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TFOX 09-11-2009 08:18 PM

how many consider
 
I have been a lower ke shooter for some time now and have done penetration test on some of my setups.I have found 2 common themes when it comes to penetration,higher foc and fletching type make a big difference.If i shot a 700 grain arrow with 5% foc,it would stop like a rock but at 11% foc and 350 grain penetration was great.Didn't get much better untill I hit 18% BUT I digress.When my arrows would get hung up in my medium,it was almost always at the fletching when using vanes.But with feathers,I blasted right through.


That has really kept me away from using Blazers(along with other reasons)I watched Tiffaney Lakoskey shoot a deer on She Saffari and her arrow buried right up to her blazers and stopped.

Ok,yes the deer is dead and will be found by most decent trackers but how many actually consider this when picking out what style fletching they are going to use.The arrow on the ground will insure a better trail(not to mention reading the blood on the arrow) but in my case,saves me a few dollars.I use expensive arrows and prefer to be able to pick them up and use them again.


I wished I was able to shoot a setup that I didn't have to worry about such a trivial thing.

Just wondered how many others actually give it a second thought.

twildasin 09-11-2009 09:02 PM

I shoot blazers tipped with a 57gr. Broadhead and I blow right threw deer no problem and my total arrow weight is 300gr. Put the arrow where it needs to be there will be no problem.

TFOX 09-11-2009 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by twildasin (Post 3438180)
I shoot blazers tipped with a 57gr. Broadhead and I blow right threw deer no problem and my total arrow weight is 300gr. Put the arrow where it needs to be there will be no problem.


I have blown through several deer and I can tell you,when using lower energy setups,even a rib can cause problems,especially on a mature buck.

mauser06 09-11-2009 09:29 PM

never considered it tfox....

but i KNOW i have experienced the same thing...ive burried my shaft into my BH target and my bag many times upto the blazers...very rarely past them...

but when i shot feathers, they zipped through...usually trashing the feather which is part of why i quit shooting them...i loved them but couldnt stand them ruffled lol...but alot got "shaved" off as they passed through and i beat them beyond belief or chance of revival in short time...not just due to pass throughs on targets either...


only deer i shot was with blazers....arrow blew threw into the glacial till type soil of the north woods...though ive seen it on shows as well where a shaft stops at the fletchings...always vanes...

hmmmm guess thats potentially one more item to add to the list of things that contribute to a pass through...

"but if you line your blazers up with your broadhead blades they will pass right through the slices of the blads..." im going to beat someone to it.......lol

TFOX 09-11-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by mauser06 (Post 3438184)
never considered it tfox....

but i KNOW i have experienced the same thing...ive burried my shaft into my BH target and my bag many times upto the blazers...very rarely past them...

but when i shot feathers, they zipped through...usually trashing the feather which is part of why i quit shooting them...i loved them but couldnt stand them ruffled lol...but alot got "shaved" off as they passed through and i beat them beyond belief or chance of revival in short time...not just due to pass throughs on targets either...

This is easily fixed with a little warm water and some drying,the shaved part is permanet but they still fly fine afterwards.


only deer i shot was with blazers....arrow blew threw into the glacial till type soil of the north woods...though ive seen it on shows as well where a shaft stops at the fletchings...always vanes...

hmmmm guess thats potentially one more item to add to the list of things that contribute to a pass through...

"but if you line your blazers up with your broadhead blades they will pass right through the slices of the blads..." im going to beat someone to it.......lol

not exactly;)


I am not starting this as an argument for feathers over vanes.I was curious about how many actually give it thought.AND to maybe get a few to think about it if you are in the same boat as I.

drockw 09-11-2009 10:48 PM

I dont really have to worry much about it being that i am a 30" DL.

BUT!!! I do have a story thats pretty interesting for this one...

So a few winters ago, I was shooting in my shop(pole barn, metal siding) and my release broke. Yes broke. Not me punch trigger. It broke. Old wal-mart release id had for a good deal of time. Anyways, the arrow litterally burried up to the fletchings, but stopped halfway in the BLAZERS. Now I imagine most of you know how thin metal siding is for a typical pole barn. I was shooting a roughly 400gr. axis at 285fps.

Now, im not planning on shooting barns, but I do believe if it would have been a feather or another softer vane, it would have been a pass-thru;)

Derek

GMMAT 09-11-2009 11:22 PM

How much KE are you producing? When I read this.....I'll probably wonder why you think you HAVE to be worried "about such a trivial thing".

luke/r 09-12-2009 12:06 AM

I have noticed this to. My brother and dad shoot blazers and their arrows get hung up in the bag target and my feathers go through.

Rhody Hunter 09-12-2009 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by drockw (Post 3438210)
I dont really have to worry much about it being that i am a 30" DL.

BUT!!! I do have a story thats pretty interesting for this one...

So a few winters ago, I was shooting in my shop(pole barn, metal siding) and my release broke. Yes broke. Not me punch trigger. It broke. Old wal-mart release id had for a good deal of time. Anyways, the arrow litterally burried up to the fletchings, but stopped halfway in the BLAZERS. Now I imagine most of you know how thin metal siding is for a typical pole barn. I was shooting a roughly 400gr. axis at 285fps.

Now, im not planning on shooting barns, but I do believe if it would have been a feather or another softer vane, it would have been a pass-thru;)

Derek

I think you should shoot another with feathers though your barn wall to compare for test purposes ;)

razor6570 09-12-2009 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rhody Hunter (Post 3438227)
I think you should shoot another with feathers though your barn wall to compare for test purposes ;)

Haha, good one! Until this happens, it will always be a mystery!


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