Is my arrow really heavy?
04-02-2009, 09:01 PM
#61
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HENDERSON KY USA
Posts: 6,634
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
Even if an elk takes a step at 84 yards,he is still dead,he has a freaking kill zone the size of a satelite dish.An arrow will cover that distance in well under a second.
Deer move at 15 yards as much or more than an elk will at 80 if he is feeding and relaxed.
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
Deer move at 15 yards as much or more than an elk will at 80 if he is feeding and relaxed.
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
04-03-2009, 03:53 AM
#62
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,701
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
04-03-2009, 04:30 AM
#63
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 2,333
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
hmmmmmmmmmm
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
I'm sure that TFOX assumes that the average hunter has something resembling a normal amount of common sense and intelligence. We all know that there are a multitude of folks who seem to be lacking in those areas. Merriam-Webster defines "ethics" as:
1 - the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation.
2 -a set of moral principles: a theory or system of moral values.
3 - the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group.
4 -a guiding philosophy
5 -a consciousness of moral importance
"Ethics" arepersonalandextremely open to interpretation and debate (don't we know it
). Ifsomeone went out and bought your setup as indicated above and went out hunting, would it be ethical? I guess it's totally dependent uponthat particularindividuals moral convictions. I wouldn't agree with it,but it's not my place to judge someone else or attempt to force them to accept my personal beliefs and moral convictions as their own. If it's legal and they feel that is acceptable, then I wish them all the luck in the world.
04-03-2009, 04:39 AM
#64
Fork Horn
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Northwest PA
Posts: 250
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
hmmmmmmmmmm
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
04-03-2009, 05:52 AM
#65
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
Posts: 2,520
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Ha! I'm sure that TFOX assumes that the average hunter has something resembling a normal amount of common sense and intelligence. We all know that there are a multitude of folks who seem to be lacking in those areas.
Merriam-Webster defines "ethics" as:
1 - the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation.
2 -a set of moral principles: a theory or system of moral values.
3 - the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group.
4 -a guiding philosophy
5 -a consciousness of moral importance
"Ethics" arepersonalandextremely open to interpretation and debate (don't we know it). Ifsomeone went out and bought your setup as indicated above and went out hunting, would it be ethical? I guess it's totally dependent uponthat particularindividuals moral convictions. I wouldn't agree with it,but it's not my place to judge someone else or attempt to force them to accept my personal beliefs and moral convictions as their own. If it's legal and they feel that is acceptable, then I wish them all the luck in the world.
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
hmmmmmmmmmm
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
so if I go out and buya setup compound tonight from a pawn shop, an odd mix of arrows and old broadheads, don't practice shoot and go out tomorrow morning and shoot at/wound a couple of bigbucks you're fine with that, right ?
I mean, I'm legal in doing it, its my personal ethics, not yours - right ?
I'm sure that TFOX assumes that the average hunter has something resembling a normal amount of common sense and intelligence. We all know that there are a multitude of folks who seem to be lacking in those areas. Merriam-Webster defines "ethics" as:
1 - the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation.
2 -a set of moral principles: a theory or system of moral values.
3 - the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group.
4 -a guiding philosophy
5 -a consciousness of moral importance
"Ethics" arepersonalandextremely open to interpretation and debate (don't we know it
). Ifsomeone went out and bought your setup as indicated above and went out hunting, would it be ethical? I guess it's totally dependent uponthat particularindividuals moral convictions. I wouldn't agree with it,but it's not my place to judge someone else or attempt to force them to accept my personal beliefs and moral convictions as their own. If it's legal and they feel that is acceptable, then I wish them all the luck in the world.
04-03-2009, 06:59 AM
#66
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: TFOX
Even if an elk takes a step at 84 yards,he is still dead,he has a freaking kill zone the size of a satellite dish.An arrow will cover that distance in well under a second.
Deer move at 15 yards as much or more than an elk will at 80 if he is feeding and relaxed.
Even if an elk takes a step at 84 yards,he is still dead,he has a freaking kill zone the size of a satellite dish.An arrow will cover that distance in well under a second.
Deer move at 15 yards as much or more than an elk will at 80 if he is feeding and relaxed.
Everyone has THEIR ethics,stick to them and you will be an ethical hunter.
04-03-2009, 07:02 AM
#67
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,701
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
If your ethics aren't the "normal" you better be able to take some criticism from othersand if you can't,keepyour hunting ethicsto yourself.
Schultzysometimes I wonder who really hunts and who really doesn't reading these message board.
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04-03-2009, 07:25 AM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: stealthycat II
that's a good line actually .......
Schultzysometimes I wonder who really hunts and who really doesn't reading these message board.
seriously []
If your ethics aren't the "normal" you better be able to take some criticism from othersand if you can't,keepyour hunting ethicsto yourself.
Schultzysometimes I wonder who really hunts and who really doesn't reading these message board.
seriously [
]
04-03-2009, 07:39 AM
#69
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 21,043
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
BC:
Your scenario is played out every year by most every hunter. We all make our own, similar decisions.
What gets meare the ones who choose to shoot (given your scenarios) and end up successful. Many feel that the end result justifies their decision.
Me, I respect your decision a LOT more than I admire their successes.
Your scenario is played out every year by most every hunter. We all make our own, similar decisions.
What gets meare the ones who choose to shoot (given your scenarios) and end up successful. Many feel that the end result justifies their decision.
Me, I respect your decision a LOT more than I admire their successes.
04-03-2009, 07:44 AM
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
RE: Is my arrow really heavy?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
BC:
Your scenario is played out every year by most every hunter. We all make our own, similar decisions.
What gets meare the ones who choose to shoot (given your scenarios) and end up successful. Many feel that the end result justifies their decision.
Me, I respect your decision a LOT more than I admire their successes.
BC:
Your scenario is played out every year by most every hunter. We all make our own, similar decisions.
What gets meare the ones who choose to shoot (given your scenarios) and end up successful. Many feel that the end result justifies their decision.
Me, I respect your decision a LOT more than I admire their successes.
But one thing for sure, those incidenses kept me coming back for weeks every morning. Never saw eitheragain, guess they were passing thru.