Does the loop on your string effect draw length?
08-21-2009, 11:53 AM
#81
Giant Nontypical
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But in your example,the shooter becomes overdrawn.
08-21-2009, 12:03 PM
#82
Dominant Buck
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Then you'd think he'd have said that.....instead of making such a false, blanket statement.
Kills me the answer is SO evident to my questions.....(and SO simple to answer), yet they never get answered. that way
Have fun. This resembles mental masturbation....more than a discussion of facts.
Kills me the answer is SO evident to my questions.....(and SO simple to answer), yet they never get answered. that way
Have fun. This resembles mental masturbation....more than a discussion of facts.
08-21-2009, 12:06 PM
#83
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Then you'd think he'd have said that.....instead of making such a false, blanket statement.
Kills me the answer is SO evident to my questions.....(and SO simple to answer), yet they never get answered. that way
Have fun. This resembles mental masturbation....more than a discussion of facts.
Kills me the answer is SO evident to my questions.....(and SO simple to answer), yet they never get answered. that way
Have fun. This resembles mental masturbation....more than a discussion of facts.
08-21-2009, 12:17 PM
#85
Typical Buck
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My only problem I have is telling people that have never shot a bow or never shot with a loop that the loop will not affect the draw length of the bow.If they install a loop,there will have to be an adjustment to the bow,unless the bow was on the short side for them anyway.
So,I will continue to correct this for those people when they ask the question.Too many people end up overdrawn because of this advice.
So,I will continue to correct this for those people when they ask the question.Too many people end up overdrawn because of this advice.
08-21-2009, 12:19 PM
#86
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It is a matter of semantics.One will say the draw length increases by 1 1/2",another will say the BOWS draw length hasn't changed according to AMO standards.
Regardless,the shooter becomes overdrawn which is a draw length issue so draw length is affected by the loop.
I ask you,what happens if you go from not having a loop to shooting with a loop? Will the draw length of the bow need to be shortened to maintain proper form?
Anchors change,that is a given but what else?
Regardless,the shooter becomes overdrawn which is a draw length issue so draw length is affected by the loop.
I ask you,what happens if you go from not having a loop to shooting with a loop? Will the draw length of the bow need to be shortened to maintain proper form?
Anchors change,that is a given but what else?
08-21-2009, 12:20 PM
#87
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Well since you can't agree to disagree then I'll have to continue to present my option as well and they can choose between your long drawn out and complicated process and my simple just customize your loop because you have the correct draw length in the first place concept.
They have the correct draw length if they go from shooting without a loop to shooting with a loop and make no adjustments to the bow?
08-21-2009, 12:54 PM
#88
Typical Buck
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I have a 28" draw. When I draw a bow with a perfect 28" draw my head and vertebrae will be in perfect alignment every time. I won't have to lean back or forward. If I go to 27.5" I have to lean slightly into the string. If I have a 28.5" draw I have to lean or turn slightly back. Now at 28" if I add a 2" loop to my string in order to get my arm positioning and hand anchor correct I still have a 28" draw that hasn't changed my vertical body alignment. I don't however have a 30" draw. If that is what you are saying that is going to confuse people.
08-21-2009, 01:03 PM
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Sorry,this reply was to jb
Pulling out the Jeff reply,just answer the question.
Can you shoot your draw length with no loop and maintain proper form.Proper shoulder load,proper bone to bone contact AND alignment,proper release arm angle, alignment and proper bow arm positioning.
If you can then you are in the minority.
I HAVE to shoot 28 1/2" to 28 3/4" without a loop to be even close.I am at 28" with one.
Pulling out the Jeff reply,just answer the question.
Can you shoot your draw length with no loop and maintain proper form.Proper shoulder load,proper bone to bone contact AND alignment,proper release arm angle, alignment and proper bow arm positioning.
If you can then you are in the minority.
I HAVE to shoot 28 1/2" to 28 3/4" without a loop to be even close.I am at 28" with one.
Last edited by TFOX; 08-21-2009 at 01:05 PM.