P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
12-12-2008, 03:42 PM
#61
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 9,445
RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
Doesn't the hunter decide how they want it scored? As a typical or Non-typical?
12-12-2008, 05:30 PM
#62
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Posts: 307
RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
The system is what it is...whether it is fair or not is not for me to decide. I like it because every deer is scored on the same playing field. Franks deer is as unique as any EVER killed. You could never put a system in place to reward that deer as equally as most others.
12-12-2008, 06:10 PM
#63
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Heaven IA USA
Posts: 2,597
RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
Whitetail minimums are (net) typical 125; Nontypical 155.
The first P&Y that I ever killed scored a gross of 146 4/8 but only netted 126 4/8. Still I don't have a problem with the scoring system per say. However,if I have to pay the $25.00 recording fee, I wish they would list both scores in the book instead of net only.
As has been mentioned "it is what it is". If you want to be a member of any club, you have to play by their rules or go elsewhere. It is always disappointing to get "bumped out" by the "letter of the law" so to speak, but on the other hand that is what makes it the "standard" that it is.
With all of the "QDM" trends going on I can't wait to hear the crying when the minimums get bumped up, which could happen someday.
The first P&Y that I ever killed scored a gross of 146 4/8 but only netted 126 4/8. Still I don't have a problem with the scoring system per say. However,if I have to pay the $25.00 recording fee, I wish they would list both scores in the book instead of net only.
As has been mentioned "it is what it is". If you want to be a member of any club, you have to play by their rules or go elsewhere. It is always disappointing to get "bumped out" by the "letter of the law" so to speak, but on the other hand that is what makes it the "standard" that it is.
With all of the "QDM" trends going on I can't wait to hear the crying when the minimums get bumped up, which could happen someday.
12-15-2008, 08:37 AM
#66
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The OH-IO
Posts: 7,103
RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
ORIGINAL: MC Bowhunter
I believe the rack must have at least 25" of non typical point before it can be entered in the non typical category. I may be wrong though.
Darrall
I believe the rack must have at least 25" of non typical point before it can be entered in the non typical category. I may be wrong though.
Darrall
However, most measurers use afigure of 10%+ non-typical growthas a rule of thumb for suggesting what category for one to enter their animal.
12-15-2008, 11:29 AM
#69
Dominant Buck
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
MC...I'm not doubting they do a lot for sportsmen.......but I look at it the same way I do any donations. I used to give to the United Way campaigns.....until I found out several years ago that the man heading up the org. owned 27 vehicles and NINE homes.
Kinda sucked the life out of my view of "giving" and sounded a LOT like someone was doing a lot of living high on the hog with my $$.
Open up the books.....ALL of them.....and I'd consider donating to the P&Y. Show me where ALL the money goes.
Now I'm not insinuating they do anything wrong with the $$. I'd just like to rest assured they weren't. Only way I know to do this is to open 'em up (the books) and supply each and every member with a detailed accounting of all the $$. If I'm paying for the directors to go to Alaska to hunt and hold a conference.....show me that (and how much it is). Let me decide.
Kinda sucked the life out of my view of "giving" and sounded a LOT like someone was doing a lot of living high on the hog with my $$.
Open up the books.....ALL of them.....and I'd consider donating to the P&Y. Show me where ALL the money goes.
Now I'm not insinuating they do anything wrong with the $$. I'd just like to rest assured they weren't. Only way I know to do this is to open 'em up (the books) and supply each and every member with a detailed accounting of all the $$. If I'm paying for the directors to go to Alaska to hunt and hold a conference.....show me that (and how much it is). Let me decide.
12-15-2008, 12:00 PM
#70
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,288
RE: P&Y Scoring...WHY is it the way it is?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
MC...I'm not doubting they do a lot for sportsmen.......but I look at it the same way I do any donations. I used to give to the United Way campaigns.....until I found out several years ago that the man heading up the org. owned 27 vehicles and NINE homes.
Kinda sucked the life out of my view of "giving" and sounded a LOT like someone was doing a lot of living high on the hog with my $$.
Open up the books.....ALL of them.....and I'd consider donating to the P&Y. Show me where ALL the money goes.
Now I'm not insinuating they do anything wrong with the $$. I'd just like to rest assured they weren't. Only way I know to do this is to open 'em up (the books) and supply each and every member with a detailed accounting of all the $$. If I'm paying for the directors to go to Alaska to hunt and hold a conference.....show me that (and how much it is). Let me decide.
MC...I'm not doubting they do a lot for sportsmen.......but I look at it the same way I do any donations. I used to give to the United Way campaigns.....until I found out several years ago that the man heading up the org. owned 27 vehicles and NINE homes.
Kinda sucked the life out of my view of "giving" and sounded a LOT like someone was doing a lot of living high on the hog with my $$.
Open up the books.....ALL of them.....and I'd consider donating to the P&Y. Show me where ALL the money goes.
Now I'm not insinuating they do anything wrong with the $$. I'd just like to rest assured they weren't. Only way I know to do this is to open 'em up (the books) and supply each and every member with a detailed accounting of all the $$. If I'm paying for the directors to go to Alaska to hunt and hold a conference.....show me that (and how much it is). Let me decide.