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TFOX 08-22-2009 08:04 PM

think deer don't drop
 
Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyEXZ...eature=related

chris2216 08-22-2009 08:12 PM

cool post. Theat deer was really gray in color too. Wow

TFOX 08-22-2009 08:18 PM

Pause the video when the arrow is on the way in slow mo and you can see his shot was online BUT you can also see how out of tune the bow is.

I love the slow motion stuff.

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-22-2009 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3416502)
Pause the video when the arrow is on the way in slow mo and you can see his shot was online BUT you can also see how out of tune the bow is.

I love the slow motion stuff.

The shot was a touch high but still online for a double lung. And yup, lot's of wobble in the arrow.

I had one drop the same way at 19 yards, calm and 285 fps out of Hoyt Tenacity II. Amazing animals.

BUCKMARK 08-22-2009 09:04 PM

If you could only read a deers mind. All your shots would be easy...After watching the video with the sound on, it sounded like that arrow was shot out of a canon...

TFOX 08-22-2009 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by BUCKMARK (Post 3416529)
If you could only read a deers mind. All your shots would be easy...After watchinf the video with the sound on, it sounded like that arrow was shot out of a canon...


When a camera is right beside the bow,most do.Especially in closed quarters like a blind.

BUCKMARK 08-22-2009 09:19 PM

I guess that is true. Never shot out of a blind before. I think my bow is loud, asked the wife to stand behind my once and she didn't hear a thing.

TFOX 08-22-2009 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by BUCKMARK (Post 3416536)
I guess that is true. Never shot out of a blind before. I think my bow is loud, asked the wife to stand behind my once and she didn't hear a thing.

Exactly,but with as out of tune this bow is,quite possible it is loud too.:confused0024:

drockw 08-22-2009 09:48 PM

I watched it about 30 times and it seemed like his arrow was really high to start with. If you notice when he drops and guestimate where the tip of the arrow is, it appears that the deer only drops a few " at the MOST before it hits.

Im not trying to take anything away from that freaking amazing reaction time either. I know i did make that thread a few weeks ago and this vid DEFINATELY shows the RT of a CALM, FEEDING deer adn its amazing w/out a doubt. I just dont think that his shot would have been that much lower than it was.

Its cool seeing what the arrow does when it hits the deer as well!

Nice find

TFOX 08-22-2009 09:55 PM

Use the pause button,looks like a center 10 to me.But not sure how calm he is around the feeder,he acts a little nervous TO ME.

drockw 08-22-2009 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3416553)
Use the pause button,looks like a center 10 to me.But not sure how calm he is around the feeder,he acts a little nervous TO ME.

True. He still aint comin in strutin from a rattle in or nothing like that and still has that blast of reaction.

im not saying he didnt drop or arguing the whole arrow speed thing either. To me it just seems that the camera angle is slightly higher than where the arrow was shot out so at first view to me it seems that the arrow starts out lower. Just a difference in perception probably. Still amazing...

TFOX 08-22-2009 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by drockw (Post 3416557)
True. He still aint comin in strutin from a rattle in or nothing like that and still has that blast of reaction.

im not saying he didnt drop or arguing the whole arrow speed thing either. To me it just seems that the camera angle is slightly higher than where the arrow was shot out so at first view to me it seems that the arrow starts out lower. Just a difference in perception probably. Still amazing...


We can all learn from videos like this.This deer seems to be exibiting signs of nervousness(how he is eating) even though he hasn't been stopped or rattled in.

Shot from ground level would dictate a lower shot than from a stand.That point of aim would probably be a dead deer from a stand but from a blind,he lived.

drockw 08-22-2009 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3416562)
We can all learn from videos like this.This deer seems to be exibiting signs of nervousness(how he is eating) even though he hasn't been stopped or rattled in.

Shot from ground level would dictate a lower shot than from a stand.That point of aim would probably be a dead deer from a stand but from a blind,he lived.

Definately! That should be a sticky of where to not hit a deer height wise. Left and right would have been ok, but another inch higher, and he might have spined him, another inch or 2 lower and lungs. Thats just a bad spot and angle. Pretty much just a flesh wound...

kwilson16 08-23-2009 03:25 AM

Cool video. He definitely looks nervous about the free food. Guess he was right!

crokit 08-23-2009 05:25 AM

The buck was clearly on edge. Just body language and tail posture says so. It's so far between his legs, it's tickling his " boys ".

Probably should have let him get a little farther away from the bait, errrrrrrrrrr, I mean feeder.:p





relax fellas.

SteveBNy 08-23-2009 05:28 AM

The hit was above the spine - thru the backstraps.
Very likely lived.

rh160kid 08-23-2009 06:39 AM

Amazing animal-although it is possible the deer was a little skittish around the feeder. I agree it looked to me that shot was 10 ring for sure until he dropped. I cant remember what video number it is(maybe 5 or 6) in the primos' truth series they show alot of deer jumping the string. They put a red line on the deers back and then slowmo the shot. amazing how much they can drop even at 20yds.

valor10 08-23-2009 06:46 AM

Something not right with that video. At regular speed, I can step frame by frame, but cannot see the frame where the deer drops, but see the frame just before, and after the hit. Both frames, the deer is upright. In slow motion, I can step through and see the deer drop, but the next frame after it drops; the deer is already out of the picture. In other words, the regular and slow motion don’t appear to match up?

Angle of the shot is poor, distance is unknown, and speed of the arrow is unknown. I think this video is exaggerated and altered to make a deer drop look more, well, exaggerated.

No disagreement deer drop. They do. But the speed of sound is 1,125fps, or less as the temperature dropps. So a bow shooting 250fps means at 20 yards the time between the sound reaching the deer and the arrow hitting the deer is .2 seconds, or 200 milliseconds. Your eyes blink at 300-400 milliseconds. I’m just saying.

bowmanaj 08-23-2009 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by BUCKMARK (Post 3416536)
I guess that is true. Never shot out of a blind before. I think my bow is loud, asked the wife to stand behind my once and she didn't hear a thing.


Exactly what I was gonna say.. I thought my my bow was a little loud but when I let my brother shoot it a couple times and stood back a little, I realized its not at all.


Cool video, that really is amazing how much he dropped on a short distance shot.

fingerz42 08-23-2009 09:04 AM

Hell who said deer dont drop? Its just nerves, they are dropping their weight and springing off their legs to get the hell out or there as fast as they can..

First off I would say that deers body language was nervous as any I've seen.. You could see he was tense and ready to bolt at any second.. Not surprised on the outcome there.. I wonder how far he was shooting from...

magicman54494 08-23-2009 11:19 AM

I held a pointer where the arrow hit then backed up the video. Looks dead center to me.
I used to do a lot of videoing years ago. We have some great slow mo shots of just how far a deer can drop. The cure is to aim low. If they don't move you are still going to make a good shot.

Schultzy 08-23-2009 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by fingerz42 (Post 3416827)
Hell who said deer don't drop? Its just nerves, they are dropping their weight and springing off their legs to get the hell out or there as fast as they can..

First off I would say that deers body language was nervous as any I've seen.. You could see he was tense and ready to bolt at any second.. Not surprised on the outcome there.. I wonder how far he was shooting from...

I 100% agree with everything you say fingerz!! Hell, I've saw them drop twice that much before. Like you said, that deer was damn nervous!

fingerz42 08-23-2009 04:32 PM

Am I sensing some sarcasm there? lol

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-23-2009 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by magicman54494 (Post 3416923)
I held a pointer where the arrow hit then backed up the video. Looks dead center to me.
I used to do a lot of videoing years ago. We have some great slow mo shots of just how far a deer can drop. The cure is to aim low. If they don't move you are still going to make a good shot.

Magic, I put my cursor where I would aim and he hit about 2" higher than that. He was still dead on for a quick kill had the deer not dropped so tremendously. He was pretty much a 12 ring but I would have put about 2" lower. Even still, it would have either sprined him OR the hit above the spine. Any way we slice it, the deer sure as hell reacted and LIVED. :biggrin:

TFOX 08-23-2009 05:19 PM

I made a comment about the bow being out of tune and it got deleted.I was even nice about it.:confused0024:

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-23-2009 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3417277)
I made a comment about the bow being out of tune and it got deleted.I was even nice about it.:confused0024:

T, I don't see where anything was deleted. ?

I quoted your first post on the out of tune bow. IT's on the first page that I see. Are you sure?

TFOX 08-23-2009 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rob/PA Bowyer (Post 3417281)
T, I don't see where anything was deleted. ?

I quoted your first post on the out of tune bow. IT's on the first page that I see. Are you sure?

I made the comment on youtube.The person that put up the video deleted it.

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-23-2009 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3417284)
I made the comment on youtube.The person that put up the video deleted it.

LOL, OH. I thought you meant here. LMAO. :biggrin:

Sensitive type he is huh? Try to help a guy out. :throw:
Probably a Mathews shooter. I keed I keed. :biggrin:

TFOX 08-23-2009 05:47 PM

ACTUALLY,he does.Direct from him.:s3:


No, I am shooting a Mathews and my wife shoots a Renegade. Both are very quiet, but when the camera is 18" from it they both sound like canons going off

sr77 08-23-2009 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3416562)
We can all learn from videos like this.This deer seems to be exibiting signs of nervousness(how he is eating) even though he hasn't been stopped or rattled in.

Shot from ground level would dictate a lower shot than from a stand.That point of aim would probably be a dead deer from a stand but from a blind,he lived.


I agree with you, he seemed nervous from the get go. Amazingly quick reflexes, with a deer showing that kind of behavior he should have aimed in very bottom third of chest. Funny story....... I had a buddy once a few years back (non hunter) claim he could react to the sound of a bow like a deer and atleast start moving before the arrow hit the target after watchin a video like this. So I took him outside and put him about 20 yds to the right of the target behind a group of tree trunks and told him as soon as he heard the shot to drop down. It was hilarious watching him throw himself to the ground:happy0157: time after time reacting to the sound of the arrow hitting the target and not the bow. Wild animals and there abilities amaze me.

Shane

cartman308 08-24-2009 01:43 AM

that bid dude was nervous as all get out! He jumped the string pain and simple! Truly amazing animals.

ya'll happen to read any of the comments? there are some absolute retards out there..............


Originally Posted by TFOX (Post 3417284)
I made the comment on youtube.The person that put up the video deleted it.

is this your quote?

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Really cool Vid!!! arrow kicks a little and looks a bit underspined, Might be able to get it there a bit quicker and get him next time with a tune!! really cool stuff though!!


it's still there. don't think the poster can delete the comments but could be wrong.

wis_bow_huntr 08-24-2009 03:26 AM

That buck was on guard the entire time he was there. He knew something was up. notice how he covered his "kill zone" with his front leg? He leaned into it. This is a natural instict for deer when they sense something isnt right. Pay attention the the next nervous deer you see from your stand. This thread could start something great on deer behavior and reaction. I may just have to start something. Great video, amazing animal.


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