals. I think a couple things happened to this guy, all things that he'll learn as he hunts longer. Who doesnt make mistakes when there learning how to do something new? The first was not broadhead tuning his bow. Second, I dont know his set-up but personally I dont think anyone with less than 70 KE should be shooting a rage two blade. Finally he didnt wait enough and pushed the buck. The buck I shot saturday went 60 yards and I heard him crash and gurgle blood, but I still waited an hour out of habit.

To the guy who started the thread, lesson learned, its all part of hunting, now get back out there and put your tag on one!

Defensive? More like a question for me.

I would think that the buck would of died due to 8 inches being enough to get into the cavity but if it just punctured one lung it would take a while and with you tracking him right away he could be over a mile away dead somewhere. I started using rages last year and shot a doe and a buck with them, and both were complete pass throughs with the arrow stuck a few inches into the ground. Also the blood trails for both deer were a couple feet wide and the deer both died within 40 yards. But i have seen plenty of threads with mechanical blades saying they didnt get much penetration and couldnt find a deer when hitting in the shoulder so i make sure i aim back a couple inches or only a quartering away shot. But anyway it happens to all of us so get him next time. Just learn from this time. Good luck

As far as the initial topic. If you indeed got 8 inches of penetration, that deer is dead. End of story.

I have killed a deer during a gun season that had one lung deflated from an arrow. 8" won't always do it, especially if its a grazing shot.

LOL, see BC now youre just being confrontational. 8" into a deers side in most cases is deep enough to hit the heart too. I'm not trying to argue with you, so you can stop whenever you like.

All I can tell ya is my experience. You made a statement that does not always hold true. I seen it first hand.

Again, its what a forum is for.

Good to know. But I still stand by if it penetrated 8" its a dead deer. Can a buck survive with one collapsed lung? Sure.

Gonna go do some scouting real quick. I'll get back to you when I return BC. ;)