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ABarOfSoap 03-02-2009 12:41 PM

Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
How would you feel if your state added (or already has) crossbows during bow season?

I for one like xbows, and wouldent mind them during regular season, but if they were added to the bow only season i would be very mad... Weather you use a trad or compound, i think xbows during bow season is just wrong. What do you think?

SteveBNy 03-02-2009 01:06 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
I think if a modern, scoped, compondwith 99% let off shooting 350 fps with a trigger release is allowed to be shot hidden in a pop up blind, then letting crossbows in is a given.

Steve

hatchet jack 03-02-2009 01:14 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
They just passed them here in PA to be used in the regular Archery season[:@] You could use them in the Special Regs area's for the last few years though [ with a scope] The new Regs in PA for Xbows say you CAN'T use a scope on the Xgun, LOL!!!!! open sites ONLY!!!!LOL!!!:D The PGC is one crazy Dude!!!


Hatchet Jack

Greg / MO 03-02-2009 01:33 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
Only people with verified disabilities should be allowed to use them; otherwise, they should be used along with all the other guns -- in gun season.

The only difference between a crossbow and any other single-shot gun is choice of caliber. You've got .44 Rem Mag, 30-06, .270 and "bolt".

virginiashadow 03-02-2009 01:47 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
Crossbows have been allowed during archery season for several years here in Virginia. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone chooses to use a crossbow to hunt.

MeanV2 03-02-2009 02:33 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
It really doesn't matter to me. I think many make a Big deal out of nothing.;)

Dan

MOhunter46 03-02-2009 03:05 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
It dosen't effect me if other people use crossbows, so i dont care.

SteveBNy 03-02-2009 03:07 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 

The only difference between a crossbow and any other single-shot gun is choice of caliber.
I would have to think use of gunpwder as a propellant would have to be considered a difference.
A catagory changing one!

Steve

SteveBNy 03-02-2009 04:09 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
From another website by permissiom of the poster.


Is a crossbow a bow?

In the majority of the world the answer would be yes, they are *archery equipment.*

Only in the United States do you get some bowhunters and bowhunting organizations that don't think that. Of course they are "protecting their own".

THE NAA - the OLDEST archery organization have recognized crossbows for about 60 years. The International Bowhunters Organization has had a crossbow division for several years AND growing every year. THE NFAA now recognizes crossbows at its VEGAS championships. Atlantic City had crossbow divisions for years, that shoot was recently acquired by the NFAA, but its crossbow division is several decades old.

The Archery Trade Association and its predecessor, the Archery Manufacturers Organization recognizes crossbows as archery equipment.

So does most retail dealers- almost every shop that sells archery equipment and guns have crossbows in the archery department, not the firearm counter. Go into Bass Pro or Cabela’s or Dicks and see where the crossbows are kept.

Every archery catalog I get from the retailers has crossbows in it. Bow and Arrow Magazine carries crossbow advertising.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and all state wildlife agencies, crossbows are archery equipment:

- Crossbows and accessories that attach to crossbows as well as crossbow arrows are defined in the Internal Revenue Code that pertains to the archery excise tax.

- The US Fish & Wildlife Service receives the archery excise tax funds - of which about 10% are from crossbows - from the IRS and allocates those dollars to the state wildlife agencies through the Pittman Robertson program.

- State wildlife agencies receive archery excise tax dollars in amounts determined by a formula that includes the number of licensed hunters (including all those who hunt with crossbows) and the area of the state.

Regardless of what we think, the government treats crossbows like archery equipment.

Now with compound bows - The International Olympic Committee doesn't recognize compounds as archery equipment. The PAN AMERICAN games don't recognize compounds as archery equipment. Neither does some of those ultra elitist traditional heads up the butt groups.

Why have crossbows been welcomed at NAA sanctioned shoots many years longer then the compound bow?

Several European countries don’t recognize any archery gear for any hunting purpose. Thanks to bowhunters in England that complained that the crossbows were “inhumane” After a government study they ended up banning all archery hunting as “inhumane”.

I don't think we want to head down that path..

A crossbow propels an arrow from the fastly forward moving string powered by a set of bent limbs. The trajectory of the arrow is VERY similar to that of an arrow launched by a compound bow. On the end of that arrow is the same broadhead that is used by any other hunting archer. That arrow kills that deer from lung collapse and blood loss.

Sounds like archery to me.


hunt91 03-02-2009 04:34 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
i belive that crossbows should be allowed for use during allbow and gunseasons by anyone. i dont care how anyone else harvests a deer be it with a bow, gun, or crossbow. i do belive that if a record book buck should be harvested however, there should be an * next to the hunters name indicateing that it was taken during archery season with a means other than a compound bow, long bow, or recurve.

niehenke 03-02-2009 04:54 PM

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I hunt in PA and I would like to propose a compromise. Get rid of the riffles and allow 3 weeks of x-bows. Problem solved. I use a riffle in PA and it just doesn't do it for me any more. I could give it up in a minute if someone changed it to an x-bow season.

Rob/PA Bowyer 03-02-2009 06:58 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 

ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

I think if a modern, scoped, compondwith 99% let off shooting 350 fps with a trigger release is allowed to be shot hidden in a pop up blind, then letting crossbows in is a given.

Steve
Who makes that?

hunting junkie 03-02-2009 07:29 PM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
They have it here in indiana in the late season archery. I like that but really would not care if it was the whole season

craitchky 03-03-2009 03:53 AM

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It really would not matter to me, they are archery equipment. And other than having 100% letoff and being easier to aim, they do not offer any real advantage over trad or compound bows. They are louder, heavier, bulkier, and do not have the range that modern componds have. I say let them in.

SteveBNy 03-04-2009 03:37 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

I think if a modern, scoped, compondwith 99% let off shooting 350 fps with a trigger release is allowed to be shot hidden in a pop up blind, then letting crossbows in is a given.

Steve
Who makes that?
Concept archery for one - meets everything but the 350fps. But they are at 318 IBO.Several others as well.
Monster bows up to 92%. Firebrand was 99%.
The technology is there and being used.


Steve

vmartin 03-04-2009 05:03 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
i don't believe a crossbow should ever be allowed in a bow season except for handicap people. it is just like a gun. i know in kansas after talking to the legislators in charge here that that will never happen. for anyone interested, they also said that the rifle season will never be pushed any closer to the rut than it is right now, kansas will be a bow state for a long time to come.

SteveBNy 03-04-2009 05:06 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 

it is just like a gun.
What crossbow uses gun powder as a propellant?

Steve

hardcorehunter 03-04-2009 05:31 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
Crossbows don't bother me. It takes a special breed to be a bow hunter anyway and most hunters won't have what it takes to be a successful bow hunter, so I don't see allowing a few guys to run around with a crossbow affecting us "purists, hardcore bowhunters".

hardcorehunter 03-04-2009 05:47 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer


ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

I think if a modern, scoped, compondwith 99% let off shooting 350 fps with a trigger release is allowed to be shot hidden in a pop up blind, then letting crossbows in is a given.

Steve
Who makes that?
lol..yea...never heard of a bow like that.

SteveBNy 03-04-2009 06:00 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
Again:

Concept archery for one - meets everything but the 350fps. But they are at 318 IBO.Several others as well.
Monster bows up to 92%. Firebrand was 99%.
The technology is there and being used.

ABarOfSoap 03-04-2009 11:02 AM

RE: Crossbows aloud during bow season poll
 
WOW so far this poll is an exact tie 50% to 50% lol...
The main reason i think xbows are unfair to bow hunters is becausethey dont have to stand up, and draw there bow back, just because it doesnt go boom and have gun powder, the only real difference between the 2 is, crossbows cant shoot 150+ yards like a gun can.


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