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Question. What has changed from the, say, 2006 model to the 2008?

LT

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The seat!

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Seriously Ed? Not being sarcastic either. Just thought maybe there was more changes made.

I just picked one up with 2008 seat for $263 on AT (Shipped)

LT

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new ones come with a sit strap for climbing. For what it is worth, I ran an ad on AT that I wanted to trade my DB blind BS5 for a LW handclimber. The hand climber guys wouldn't part with their stands, but guys were really wanting to trade their sit and climb lw's to me. I wouldn't bite. Hand climber or nothin 4 me. I want compact and I aint draggin that big seat out with me.Also guys are running ads on thre always wanting the hand climber upper as they want to ditch the big seat. Something to think about.

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LT, check out the cams. Are they hard to open and close? An '06 model should be fine. I bought an older but barely used LW sitnclimb(04 model) and promptly ordered new cams......lots easier to open. You got a good buy on an '06 model with the '08 seat:).

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I just got a sit and climb this fall and absolutely love the thing. Of course, I'm coming from years in a Summit. The new seat is not too shabby really. It's not as comfy as the summits, but I'm hunting, not watching the ball game on the laz e boy.

I've been thinking about picking up the hand climber top section to see if I like it. I'm just concerned that it might not be comfortable enough for an all day sit.

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I think the only difference is the straps that connect the seat portion to the platform, and the seat. As others have said in the past the new seat is better (more comfy) but the killer combo is the LW platform with the Summit seat. At least this is what I heard. A friend of mine agreed with this as well.

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There is no "sit strap" that I know of. There's a sit "bar" that I don't use to climb (I climb as if I'm in a hand climber). I woudn't trad emy sit and climb for your blind, Don.....lol. Add me to THAT list. It's funny you'll haul a DB blind, a heater, a seat, etc... but you're worried about 2-3#'s of stand? Not making fun....just pointing out an obvious.

I climb nearly 100% of the time (over 80 times, this season alone). After seeing Matt's hand climber....I knew I made the right choice .....knowing I was going to be sitting in it a BUNCH!

muzzyman's review is very similar with mine.

LT...the seat was changed this past season, I believe. I've been in mine a LOT....and there are ways to make your sit more comfortable (without altering your stand). There's also a mesh seat available online, somewhere.

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Alright ive got a question, in some of the pictures i have seen of it, it look like when theclimbing bar is folded underneath the seat, it looks like your legs would be sitting right on top of it when you sit downand it looks like it could be uncomfortable as heck. Is there any truth to this?

Wayne

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That was you. It's more or less at times.

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Wayne....two answers:

1. I'm 6'1"/190-ish.....and it's not an issue fro me....even when the seat is adjusted all the way "down". I have mine set in a little more of an "up" position. I've found it's esier to get to my feet when theres more room between the platform and upper and the seat's in more of an "up" position.

2. I also hunt with my rail out in front of me a LOT. It's been an "issue" on only one shot attempt....and that one worked out just fine. Istill like the added (if only perceived) security of knowing the rail's there.....and I leave it there on quite a few hunts.

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Ok just so i get this straight, your saying the rail(when its up)does NOT get in the way when your shooting?

Wayne

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GMMAT, you mentioned the mesh seat. I've been looking at those and will probably buy one and give it a shot. Its basically put together like a hammock and should be real comfy.

I've always had an issue with the seats that were a little too stiff to be pushed back against the tree easily if your standing. My summit was a bear and the LW isa little easier, though not ideal.

I see a few advantages to the hammock styles. One, you can push it back against the tree very easily. Two, they should be quite comfortable for extended sits, three, if you leave it in the woods, it won't soak up water should it rain overnight, four, it is less bulky than the foam style seats and should also save a smidge of weight, and lastly, with the little material that is used, it shouldn't be a scent absorber like foam.

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Again...pardon me....but I'll give two answers:

1. "UP" being in front of you.....it's been an issue on ONE shot op.....my last buck taken. The shot angle was very steep....and I went to vocally stop the buck to take the shot. Right before I could verbalize....the bottom cam "ticked" the rail. He stopped. I shot. Game over. It worked out "OK"....but there may be the day when it costs me. Just hasn't ever, yet.

2. You can fold the bar up (all the way up) when you're standing. This will allow you to stand closer to the tree than when the bar is in the full down position. Try it for yourself. In the down position....it'll clip your legs. In the up position...it's closer to the tree.

i hope this makes sense.

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Excuse me, I meant the handclimber has the sit strap new as a feature. I have used the sit and climb and I have used the hand climber. I prefer the handclimber and the seat is very comfortable. I also feel the seat is very comfortable on the Alpha hangon and have no issue sitting in a tree from dawn to dusk in it. As long as I have back support with a tree to lean against, my butt is iron. I had a summit viper with the comfy seat and all. Those types of seats just aren't as manuverable to shoot out of as the hand climber seat that is open with no rail and no sunk in seat, and definately not as compact. I will only use a climber in public land in SE MN that I hunt, due to the severe elevation. I do know this, ask the AT guys which one they want, and they will agree with me. You can't find a used hand climber over there in the classifieds very often, but guys are always selling the sit and climb. LW sells the hand climber upper as an option as guys want to upgrade to the upper hand climber. If you see a upper over there on AT in the classifies, it is snagged up pretty quick. This pic that LW has doesn't show the new sit strap that comes on the hand climber. Their website shows it in the pic, but when I copied it, it lost the strap??

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Yep makes perfect sense, thanks Jeff.

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I've got my seat (sit and climb) adjusted to where it's almost "level". MUCH easier to get to a standing position (or shoot from a sitting position.....though I've never had to do that)from that adjustment. I don't like sitting "in" the seat very much, either.

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Great...........thanx hardcorehunter.....you just cost me another 100 bucks. I'm going to buy the handclimber top. :D

Like you, I have an iron plate in my butt and can sit an awful long time. I remember back in the good ol' days of my Loggy Bayou I used to have. I would just hug the tree and up I'd go. I loved that unyielding manueverability I had with that stand. The seat just wasn't made to sit all day in, though I did quite a bit and needed a crane to get out of it at night.:D

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I already have been bombarded with AT guys PMing me wanting to trade their sit and climbs for my blind..why would I want yours? It's either that or sit on the couch. It gets cold where I hunt, NC doesn't see the cold we get. 3 lbs of added weight that doesn't benefit me and makes for a less manuverable treestand is the obvious I am pointing out;)

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The bar is only an issue if you leave itup to high. One of the deer I took this year came in so fast and close I almost lost the deer cause I didnt have the rail low enough. When I went to aim my string was pushing on the rail, so I pushed it down some w/ the bow, then slid slightly forward on the seat to clear the rail, that made a sligh noise. the deer stopped. Double lung/heart shot and the deer piled up after 60 yrds.

I now make sure its not an issue by keeping the rail low enough, I also usually like to stand to shoot.

My dad has an 2006 model, and I have a 2008 model, and only difference is the seat. Mine is much more comfortable! I've found that if you keep the seat at aslight upwardangle and keep it close enough to the base that your legs are higher itsmuch more comfy, like jeff said, just play around w/ it, I've sat most of the dayin it.

I also have the wolf pack so that provides nice padding when I stand, so I can sit for 2 hrs then stand for an hour, and never get fatigued from one position...

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Inever siad you did.;) I said it would be a futile endeavor, though (in not so many words).

Whether or not it gets "cold" here isn't up for interpretation. I consider iamyour huck (CO Native) a good barometer of what "cold" is.....and he froze his nuts off, here in our temps.....lol.

Treestand capabilites (and they're accompanying trade-offs) are why they make several versions of the mouse trap. I'm comfortable with why I chose mine.....as you are. Nobody's "wrong".;)