hardcorehunter

Oh BTW PreacherTony...you can have your hijacked thread back... I have a big day tomorrow and have to get some shut eye. Busy week and only 2 more hunting days to get that last doe tag filled with the new 82nd. Nite all

TFOX

I would use your own tapes on those.Those tapes are not going to figure in all parameters of YOUR setup.On second thought,get some really good marks at say 20 and 50 and use one of those tapes that lines up with your marks to see what happens at odd yardages.

I use Archers Advantage for my sight tapes on target rigs and have even used them in the past to set pin gap for hunting sights.

I would bet you are using the pin but more instinctively than as a pin point aiming system and there is nothing wrong with that.It gets the job done for many archers and many don't really understand the physics behind what is happening.Hell,I have been studying this stuff for years and still get into areas that confuse me from time to time.

hardcorehunter

Thanks for your explanations...u r a bright guy.

MeanV2

The yardage tapes with the HHA are computer generated, and work great. I've used them on several different speed setups.

But I can tell you if your bow shootsthe trajectoryyou had claimed (which is impossible) there won't be a tape for you[8D]

Dan

TFOX

Not that bright,just have studied this for a while,that's all.

Sorry preach,I didn't mean to participate in the hijack,just kinda happened.

Back to the regularly scheduled thread.[8D]

hardcorehunter

They should make them for all of the yin yangs that shoot like me on AT. [8D] I still say it is the string suppressor

hardcorehunter

He doesn't care actually...he is like GMMAT..doesn't care what is posted as long as his thread goes 10 pages.

bloodcrick

Im not changing a thing. Im shooting a total of 352 grains and have had great results with it (pass throughs) except on bull frogs they stick in the mud before going all the way through

OHbowhntr

Don,
I think you really need to look at a trajectory table to see what most of the guys are trying to tell you here. In all honesty, if you really wanted to get the best use out of ONE PIN, you'd be better off to set it up for 28yds or so, and know how it shot at various distances, including out to 40 if that was your fancy. But as was said earlier, even with the FASTEST set-up on the market, you are still going to have considerable drop between 28 and 40yds. If you find you're not having that, then it's very likely a FORM issue that's resulting in arrows flying differently than physiologically possible. Some of those guys on AT are FOS, and I posted the same on the sight, along with a link to a ballistics calculator that they could try if they wanted to see what a physiologically their arrows "SHOULD" be flying like. http://home.att.net/%7Esajackson/ballistics.html This link is assuming the arrow is shot from FLAT ground, at 0* trajectory, so it only takes into affect pure drop, not adding in sight paralax, and ARC, but you can half the number, and they are pretty accurate with what you could expect, considering in archery, we compensate for the first half of that drop when we aim for our target, the other half is in the arrow "dropping" down into our target after it "peaks." I know you got pretty frustrated with this, but in all honesty, unless you have some oddity in form, your bow should NOT be shooting the way you're saying it does.

Get to the Uphill/Downhill thing, and we've got a whole different story all together. If you look closely at the article TFox posted, it tells you that the arrow speeds change when shooting UP and DOWN hill inversely, which is consistent with the results I get when shooting UP and DOWN hill. If I have a 32yd shot up a 10* angle, I'm holding for 34, the inverse of this same shot, I'm shooting for 30, because at soft angles, the trajectory change is not identical in my experience. Some will say this is a form issue as well, but I believe it's more likely a result of the arrow loosing speed on that attempt to gain altitude, while it's working WITH gravity loosing altitude.

I have dead animals to speak for my results as well. A doe that reminded me not to shoot at ALERT animals, because they MOVE, and sometimes A LOT!!!! A BB that got spine punched and his lungs deflated from 38yds (line of sight) while I was about nearly 45ft above him. (see Mercy Killing thread http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=3198418&mpage=1 ) Shot was just a touch higher than I'd have liked, but I aimed a couple inches lower than the POI, the deer was quarter-to, laying in a bed, and the shot went through the spine on a diagonal, through 2 vertebrae, and punched lungs. Punching numbers, I held for about 36, but the horizontal distance was closer to 34, makes sense that I hit a couple inches high. At the time, I was fenaggling the position to get the shot anyhow, if you look at the thread, you can see a small shot window I shot the deer through.

PreacherTony

It doesn't matter to me because the stuff being posted is INTERESTING and, believe it or not, useful ..... it has nothing to do with thread length ...don't be a hater, Don [:-]