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What would you rather have in a bow?
I guess Ill call this part 2 of my "head to head" challenge/decision of a DXT or AlphaMax 32. Many have helped me not too long ago trying to decide between these two, but still have no made the choice. From what I felt, the DXT had absolutely no hand shock, while the AM32 had very little. But the AM32 felt a little better/solid when fully drawn back. I figure with a stabalizer, that little hand shock would disappear.
My question to you is, what would you rather have in a bow, the benefit of having no hand shock, or little hand shock and a very nice, solid "feel" at full draw? I appreciate any input on this considering $1200 (potentially) is a lot of money to spend. Thanks guys. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Hand shock is an after effect that has no effect on the shot itself while having a solid/ comfortable for you feel at the wall may have a very dramatic effect on how you execute the shot. Go for the one that feels best during the shot execution not after it!
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Seems like you have it narrowed down real good. I guess it would really be about what you want in a bow. They both sound good.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
SOLID wall, absolute solid wall!
Quiet, noise free Smooth, semi smooth draw. hand shock, somewhat irrelevant but that comes in the way of noise. Speed, not necessary but if you get speed with all the above, bonus. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I will be shooting them one more time before I choose, but that is whats gonna really be the tie breaker right there. Keep in mind, this is what I thought of the two bows, one might think different.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer SOLID wall, absolute solid wall! Quiet, noise free Smooth, semi smooth draw. hand shock, somewhat irrelevant but that comes in the way of noise. Speed, not necessary but if you get speed with all the above, bonus. Good luck with your choice, you can't loose with either decision between those two, thats for sure. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I know nothing of the Alpha, but I have shot a DXT and it was awesome. I like a lighter bow, Hoyts have always been sort of heavy to me, but that's why they last and are so durable...the dxt should have a very smooth draw and no vibration...but in the end, how much of any of that are you going to actually notice when you shoot a deer?? go with the bow that you shoot the best...which one is more accurate and allows you to have more room for shooter error.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Well if a solid wall is the #1 rating, I would give the AM32 the nod, cuz when I was at full draw, there was absolutely NO movement. From what I remember, with the AM32, I felt at full draw as if I could aim and shoot more accurately. The problem is, with bow of those bows, they werent set to my draw length or anything, so it was kinda just pull back and hit the target and go from there.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Ive shot both, loved both. The DXT is one of my favorite mathews and i almost bought one when they first came out but BT's General shocked me and i bought it, but anyways... thats another story all together.
I would rather have a better feeling/balancing, more forgiving bow hands down. Hand shock is just a feeling. It is no measure of performance. Ever shot a tuned pro elite??? They have handshock and they are oneof the best target bows ever period... derek |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher Hand shock is an after effect that has no effect on the shot itself while having a solid/ comfortable for you feel at the wall may have a very dramatic effect on how you execute the shot. Go for the one that feels best during the shot execution not after it! |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer SOLID wall, absolute solid wall! Quiet, noise free Smooth, semi smooth draw. hand shock, somewhat irrelevant but that comes in the way of noise. Speed, not necessary but if you get speed with all the above, bonus. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: kdsberman Well if a solid wall is the #1 rating, I would give the AM32 the nod, cuz when I was at full draw, there was absolutely NO movement. From what I remember, with the AM32, I felt at full draw as if I could aim and shoot more accurately. The problem is, with bow of those bows, they werent set to my draw length or anything, so it was kinda just pull back and hit the target and go from there. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I prefer zero shock which ultimately leads to better accuracy,....theoretically anyways.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard I prefer zero shock which ultimately leads to better accuracy,....theoretically anyways. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Why is this thing double posting?
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard I prefer zero shock which ultimately leads to better accuracy,....theoretically anyways. Rob does bring up a good point though and that is that although accuracy is not compromised, with heavy recoil there also comes more noise. In this case though we're not talking about heavy recoil, we're just talking about slightly more perceived recoil from one than another. You sound like you know what you have felt, now make the decision after you go shoot the piss outta them some more. Shoot them until you know which one you like better. I had to shoot the AM35 and the BT Captain about 40times a piece before i could decide. If a shop wont let you do that, then go to a different one;) How off were the draws of the bows? From what ive felt after shooting the DXT numerous times and owning an AM, the DXT had more shock to me. Maybe its just me[&:] Either way, just pick the one you honestly like better. Not which one people here or anywhere else prefer. You will be happier in the long run. Derek |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I expect and want it all!:D
Dan |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
It sounds like you have already made your decision. If you look at your question, there is one pro to the first and two to the second.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I like a smooth draw w/ very little hand shock vs a speed demon. That is why I love my Mathews Switchback XT... All of my friend's bows are faster, but i love the smoothness and forgiveness of my XT... Esp for hunting...
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard I prefer zero shock which ultimately leads to better accuracy,....theoretically anyways. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard See I don't agree. You are FEELING shock AFTER your arrow is gone, but that shock actually occurs upon release, what do you think causes any noise at all? it's the vibration. You are talking about anticipating the noise from the shot. Noise is caused by vibration. Vibration causes loss in accuracy. I thought that was pretty commonly known. If hand shock caused poor accuracy no compound shooter would have ever killed a deer 15 years ago and no longbow shooter would ever hit the broad side of a barn much less an aspirin tossed into the air. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
I put absolutely no stock in the handshock of a bow.All bows today have very little handshock.
I can usually tell if I like a bow as soon as I pull it back,I DO NOT need to shoot it.The way the wall feels and the way the bow holds and balances at full draw are all that matter to me out of a hunting bow.How quiet the bow is is important for hunting but most all top end bows are quiet as well. In a target bow,I actually prefer a little forward lunge. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Well I have little to offer because I have not shot either bow or one with a heavy vibration. I will ask that what is important to you is different than the others reporting back to you. For example, I just love to shoot and I am not sure if I want to hold a vibrater in my hands while I'm out at the range with the fellows. To me, I want speed and accuracy. What is important to you? When you have that answer, you will find your bow. Good luck and enjoy shopping. Kodiak, you sound like an engineer. What's to engineer in AK? Pretty ignorant on the the state but i know that I would love to head up there for a vacation.
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard I prefer zero shock which ultimately leads to better accuracy,....theoretically anyways. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Personally, I would not by either one of the two bows that you mentioned. I would wait if I were you and pick up a new Bowtech.
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Gotta Love Off season!![8D]
Dan |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Its always the off season for me[:-]
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
To be fair i think you would have to shoot both hat are tuned and set to the proper draw length to experience the proper feel . Are there other aspects of the bows as well
like weight , length , brace height, or other features to help determine which one ? |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
$1200, and you have to choose which bad shooting qualities you have to live with? Man, Glad I'm a trad shooter!
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ive shot both and i would pick the hoyt
dont get me wrong, mathews are great bows but, when im hunting with one i feel as ifs a fragile antique and any bump will snap it in half with my hoyt, it just feels like i could jump on it and nothing would happen, and with a big buck i dont want to leave anything to chance |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Simple Mathews Dxt,
ORIGINAL: kdsberman I guess Ill call this part 2 of my "head to head" challenge/decision of a DXT or AlphaMax 32. Many have helped me not too long ago trying to decide between these two, but still have no made the choice. From what I felt, the DXT had absolutely no hand shock, while the AM32 had very little. But the AM32 felt a little better/solid when fully drawn back. I figure with a stabalizer, that little hand shock would disappear. My question to you is, what would you rather have in a bow, the benefit of having no hand shock, or little hand shock and a very nice, solid "feel" at full draw? I appreciate any input on this considering $1200 (potentially) is a lot of money to spend. Thanks guys. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: Dozen Arrows Personally, I would not by either one of the two bows that you mentioned. I would wait if I were you and pick up a new Bowtech. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
If you can't decide,just wait,save,buy them both
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
Actually went and shot them again today (including the BT Admiral, which I didnt like), and hated to do it but eliminated the AM32 and entered in the Reezen. The AM32 seemed to go with the smallest amount of creeping which I didnt like. A lot of people say the Reezen has too much vibration, but coming from a 6 year old PSE Firestorm, every bow these days feels shock free to me. I thought the Reezen shot very well, pretty darn close to the DXT, and they only wanted $20 more than the DXT! Im deciding between the DXT and Reezen now. Man this is tough!
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RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard See I don't agree. You are FEELING shock AFTER your arrow is gone, but that shock actually occurs upon release, what do you think causes any noise at all? it's the vibration. You are talking about anticipating the noise from the shot. Noise is caused by vibration. Vibration causes loss in accuracy. I thought that was pretty commonly known. If hand shock caused poor accuracy no compound shooter would have ever killed a deer 15 years ago and no longbow shooter would ever hit the broad side of a barn much less an aspirin tossed into the air. |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard See I don't agree. You are FEELING shock AFTER your arrow is gone, but that shock actually occurs upon release, what do you think causes any noise at all? it's the vibration. You are talking about anticipating the noise from the shot. Noise is caused by vibration. Vibration causes loss in accuracy. I thought that was pretty commonly known. If hand shock caused poor accuracy no compound shooter would have ever killed a deer 15 years ago and no longbow shooter would ever hit the broad side of a barn much less an aspirin tossed into the air. Dont feel bad for eliminating the AM, if you liked the mathews better, then you should buy a mathews. Between the reezen and the dxt, i would have to go with the DXT for hunting only, and the reezen for a dual purpose fun bow. Teh dxt's advantages are greater for hunting. Smoooooooth draw and short ATA with plenty of speed. Its one helluva bow imo. When i shot the reezen i felt alot of imperfections, but at the same time, i seemed to shoot it pretty well, and it pushed the arrows good. Good luck derek |
RE: What would you rather have in a bow?
ORIGINAL: drockw ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher ORIGINAL: bowtech die hard See I don't agree. You are FEELING shock AFTER your arrow is gone, but that shock actually occurs upon release, what do you think causes any noise at all? it's the vibration. You are talking about anticipating the noise from the shot. Noise is caused by vibration. Vibration causes loss in accuracy. I thought that was pretty commonly known. If hand shock caused poor accuracy no compound shooter would have ever killed a deer 15 years ago and no longbow shooter would ever hit the broad side of a barn much less an aspirin tossed into the air. Dont feel bad for eliminating the AM, if you liked the mathews better, then you should buy a mathews. Between the reezen and the dxt, i would have to go with the DXT for hunting only, and the reezen for a dual purpose fun bow. Teh dxt's advantages are greater for hunting. Smoooooooth draw and short ATA with plenty of speed. Its one helluva bow imo. When i shot the reezen i felt alot of imperfections, but at the same time, i seemed to shoot it pretty well, and it pushed the arrows good. Good luck derek |
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